PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND

Completely, but you have people who are basically thugs (who may be escaping trouble back home) moving across borders with little or no control, things can be a little dodgy.

Of course, there are those in society that need much stronger protection as you have stated. I do not deny that in the slightest.

But you'd be in breach of EU law. The free movement of goods, services and people between every member state.

i think you were trying to put your point across while att he same time making me admit something because you felt i may give in with my thoughts because of the fact the guy you were talking about was disabled. That was all.


as long as the state is not supporting them and they pass all the relevant checks then why not have them come over, if there family members are working and supporting them, its ok but if they need the state to help them, then forget entry.

I do not deny that at all.

this is why the legislation, laws etc need changing to benefit the UK or in fact we should forget and leave the EU all together :)

Doesn't that result in less co-operation, yet still a need in the UK for continued immigration?

Totally agree, its only ever been nothing but trouble

dosen't really matter, plenty of people want to come here, we can pick and choose who does whether were an EU member or not.

Apart from the peace, stability, increased trade, money for regeneration and those bumpy paving slabs at all Pelican Crossings what's the EU EVAHHH done for us...

Supporting their childrens education, providing the elderly with health checks etc ?

I had a nice trip to France a couple of years ago.

EU-funded.

i don't get what your trying to say here??

EU ?? what is the EU ??

European Union, or United States of Europe, lol

What about all the Brits the state are supporting? And lets face facts, the government wouldn't advertise a clamp down on benefit cheats if there were none! Perhaps our own scroungers are requiring dealt with first.

hang on just a second, they are British, this is Britain of course they can be government funded, its an advantage you get when your a British Citizen.

I am saying that if a Polish person comes here with their children and the children are in education, then the state are supporting them surely ?

That if an elderly Polish person comes to live here with their relatives and needs health checks the state will support this.

You should see the street I live in.
No Poles. All British.
But many recipients of the fruits of my labour (deserving and undeserving).

Well said tornado, I cant help but agree with you on that point

your taking very extreme examples, i'm not sure what your trying to prove by doing so, if people are brought into the country and then later on need support then i guess fair enough they deserve government aid. However if that is the case before they come here then again no don't let them in if they are not self-dependent.


Your in Britain they are British, there is no problem with that. If i were in Poland i would expect the same :)

Ah, no, no, no! Of course we should support those who truly need it but those who are cheating the system??? Why should I pay what I do in tax every month to support people who could actually be working and paying tax and therefore reducing my contributions and allowing me to have just that little bit extra each month???

I love to work really hard every day for not very much money so Mr. Smith over the road can sit on his fat lazy arse and **** his ***** of a **** and make more ****ing ******* *********s to harass me at the local shops.

of course we need to root our the cheats of the system and put them to work or even if called for lock them up. Of course this depends on the seriousness of the offense


i'm afraid donkey, that is life, if you don't like it then i'm sure you can go back to Poland and work and let those people you mentioned do the same in Poland.

I'm sorry i have no sympathy with those who come to the country and then complain :) If people don't like it they can always go back home :) its easy

Benefit cheats are stealing out my wages every month! And every other honest tax payer! That's serious enough!

Its an everyday example.


Having a discussion. Offering a different opinion. Debating the issues you raise and questioning them.

i know that and i totally agree with hunting them out, so you can put them in prison and take all the money they have to pay it back to the government and therefore the tax payer :)


everyday incidents that could be quashed if my idea of checking etc was implemented, we would have no dependents in this country arriving as such, if somebody falls ill while here then of course they can have care.

I don't write the rules and regulations, i have a lot of ideas and probably could give it a pretty good bash to be honest but i'm not perfect and can't deal with every scenario your going to give me, If the home office can't do it how can you expect me too, how clever do you think i am?? I don't have 1 thousandth of the resources the home office has available to it :)


I don't mind this at all, in fact as you said i welcome it, i merely thought you had another agenda than just debating thats all.

One minute it's forgivable - they're British.
Next minute - bang them up in gaol!
Who's allowed to complain?

Children are dependents.
What I am trying to do is to quantify your statements which are broad and all inclusive( or exclusive ). From your statements children, people with health needs and the elderly would be banned from the UK unless they had a sponsor who would underwrite their schooling, healthcare etc

I am sure there is a reciprocal agreement about EU citizens accessing healthcare - I'll need to check.

The Hungarians at work go back to Hungary to see the dentist.

People who are legally allowed to vote in a British Government and nobody else :)


yes they are but they wouldn't be coming here on their own, i would assume they would have a family


How many people who you could consider elderly (60+) suddenly decide to up sticks and move from Poland to England for example??? I'm not sure thats an everyday example

plus i did say before, my statements are from one man not the home office, give me a break its like me against the forum. I don't mind standing my corner but your going to have to accept there is only so much quality that a 22 year old student can give. I'm not a politician and i'm not a world leader, lol :)