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English people attitude towards Poles?


jnowiski 2 | 121  
26 Aug 2007 /  #511
i'm from the US in the South...so people automatically assume i'm a racist, which is why one of my best friends is a black guy...lol, yeah, i think thats pretty racist too :)
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #512
its "ooop norf " lol
no, er,Argyleshire origionally,checkmate lol
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Aug 2007 /  #513
so people automatically assume i'm a racist, which is why one of my best friends is a black guy

so... you have a good black friend becaue people automatically assume your racist...?
jnowiski 2 | 121  
26 Aug 2007 /  #516
so... you have a good black friend becaue people automatically assume your racist...?

no, lol. i'm saying people automatically assume i'm a racist hillbilly because i'm from the south, yet one of my best friends is black...i'm just saying some people assume your something just because where you're from...i don't even know if its relevant, at the time it seemed like it was, but now i'm just confused as hell :D
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
26 Aug 2007 /  #517
aye..

What the hell is this ?
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #518
lol,I would have put the disclaimer,some of my best mates are black/asian. but it sounds cheesy and anyway,why should i....he he, you should have heard us at collage, me,a guy from Ivory coast and a guy from pakistan, the stuff we'd call each other just to wind up the pc mob :)

Its context and intention, Im not sure I like the fact lady that your implying im rascist just because I know what bairnchudd means or that ghandu was not a cousin of Ghandi

.k
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Aug 2007 /  #519
aye means yes in oopnorfish
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
26 Aug 2007 /  #520
What the hell is this ?

6 Points in scrabble
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Aug 2007 /  #522
i remember when i was in london a black guy sat next to me on a bus and at one point we might have even looked at each other but i cant remember exactly

aye aye

you learn fast
Lady in red  
26 Aug 2007 /  #523
well... just as i believe that stereotypes exist i believe that we can identify common properties inherent in different nationalities - as with averages these properties are not found in equal amounts in all instances but in sufficient qantity for us to be able to identify

Yes but, the problem I feel (and is just my view) is that you can identify 'common properties' in any nationality but it still wouldn't produce you an average of what we now term as a "British ' person. My reasoning is that there are far too many

variables entering the equation to be able to produce a meaningful average in this case. What would you put down as 'common properties then' for example ?

It's easy to do it in say a country like Poland. e.g. One could say that the average polish person is Catholic. That could be based on fact (high percentage are) or a generalisation (as again it's factual knowledge) .

How could you say something similar for Britiain. Also, bearing in mind that we are now England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Even the term 'Brit' is questionable as well !!
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #524
aye aye can also mean "phwor" or "hubba hubba" :)
or just aye aye look at her ,what does she think she looks like
Eeeh lad,is another aye...or ey oop, meaning hi.....
Lady in red  
26 Aug 2007 /  #525
your implying im rascist

I didn't imply anything. I merely stated that I was not entering into such a discussion.

How you choose to interpret that is down to you and your understanding. I cannot be held responsible for the way you choose to read what I have written in black and white. Huh !!

<s>

:)
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
26 Aug 2007 /  #526
are far too many
variables entering the equation to be able to produce a meaningful average in this case. What would you put down as 'common properties then' for example ?

Interesting question.
When one thinks of stereotypes are we drawing on the "common properties" or the uncommon, or the "just different from me" properties ?
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #527
weve only been britain since the union of 1708(?)
and of course you cannot come up with an average briton,thats why you narrow it down into sub groups,english (chwip spurrgh) Scots welsh etc then maybe further down to british asian,british muslim British bangladeshi etc etc but, seemingly even though you are looking for ways to "find" the avarage brit you dont seem to like the most obviuos way to subdivide for clarity as I attempted to do.

