The 2nd Amendment (USA), the right to own guns

So how many Krauts did you pop, Franek?

Cherries or heads? ;)

I'm not interested in how many German women Franek took advantage of with his ration cards.. although it would make for a hell of a story.

Let me elaborate.. how many bullets found their mark brother Franek?

He posted a website where he talked about his WWII days Filios, maybe check that out. That's the kind of vet I praise. HE fought for our freedom. Vietnam, well, that just didn't need to happen. There were sinister ulterior motives behind that war.

To those of you that do not doubt my word. Again I suggest that you go into WW2 talk..I have a whole collection of stories in there that are verified by other vets that were there with me.

There are a lot of pictures, and stories.

Filios; As for your question. This is not the place to answer this question. Check out the link that I gave you. I gave a couple of my experiences to others that were there.. You will see that they were in the same campaign, and you will see how our stories correspond to mine.

To gain entry, type in Franek Password gigirose that will get you in. Be prepared to spend some time.. It is very informative

Where is this link?

Fillios, I was just in there and picked one campaign out. I copied it. I was going to send it to you, but you have no E mail in your profile..

This is a hard site to navigate, but it is worth iti f you liker war stories.. Most of them are brits. I am one of the few living Americans left.

If you enjoy this kind of stuff. Give me an address by PM. I will go in and copy it for you.

Again go into google.. Type in WW2 Talk My name is franek
password is gigirose.. I will guide you through as it is lenghty
Type in the Battle of the Bulge by Franek

OK, let's start from here. If you were in the 99th Infantry Division, as you stated, you would have arrived in England on 10 October 1944, four months after D-Day.

If you were in the 29th Division before being attached to the 99th Division (by the way, not standard operating procedures of the US Army), then you would have been assigned the task of taking Omaha Beach, not Utah Beach as you have stated. The 4th Infantry Division was assigned the task of taking Utah Beach.

You stated you were wounded at Remagen in November 1944. The 9th Armored Division took the bridge at Remagen in early March 1945. The 99th Division only passed through Remagen in later March 1945, after the battle, and not while under fire. You said you were shot in the leg there and captured.

What Corps was your Division attached to? Within your division, what Brigade, Battalion, Company, Platoon, and Squad were you attached to?

The stories in WW2 Talk don't prove anything.

Franek Dolas was the name of the ficticious Polish soldier in Jak Rozpetalem II Wojne Swiatowa (How I Unleashed WWII). Sounds like a bit of an inside joke to me.

There is a franek182 who is an avid Warcraft III player who I quote as saying "poprosze o seeda gra bardzo mi potrzebna" (asking for a seed in the game). Don't know any vets who play Warcraft. There is also a franek182 on ajo.pl who is listed as being 19 years old.

Personally, I would find it very offensive if you were impersonating a veteran.

Oh you are such a fool. Allow me to prove you wrong on many occasions.
The 29th division was a Md Va and Pa national guard unit stationed at Ft Mead Md. Thats no #1
Number #2
The 29th landed on Omaha beach in the swecond wave.. For some reason I landed on Utah beach.
I am going to go in google to get the exact date that they arrived in England

This is off of google.. Chech it out you fool.

On 2 March, 1945, the division took the offensive, moving toward Keln and crossing the Erft Canal near Glesch. After clearing towns west of the Rhine, it crossed the river at Remagen on the 11th and continued to Linz and

From Beachhead to Brittany: The 29th Infantry Division at Brest is the long-awaited sequel to Beyond the Beachhead: The 29th Infantry Division in Normandy. After a brutal hedgerow campaign, the Allies broke out of Normandy and raced east toward Paris. But the top brass had other plans for the battle-hardened 29th Division, which had landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day and fought fiercely for every foot of ground in Normandy. The 29th must now turn west and seize the vital port of Brest, at the far western corner of Brittany. The troops expected the effort to take a week. It would instead last almost four.

The 99th US Infantry Division “Battle Babies” Reorganized as the 99th Infantry Division in April 1942, the division went ... to become the first infantry division to cross the famed Bridge at Remagen. ...

I could prove you wrong on every other doubt.. Buy why? What the hell do I owe you. SHAG OFF.

As your source material by Joseph Balkoski said, the 29th was at Omaha, not Utah.

In the other forum, you said that the time it took to get you trained as a radio man saved you from the invasion. So which one is it: were you the only man in the 29th division who landed at Utah? Or were you able to avoid the invasion because you were still in training?

In the other forum, you also said you were assigned into the 99th divison as a PFC out of training. So, you went then from the 99th, to the 29th, and then back again to the 99th?

I actually feel kind of bad now for raising all these inconsistencies, as you are a long time member here, and obviously a large contributor to the PF community. But I just don't think it's very nice to impersonate a vet.


This settles it. Very British English. An American GI would never tell someone to shag off.

It's time to come clean, my real name is John Yossarian.

Believe what you want. I really dont give a damn.

It is now time disclose the real imposter.
About a month ago, I was accused of the same accusation that I am accused of today By time that I was able to respond

this guy was suspended.. Not for our discussion but for some other reason he was in conflict with some one else.

Two weeks later, he came on the scene again, under the name Kozalowski..Reading his posts, It was not long before I realized who he was. I contacted him via PM and told him that I knew who he was.. He got furious but did not deny it. He threatened to complain to adm. i told him to go ahead.

Two weeks later yesterday, I was attacked again,with the same accusation ,and same words as before.. This time under. another name.He took me by surprise. But after awhile things fell into place.. I wont mention his name.

He did accomplish one thing though. He convinced me that at my age (83) I dont need this abuse. Life is too short.

Therfore I am leaving to seek greener pastures. But before I go, i would like to quote another Great American.. General Douglas McArther when President Truman fired him. In a speech to Congress he made this quote.

