PASSPORTS FOR POLISH PEOPLE TO COME TO ENGLAND

Ever complained about a foreign government?

No passport required.

on a person level yes, but not while i was living or working in that county.

There is a big difference between somebody coming to the UK and complaining and saying, the working conditions are rubbish or, i can't believe i'm working so other people can sit about and claim benefits, the government just don't know how to deal with problem x and problem y.

These people do not need to be in the country, therefore do not need to be experiencing of having these problems.

Its different me having an opinion on say, Bush's stand on Iraq and what should be done. As it does not affect me personally and i have not put myself in that position of not liking or having a problem with it. People who have come to the UK and complained have put themselves in that position and can change it by leaving.


what has that got to do with the price of bread :)


don't understand what you are referring to and what part of the conversation it involves

I don't need to be in the UK.
Thanks be to the EU!
However, you have overlooked one little fact...
You're arguments are pretty illogical, considering your dependence of the nationality of the person making the argument.


Seen the title of the thread, Mr. Twister?

EU or not you are in the United Kingdom, most of which is governed by the Labour party, different from Poland or any other European country. EU or not this governed by politicians voted in by the citizens of the United Kingdom and not the EU. seems pretty logical to me


what is wrong with that, i'm British, whether i'm Polish or English its my view.

What countries are you allowed to complain about as a British citizen living in the UK?

on a serious note, our own country the one that we live in.

there is complaining and then there is having a view, you have a view if you live outside or are not involved directly with that country of which you are talking about.

but your getting of my point.

You are hear of your own choice, if you don't like something you can do something about it and remove yourself from that environment. where as if you have a view on America you can't directly do anything about it

Mr. Tornado.

I am here because I never chose to leave.

May I now complain?

I have a friend from Lodz, single mother, two children under age of six. She arrived with no job. How would this statement affect her....



She now has a job, earning minimum wage, her tax will not cover her childrens education or health needs. Would this be foreseen at point of entry?


Guess who came over to look after the children ?

you didn't choose to leave, you were born here or what?? why did you come here if you didn't want to??


she would not be allowed in, it would be down to the Polish government to support her


she would not have got in in the first place.


again N/A they would not be allowed in the first place.

this does seem unfair, so maybe in the checking process there could be some kind of job centre involved so that a job could be set up for the mother. I'm not sure how this would work so please don't ask me, why not ask the home secretary?? lol, although i don't think even the home sec would no :)

I am English.
I didn't want to tell you because I was enjoying your arguments.

fair one, you know you reminded me of school where once we had a vote on whether we agreed or disagreed with the statement, we were made to go against our vote and construct an argument for the side we had voted against.

It was really cool and i enjoyed it :)

I'm guessing your view differs from mine on the Immigration and the EU situation then?? I' feel like its been me vs the forum all night, lol :)

I want people to come here and work.
I want people from here to work.
I happen to enjoy work myself.
There is a need for a social security net for those who need it.
To allow people to work, social security is required to support workers and their dependants.
It is all about balance.
I also believe in the EU as a means of international stability, co-operation, trade and sharing of ideas.

i agree put paramount to all that is the overall welfare of the UK, controlled immigration is one step towards that.