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Irish Primary schools to teach Polish


Torq  
18 Jul 2009 /  #181
How much do they cost? is it painfull to install? I could use that for Polish.

LOL

It is there already installed in your head, WB. You used it when you learnt
your first language and can also use some of its power to learn a foreign
language. Linguists argue as to the extent to which LAD can be used after
you reach puberty, but most of them agree that it is possible.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
20 Jul 2009 /  #182
Well actually I can understand the guy. Personally I would rather my daughter learn English, German or Spanish than Irish, in which, it seems she would have troubles communicating even in Ireland. I can understand why some would feel the same about Polish. However, I don't see where does it state in this article that the Poles are responsible for the sudden change in the curriculum.

As for the problems with integration, it’s been only 5 years for Christ sake. Give the people some time.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
20 Jul 2009 /  #183
Matyjasz

Thanks for your support. The proposal was pushed through after the Polish lobbied the NI education board.
Nathan  18 | 1349  
21 Jul 2009 /  #184
Hi there. Magdalena is from Ireland and my name is Krzysiek and I am from Japan. I need to be confidential as well because of my job (I am a student - shhh!). Using names like Kimoto or Kawasaki would shed my disguise immediately and you would know who I am ;)

I just wanted to put in some of my thoughts into the issue. The country is Ireland, so it's primary concern should be financing its own language - Irish. The school system also should make available languages spoken predominantly in the world - English, French, Chinese, Spanish. For all those interested in any other languages should pay out of their own pockets. Why should children learn Polish and not Japanese then? For me it is simply outrageous. Mass exodus doesn't justify priority of the new language. Nobody forbids you to have your own language taught, but learn to open your own pockets and don't suck it out of the country who took you in just 5 years ago!
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
21 Jul 2009 /  #185
Nathan

Great post, my friend. I respect the Japanese, a wonderful culture and you do not give in to the PC madness unlike the west. Fair play. Long may you stay homogenous.
Nathan  18 | 1349  
21 Jul 2009 /  #186
I am Ukrainian - I was just pulling Magdalena's leg :) Anyway, this is how I see the issue.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
21 Jul 2009 /  #187
Nathan

Magdalena is as Irish as pasta.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
21 Jul 2009 /  #188
Magdalena is as Irish as pasta.

There is more inconsistency here, namely Magdalena is a female name while our poster seem to be a male. But enough about him. RN, could you guide me where exactly does it say that this change in the curiculum was imposed by polish lobby? Or do you know that from some other source?

Hi there. Magdalena is from Ireland and my name is Krzysiek and I am from Japan. I need to be confidential as well because of my job (I am a student - shhh!). Using names like Kimoto or Kawasaki would shed my disguise immediately and you would know who I am ;)

Yeah, and Nathan is so uber-ukrainian. lol
magdalenaG  2 | 67  
21 Jul 2009 /  #189
There is more inconsistency here, namely Magdalena is a female name while our poster seem to be a male

Get over it & move on...I'm as Irish as they come.

& for the record RN , yes I do teach my children Irish.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
21 Jul 2009 /  #190
Get over it & move on...I'm as Irish as they come.

Ok, ok... I just thought that Magdalena is a strange name for a man, that's all. No hard feelings brate! :)
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
21 Jul 2009 /  #191
Get over it & move on...I'm as Irish as they come.

And confused about his sexuality too ;0)

just thought that Magdalena is a strange name for a man

Maybe he dresses up and fancies himself as a Magdalena...Strange choice of name for an Irish man given the history associated with the name! (slight variation, same name)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magdalene_Sisters
BritishEmpire  - | 148  
22 Jul 2009 /  #192
This just sounds like another load of rubbish to please a small minority group (a speciality of the UK & Ireland), if your going to teach your children something then its best to teach them something that will be of real use to them aswell as your economy when they grow up.