When I was in my early to mid 20s no one gave a crap about these labels and beyond loony bnp types people were pretty much colour blind. Over the last few years we have seen increasing nonsense handed down from on high that seems to want to subdivide us and point out differences and have everyone in nice little boxes and at the same time not......
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
26 Aug 2007 /  #528
Wherever you go in the world, you will always be in the minority.
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #529
well tell you what lady in red come out and tell me straight what you think instead of hiding behind little comments designed to get peoples backs up, come on,libal me Im gonna pee myself when I show my collegues at work this thread tommorow and so will they:)

again,always the mature course of action ,and one taken by people with no leg to stand on..."Im not entering into a discussion" wow,thats gonna work innit

:)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Aug 2007 /  #530
What would you put down as 'common properties then' for example ?

if we can agree that common properties is synonimous with characteristics then the results of a MORI poll might answer your question -

The MORI report found a great deal of resistance to the idea – especially among
the British focus groups – that there was any such thing as uniquely “British”
characteristics. Nonetheless, a number of clear characteristics which could
be described as “typically British” emerged fairly consistently from all the groups:

• humour;
• politeness;
• individuality;
• pride;
• tradition/history; and
• reserved/uptight/snobbishness.

These lead us to the criteria for assessing Great Britons.

Characteristics of Great Britons

Reserved

Tradition & modernity

Sense of humour

Strength & determination

People who are perceived to have achieved things despite the odds are regarded as more “typically” British than people who are perceived to have had an easier time of it.

Paul Crake
RSA Programme Director

lets just add this as another supposed characteristic

Britain has been a very racist country

szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
26 Aug 2007 /  #531
Im gonna pee myself when I show my collegues at work this thread tommorow and so will they

Yes, they probably will - but why?

Its context and intention

Lady in red  
26 Aug 2007 /  #532
When I was in my early to mid 20s no one gave a crap about these labels and beyond loony bnp types people were pretty much colour blind.

That's not actually true. Britain has been a very racist country and though things have changed to a large degree it is still with us. It's just that then, there were no laws to help those who were being racially attacked in all areas across our society. :( Therefore, many chose to turn a blind eye to what was happening. ( When I say 'attacked' i dont mean physically. I mean in the workforce, day to day lives etc)

well tell you what lady in red come out and tell me straight what you think

No. I don't wish too......what are you going to do now ? Bully me, call me names. etc......

:(
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #533
Quoting: isthatu
Im gonna pee myself when I show my collegues at work this thread tommorow and so will they

Yes, they probably will - but why?

my poor spelling and slightly ranting tone maybe....damn ,wheres the blushing emoticon when you need it. Seriously guys,im no rascist,just old n cynical and a bit of a devils advocate sometimes ....
Lady in red  
26 Aug 2007 /  #534
I never look at mori polls bubba.......

what date is that mori poll from and to please ?
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #535
Quoting: isthatu
well tell you what lady in red come out and tell me straight what you think

No. I don't wish too......what are you going to do now ? Bully me, call me names. etc......

:(

last thing id want to do,my apologies Lady
Lady in red  
26 Aug 2007 /  #536
I'll have to follow on with this tomorrow am just too tired to discuss it any further this evening. But it's an interesting debate so will be happy to continue with it tomorrow.

:)

Night all :)
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
26 Aug 2007 /  #537
whether you look at them or not they remain a respected research organisation

the report was a work-in-progress 2OO4 - 2OO5
isthatu 3 | 1,164  
26 Aug 2007 /  #538
Britain has been a very racist country

just one more thing ma'am...how can a "country" be rascist, people from that country maybe,but the whole country? Even in Sth africa there were plenty of white people in or supporting the ANC by definition south africa had a policy of rascism but a "country" is just land,hills and rivers etc....unless the Trents a rascist
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,104  
26 Aug 2007 /  #539
I never look at mori polls

No me neither. Generally these polls reflect about 1000 (or however many people are asked - never more than a couple of thou) people in society and not the British public as a whole.

Night all :)

Night LIR :)
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498  
26 Aug 2007 /  #540
Night all :)

Night LiR.
Here is a link for breakfast tomorrow.

Humour linked with cleverness, politeness and the 'stiff upper lip', and a sense of British pride and 'bulldog spirit' are among the key British characteristics identified in the Exploring 'Britishness' research undertaken by MORI for the RSA.


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