Old soldiers never die, we just fade away

You dont have to quit just because of some goofball out here,
Just stay away from the political threads, we know half these people dont know what theyre talking about.
PF has more to offer than the limey Obama threads:)

Well take it easy if you dont come back:)

You really should check people's previous posts.

I think that you'll find that Franek uses the phrase 'shag off' and one or two other select phrases, after a conversation with one of the (female) posters on the forum.


I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that you should keep posting here.

You have my respect.

Wrocław

Franek may well be a geriatric old dribble, but he is not very British English - for a start he cant spell colour proper like innit which pretty much proves the point

I have absolutely no respect for Franek and his prehistoric opinions but the forum benefits from his contributions, if only to keep the likes of me amused

I will join Wroc in asking that Franek continues posting here

VFK

Yeah, Franek needn't go through a Q&A session but I'm sure he'd be happy to silence the doubters once and for all.

The Franek WWII thread anyone? Step up to the plate Franek

I suspected this was going to happen.

To say nothing of the inconsistencies between the divisions and landing beaches, at a minimum it should be second nature to rattle off your Company and Battalion. This was your Band of Brothers: the privates, corporals, NCOs, lieutenants, and captain you knew firsthand. This isn't the level of info that you find on the Internet, it's too detailed. But for veterans, these are the details that were important. Not divisional level details and war strategy. I have read all his posts on both forums, and find this level of detail missing. There is a healthy dose of skepticism noticeable on the other forum as well. I stand by my assessment.

I will also say that I have been quite professional here, and have never gotten defensive, called anybody a fool, or told anyone to shag off. That's what people do when they're backed into a corner. Turn it into the other guy's fault.

Anyhow I digress. If the forum wants a WWII vet, then the forum should have a WWII vet. Sorry for spoiling the fun. I shouldn't have gotten involved, and won't post again. I'll go to a forum where people are not disrespecting our war veterans by impersonating them, and the crowd wants more. Have fun guys.

I think that you should also stay with us.

David, you are one of the most informed people on the forum. You provide support for your positions much better than most. I was NOT having a go at you.

You may put Franek to the sword but it will be interesting.

OK, I read through some of the posts here (some I agree with, some I don't, some just seemed to go off topic), and rather then respond to individual ideas or topics I figured I would respond just to the first posting and give my history with guns and overall opinion. If you want just the short answer, scroll down to the bottom:

Honestly, I have mixed feelings on guns.

I was never a "gun" person. They always made me nervous. Growing up in New Jersey, I didn't really grow up with guns- except for DuckHunt on Nintendo. On occasion, I would visit a friend (in what used to be the country) and shoot a shotgun once or twice- and that was it.

When I went to college, I joined Army ROTC for a year. Although I don't think military life was for me, I got to do so many cool things. One of those was to shoot an M-16 rifle. I have to say that that day I was not very nervous- and I think that was because of the controlled environment. The drill sergents made sure that no one was doing anything that they were not supposed to. I wasn't a bad shot and actually thought that target shooting was fun.

I didn't shoot anything else for years after that. When I got married, I knew my husband wanted a gun, but I didn't want one in a tiny apartment. When we were on vacation with friends, he bought a pellet rifle and targets to keep at our friends in PA. Once again, I enjoyed target shooting.

Before the election, there were rumors that if Obama was elected that gun prices would sky-rocket and it would be extremely hard to get one. My husband begged and pleaded, and I finally broke down. My husband is usually responsible, but sometimes he has his dumb moments- especially when his friends are involved. I told with him that the first even remotely dumb moment he has with a gun, it is out- and he knows I'm not bluffing.

He has had two pistols and a shotgun for nearly three months now. He is extremely careful with them and makes sure his friends follow the rules (and my rules) when they go to the range. They all respect that a gun can be dangerous and is not something that should be "played" with.

He has this one friend that I always felt was irresponsible- except for when it comes to his guns. He is very careful with them. He has two step-kids now, so he keeps them locked up and out of sight.

So, after all that...I do think that Americans have the right to own firearms. The problem is that not everyone is as smart as my husband and his friend- and that is what makes me second guess the constitution. There should be gun control and education, not gun bans. We have too many stupid people in this country when it comes to guns. They either don't understand the magnitude of guns and death- or they just don't care.

Yes, an accident sometimes cannot be stopped or prevented. But that is usually not the case. Most gun-related "accidents" are mistakes mixed with stupidity- someone cleaning a loaded gun, a family member is mistaken for an intruder, a bullet ricochets and hits someone else, stray bullets hit innocent by-standers...This country has too many "accidents" when it comes to guns.

Instead of banning firearms, I think the government needs to regulate it more. Make it more of a federal thing rather then a state thing. In NJ, you have a bunch of papers to fill out, and a few days before you get your permit to go purchase a gun. My father-in-law in PA simply went to the store. I think each state should have more consistent laws in obtaining firearms. Also I think gun sellers and law enforcement officers should be more educated on civilian gun laws. If my husband has a question about his guns and the laws, he usually gets 5 different responses- one from each person he asks (cops, lawyers and sellers alike).

If all states have the same laws and procedures and all the people involved know them and follow them, then the government can stop focusing on people who want to legally obtain a gun, and start focusing on illegal gun activity. There are three main reasons people get a gun- sport (hunting and target shooting), protection, or crime. Normally, people wanting it for sport or protection are going to follow proper laws and procedures to get one. Unless they are a stupid criminal, someone wanting to commit a crime will not. If all states are regulated, the government can spend more time finding the illegal guns.

Plus if you ban guns all together, new problems arise- just look back at prohibition.

The short answer:
Americans should have the right to own guns. The government should regulate it on a federal level, rather then state, and make sure everyone is properly educated. They should focus more on the illegal gun trade.

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