Irish Primary schools to teach Polish

No such thing as black Irish then racist?

dtaylor5632

Blacks originate in Africa, they are not indigenous to Ireland, African Irish is what they term themselves. South African President Zuma, has said this week that the whites in SA can never be real Africans. Is he a racist too?

Not at all, I did some invidualting for a friend at a school in north Manchester last year and there was only a couple of white kids in the hall taking exams, the rest were asian. Also your 94% is rather generous, in 2001 it was less than 90%, that was 8 yeas ago. England apparently only has 65%.

What is a real African anyway? I've met whites from SA, they seemed real enough to me :)

Well in those terms you could argue that the whole human race originates from Africa. Or that most Irish would find that their DNA originates from Scandinavia.

dtaylor5632

I have done a DNA test, no african blood in my what so fooking ever. No slav either. :)

revokeNice,
You yet agian started a thread about one thing and have dragged it down to your nutty level.
You are a lonely hateful xenophobic nut liar.
Go back to whatever rock you came from, oh sorry that's right you have been repeatedly banned from the Irish forum for your hateful remarks (about Polish people in particular) and each time you go back under a new name.

You have been caught lying about this.
Now you have come with your tail between your legs to a Polish forum.
You are a sad lonely nut, your own hate will consume you.

I think having the option of Polish as a foreign language in schools is a great idea.

I wonder if its a bit like the Hitler thing, maybe his mother was Polish but couldn't put up with him, so dump him on the street. Not that I know any Polish mums like that.

Well, let's look at the potential for use. RN, how many Germans and French are there in Ireland? How many go on to work at an EU institution? Do you feel like Polish is being imposed on Ireland? Now you know how the Serbs felt with everyone imposing on them.

It's got to be more useful than teaching French, Spanish, German, French, Spanish, German all the time. I was taught German at school, I used to write it and speak it well but now I barely know any of it because I haven't used it since I left school, there was no reason to so for me that is a complete waste of time and resources to have spent 4 years learning it.

I think it's good that the school authority there have recognised the need for an additional (and useful) language.

SeanBM

Sean Sean Seany Sean, I am banned from no forum. Join up and ask.

As per usual you are avoiding the question, what foreign languages do you speak, monoglot? You cannot even speak your own native tongue and abandoned your country for a bit of foreign muff.

It wouldnt matter a bollix to you if Polish was on the cirriculum or not, as you wouldnt be able to learn it even if you wanted to.

Budu ignorovat jste od této chvíle, jak jste blázen.

PolskaDoll

Wie ist die Sprache nützlich?

Seanus

Yes, yes it is beeing imposed on us. The mere presence of hundreds of thousands of Poles in my land, has been imposed against the democratic wishes of the Irish people. Indeed, 69% of the Irish people want them gone.

I go along with PD, Polish is a living language which can be used on the streets/shops. I don't imagine many Germans and French live in Ireland.

Plus that fact that more and more people from abroad and the uk are moving over to Poland to learn more about the culture and work here. The amount of times i've been approached to find someone a job in Krakow is amazing. There is a huge ex-pat community here which adds a lot of value to the city I think.

dtaylor5632

There are less than 1,000 Irish in Poland. Fact. There is no need, or indeed a want, to learn Polish here. The only ones who will take the opportunity to learn the language are the children of Poles. At the expense of the Irish taxpayer, as per usual. If the Poles want to teach their kids Polish, fine. Do so at home, or preferably in Poland. Where they belong.

Primary school lessons last for under five hours per day, it is a waste of time and resources. The time could be spent on more valuable subjects, this is the Polish lobby in Ireland sticking their oar in.

The Loyalist reaction will be intriguing, they sure know how to endear themselves to the local population, do these Poles.

It augurs well for future generations of Irish who wish to ply their trade in Poland. Poland suffered minor setbacks only but just needs to maintain the potential for outside investors to keep pumping funds in. Should it remain an attractive prospect, new waves of Irish can come here and set up shop.

I think many Poles would like that.

Yeah, geeez, thats news to me, and I live here. What about the 400 or so in this city alone?


Also Polish, Romanian, German, British tax payer in Ireland. Oh and also at the European tax payers who dont live in IReland but still continue to have a proportion of their tax given to Ireland via the E.U.

Old saying, dont bite the hand that feeds you ;)

Where would Ireland be now without its E.U grants?

Seanus

Never happen, you are living in cloud cuckoo land. If in ten years, more than 10,000 Irish reside in Poland, I will hand over my share of the beach bar to you, Seanus.

I see what you're saying, but I don't think those huge cities like London, Manchester and Glasgow are accurate representations of the rest of the country. Any gigantic city is going to have gigantic ethnic proportions. It's a given. I could point to most capital cities in the industrialized world and complain about the Africans/the Asians/the Jews/the Poles/the British/the Arabs/the Indians/the Chinese/the Latins taking over. People who are bitter about this fact should just move somewhere else in the country.

Using Wikipedia as a source, in 2006 England had a 90% White population. If by "65%" you mean only "65% ethnically Anglo-Saxon", then that's quite irrelevant.


