English people attitude towards Poles?

the north of Ireland was riff with discrimination G. Its still something that needs to improve but it is 85% better than the 70's 80's and 90's

it is a triumph for peace and tolerance today - from where it came. it still has far to go but my god man the progress there is so visable :)


you can disagree but you you dont live in the UK and do not know. whereas UK citizens have told you and you refuse to accept what they tell

that is your choice. it is perception when you view something different to someone else btw

Thats their ( Protestant) perception...the same way as giving a local Catholic a job was worse than giving it to a foreigner!!!!

Even today....G.....trying to buy land/farm off a Protestant is very difficlut in some areas....yes in 2007!!!!!

Daffy, the question wasn't if you're proud of being called a 'Celt,' but if you'd be happy if the generic term 'Celts' were used as a generic term in a negative context.

Imagine a situation where the Scots have done something wrong, but the press hacks report that it's the 'Celts' who have done it. Wouldn't you demand that the hacks mentioned the culprits by their specific nationality, and not by a generic term?

No, the press hacks don't use the term 'East Europeans' out of ignorance; they know what they're doing when they use it. - Namely, they use it as a synonym for the Poles, and in order to avoid branding negatively other 'East European' folks than the Poles.

Max payne writes: 'It is understandable that people in everyday speech use those blanket terms, they are not expected to know many differences between EE cultures. But journalists should do better.'

- Do you mean it's understandable that people in the EU don't know that there are nations in the EU such as Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians? Is it understandable that those people don't know the difference between them?

Would it be understandable if people did not know the difference between e.g. Swedes and Finns?

The use of the misleading generic terms comes from the media psychopaths.

I get sick and tired of listening to this stuff!...Yes ok...So how do you explain the fact that most Poles in Britain do the jobs that most English people for obvious reasons don't want to do??......i.e waiters, nanny's, labourers and road sweepers etc!! Hardly a career job!!.....Would you call these people successful and intelligent??.....There is also alot of criminality that goes on amongst the East European community!....I recently listened to a program on BBC Radio 4 about this, and some English chap that has a building Company in London said that most of his work was now devoted to rectifying the work done by Polish builders who come to the UK with forged educational certificates claiming that they are qualified Plummers, Bricklayers etc!!.....And as for English people being jealous of the success of other people!....Its because thanks too the British that we have one of the most successful economies in the world that has enabled you to find work.....I mean how is the Polish economy doing compared to the British one?.....Not very well I would imagine!!

And the only thing most of British can do here is teaching English...

(stop removing my posts !)

Sorry i'm Polish but are you sure you are English? I would much prefer seems to be wrong expression. I've been around alot of British people and i never heard that one yet. LOL

Ajgraham scribbles: 'So how do you explain the fact that most Poles in Britain do the jobs that most English people for obvious reasons don't want to do??......'

- The Poles have no choice. Do you get this, pal? I wish it happened to you. Besides, the door to better career jobs is often closed to the Poles, even though it is open e.g. to folks from the Third World. That's the 'human rights' laws you've got.

The Poles work on sh*tty jobs, get paid sh*t, are exploited without mercy, and still are being disliked and blamed by the local population.

So folks like you complain about the Poles, because your BBCs, ITVs, and similar brainwashing pathological hateful liars and psychos keep the Poles in the spotlight while keeping quiet about those others.

The Poles take the jobs types like you don't want to take, but you're still unhappy and still attacking the Poles - only the Poles of all the others, as you're too cowardly to attack Africans, Arabs, Asiatics, Russkies, even though there are way more of them in your precious little land than Poles, and they don't work half as good as us.

I know how the Poles and others work, as I lived in UK for some time and had my experiences with both.

You deserve to disappear in the Arab, African and Asiatic masses that invade you quietly with the help of your media psychopaths.

If there's God, I hope he'll pay back to you and others like you as you for what you're doing to us.

There are many reasons for the stability of the British Economy in the past 10 years (let's not forget the early 1990's, i.e 14% interest rates, over 4 million unemployed, house re-possessions and company bankruptcies). Among them chiefly are relatively low inflation, due in no small that Bosses from catering to construction to call centres, etc can now pay such low wages.