Chinese would have been a better option for obvious reasons.
And before all the whiners come on here moaning that poland this and poland that take a moment to appreciate the fact that china will be the biggest economy in the next 50 years if not sooner and theres 1.2 billion of the little noodle eaters running around.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
22 Jul 2009 /  #193
Why Chinese? What makes you think they want to learn that? Are they Asian? Are you insinuating we will all be beholding to the Chinese some day? Not when we make our own cars again.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #194
As China is a growing economy, it would be more beneficial for Irish children to learn Chinese than Polish. Id rather they learned Irish and English in school as standard. Let their parents choose if they learn any additional language.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
22 Jul 2009 /  #195
As China is a growing economy, it would be more beneficial for Irish children to learn Chinese than Polish.

Only if they plan to go there but who wants to live in China because it's polluted and over populated? Just because their economy is growing doesn't mean it's a fun place to live and people will end up moving there.

Polish children would more likely use the Polish language later on, not Chinese.
Wroclaw Boy  
22 Jul 2009 /  #196
RevokeNice:
As China is a growing economy, it would be more beneficial for Irish children to learn Chinese than Polish.
Only if they plan to go there but who wants to live in China because it's polluted and over populated?

Its got nothing to do with living there, its about international business skills. i will definetly be pushing my children to learn Chinese/Mandarin. Think about the career opportunities it will present when China become the new super power. Not many westeners will learn the language.

Polish children would more likely use the Polish language later on, not Chinese.

38 million Poles 1000 million Chinese, im thinking Chinese will be more beneficial.
Nathan  18 | 1349  
22 Jul 2009 /  #197
Only if they plan to go there

Why then Polish has to be taught in Ireland when Irish are not interested in planning to settle in Poland? As WB said:

Its got nothing to do with living there, its about international business skills.

OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #198
As the Poles plan to settle in Ireland. In large numbers, they care not a jot about our tradition and cultures. Yet, we pander to theirs. Lunacy.
Del boy  20 | 254  
22 Jul 2009 /  #199
I do care, read a lot De Valera and James Connolly things

Del boy
look at De Valera grave

Christian cross, not a Celtic one, strange is not?


OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #200
No, no it is not. Visit an Irish grave yard, no celtic crosses around.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
22 Jul 2009 /  #201
There is a couple in the background of the pic.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #202
szkotja2007

So what? Dev choose a catholic cross. Big swinging mickey.

I fail to see what point Del Boy is trying to make. Dev was born an Irish citizen, his mother was Irish. Connolly was born to Irish parents, therefore he was an Irish citizen.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
22 Jul 2009 /  #203
Why then Polish has to be taught in Ireland when Irish are not interested in planning to settle in Poland? As WB said:

Hey there Nathan, since RN doesn't fancy to answer my question, maybe you will. You seem to be quite knowledgeable about this subject, tell me what is the word among the Ukrainian community in Canada?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #204
There is more inconsistency here, namely Magdalena is a female name while our poster seem to be a male. But enough about him. RN, could you guide me where exactly does it say that this change in the curiculum was imposed by polish lobby? Or do you know that from some other source?

Check their website. Its how things get done in Ireland, group lobbies relevant government agencies, things get changed.

Do you honestly believe the government acted alone? That they where not lobbied to introduce Polish lessons in class? Come on......
Seanus  15 | 19666  
22 Jul 2009 /  #205
OK, will you be enlisting your kids in Polish lessons? If not, why not?
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #206
Seanus

I have no kids, that I know of. I have younger family members and they will not be learning Polski. They will be learning Irish and English. Whatever other languages they will learn will be up to them.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
22 Jul 2009 /  #207
How's your Irish Gaelic, fluent? You guys learn more of your own Gaelic than we do.
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
22 Jul 2009 /  #208
Do you honestly believe the government acted alone? That they where not lobbied to introduce Polish lessons in class? Come on......

Right now I don't know what to believe. I'm quite open to your suggestions. However, by the way you wrote about this issue, I thought that you have some proofs other than your suspicion.
OP RevokeNice  15 | 1854  
22 Jul 2009 /  #209
Matyjasz

I have been in correspondence with the department of education.

Seanus

Fluent. What is your point?
Seanus  15 | 19666  
22 Jul 2009 /  #210
Must their be a point? I was just wondering how fluent you were. How often do you use the language? What's the balance with English?

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