Studies indicate that the entire human race originated in Central-East Africa. The point that was being made is that all ethnicities and nationalities are NEVER indigenous to a particular point of land. They migrated there at some point, and most likely they fought bloody and senseless battles for that land, either wiping out the former settlers or being wiped out themselves by future settlers.

More useful than German or French or Italian as far as I can see. My friends daughter just left her primary school to begin attending high school. Her Mum asked her if she was going to miss primary and she said yes etc and then said she wished she had learned Polish rather than began learning French. She had Polish children in her class and even an 11 year old could see it would have been better to have learned Polish rather than French.


Don't bother trying to turn this thread in that topic again. This thread is an interesting one but has nothing to do with anyone in Ireland wanting Polish people to leave, it's about kids in school learning something which will be useful to them.


Exactly and with a basic knowledge of the language before heading off to Poland they would be even more prepared. The kids in my friends daughters class had a project recently. The Scottish kids were to make presentations about Poland and the Polish kids were to make presentations about Scotland. It was a very successful idea and has kindled an interest in Poland in my friends daughter and some of her other friends.

RevokeNice, what you forget is children are more tolerant than adults in general. Children should have that tolerance encouraged.

Should I be giving you my bank account now?! ;) ;)

If loads of pupils learn as standard, they may want to use it. There are many like PD and I who feel disillusioned with the fact that we couldn't use what we had learned.

Many friendships are being made in Ireland and many might want to come back to Poland with their buddies.

Your own hate is consuming you.
bye bye.

dtaylor5632

We wouldnt have over a million foreigners here, thats for sure. We would have control of our own destiny. Oh, and we wouldnt be allowing the EU free access to our waters. The EU has taken more out of Irish membership, than has given. Access to our waters nets the EU billions per annum. Over 50% of all fish consumed in the EU comes from Irish waters.

More to the point, what the fook has Poland given Ireland. Using your logic we should tell them to sod off.

Oh, and just to complete my ickle survey, another monoglot are we? What languages do you speak?

Seanus
Do you smoke drugs? Sean, this is optional, NO IRISH PERSON WILL BE LEARNING POLISH! ONLY POLISH CHHILDREN.

SeanBM
Bye Seany boy, come back to me when you learn a few foreign languages and make foreign friends other than Poles. Maybe then you can call me a xenophobe. Maybe you can go back to primary school and sit in with the Polish children, they might help you with your ABCs and 123s. You might learn a bit of Polish too. You can do it, Seany. Mazel Tov!

RN, it's a reality in Britain. Many Poles are mingling with other immigrants to learn English. Many are mixing in order to learn Polish. Language exchange is only natural.

The Irish travel far and wide, why can't the Poles do the same and set themselves up there? What freedoms do you lose by Poles being there? Irish and UK people should really be expanding their linguistic competences.

RN, of the languages you know, how many do you use on a daily basis? I know 3 and can say that I use 2. The other I have friends to practise with.

Drugs? No. You didn't know it was optional just a couple of hours back when I asked ya. So, let me get this straight, you have a problem with choice???

Is that part of the topic. Over a million you say? now 1/3 of Ireland has been over run??!!
Atleast the women will get better looking than the normal inhabitants ;)

Oh I speak Polish, English, a little Scots gaelic, though i havent practiced it in a long time, I know some Filipino, and to top it of im learning Spanish now ;)

How many billions has Ireland received from the EU compared with other countries?
How much is it receiving now when Europe is begging for cash?

Plenty in Manchester, but they all speak English. ;0)

You are xenophobic and I know how to speak several languages but I am not as good at Polish as I would like.

Bye bye ;)

But more people speak French than Polish. Its is used to carry out international business. Tell me what real benefits this will have for Irish students, not just a warm feeling they will get inside from the "multicult" experience, convince me, if you do I will sign my little brother up. :)

They are just using their rights, though. Life here is pretty bad for many. The Poles pride themselves on their education system yet pay badly. I will soon have to pay 2500PLN for taxes, rent, ZUS and my accountant. Many don't even get that after tax/ZUS.

The EU is a big club, RN. We have to give and take. The new Irish are being prepared for working with Poles in Ireland and Poland, what's wrong with that?

Seanus

I want nothing to do with the EU experiment and hopefully the Irish people vote no in the upcoming referendum.

I fail to see how teaching Irish children Polish is beneficial. It is a waste of taxpayers money and could be put to better use.

What do you mean by the new Irish by the way?

If you look at the present and the future Polish will be more useful for children to learn today. There's no reason why they can't also learn Spanish, French, whatever they want. Tell me how many children who are learning French at the moment will actually require it when attending to international business in the future, the answer is, not many. If I think carefully about it the company for which I work deals in English for all it's international business, never French.

The children of today will grow up in a society that will include a more Polish influence. So it makes more sense that Polish would be a more useful language for children of today to learn. When Poland joined the EU in 2004 and Polish people came to UK and Ireland it was predicted that it would be a "fad" that would not last long, well, 5 years down the line we now know that not to be true. We must change to suit the way our modern world is. UK and Ireland has always been multicultural. What is the sense to keep banging out the same languages that my parents learned in school (and never used)? There is no sense.