This is almost entirely due to the influx of new labour from Poland and other former Eastern Bloc countries. Having to pay the wages demanded by English people in these industries would drive up inflation and consequently interest rates. As a result, higher interest rates would mean house re-possessions and less investment in the macro economy, ergo higher unemployment (as witnessed in the boom and bust years of the late 1980's and early 1990's).

This relationship needs to be understood. The Polish work ethic is greatly contributing to a successful and stable UK Economy.

Unfortunately, certain elements of the British Media, in particular the tabloids, have always encouraged a negative image of the foreigner. These views are popular amongst poorly educated and narrow minded racists found in large numbers of the English working class population.

This is nothing new. When large numbers of Irish (up to 1 million) came to rebuild a shattered London after WW2, it was common for signs on houses to read, 'NO Irish, NO blacks, NO dogs allowed'. The common view of the Irish was that of a lazy, stupid, illiterate, drunken, thief.

Polish workers have come in on the bottom rung of the career ladder. They will not remain there if they have the talent to go with the determination and strong work ethic that they TYPICALLY exhibit. There is strong evidence that the progression is already happening. In my line of work I have seen this already. Let us not forget that it is only three years or so since Poland's EU admission. The vast majority of posts in this Forum that relate to Poland and the UK, be they about relationships with Poles, discrimination, anatgonsim from the UK residents should be read with this in mind. We have seen the best part of 800,000 new residents in the UK who are different in many ways. The sheer speed of this build up is almost unprecedented. Yes we have large numbers of immigrants from around the world, many of whom are far less willing to integrate than the Poles but these numbers have built up more slowly so the perceived impact by the indigenious population has been less dramatic. Give it time people and everything will changes from the work carried out by the Poles to the attitude to them from those of us who have not had the opportunity to understand them before. It takes time for God's sake.

Look also at the numbers of small businesses that the Poles have already started. Their ability to mobilise and commit to small enterprises is impressive. Who cares if it is a car wash or an IT company. They have got off their backsides and taken a few risks to make a go of it and good luck to them. Most Polish people are paying their way in taxes and as other have noted they are helping the UK economy greatly. Poles are welcome here and they will integrate and prosper better than most is my view.


Mainly from Albanian and Russian criminal gangs.... I have not heard of any large scale criminal activity from Poles in the UK.

And finally I agree with previous posts about the misleading and inflammatory rants of section sof the British media. Slow news day?.... let's bash Johnny Foreigner.... Care to name me a country where the media don't resort to this?

I wonder who's the psycho..

I agree. It has been used in other countries as well. Minorieites have been used as a scape goat to take the blame or a pressure either of the government or the ones in power. Also, the influx of eastern europeans is more visible, therefore attracts attention. It will eventually die down.

I am not saying that is right, however those are social mechanism, which have been implemented for a long time.

Well some people just are not interested in geography or culture. But that doesn't mean necessarily that they are rasicsts or bigots. People use generalizations. Is it right ? No, but it is understandable.


It is understandable and it happens all the time. But if I have a chance I will always enlighten people about the subject :)

Ohhh, yeah??? Remember 1939...blablabla.... ;))))

Actually my dentist and all the other dentists at the practice where I'm a partient are Polish, they earn 70k pa
I'd say they were pretty succesful

wouldn't bother me - we are celtic. because i understand that it is individuals and not a race that commited the crime.

This is my personal opinion of Polish immigration and the effects its had on my life.

My girlfriend owns a gift shop and a 3rd of her customers are Polish. Our sales have gone up and we plan to launch a dedicated range of Polish products in the future. We now have a Polish girl running the shop. We both emigrated to Spain and the shop is now managed 100% by our Polish worker.

I also own a building company and promoted my top worker (a lithuanian guy) and he now runs the business, he does the accounts, deals with customers etc. We also now have 10 builders on the books and 6 of them are Polish.

This has had a huge impact on our lives because it means at 27 and 28 we no longer have to do any work at all. I know I will end up working again though, I'm already feeling the urge to do something, I've thought of a new business which I want to setup in Poland.

My friend, who runs a corner shop has also noticed an increase in demand for Polish products, he also reports an increase in profits due to Poles coming into his shop and buying Polish products. He has made friends with local Polish people and describes them as highly articulate and disciplined.

To sum this up, my own personal attitude towards Poles is very positive, they've helped make my life better. Why some of you are being so anti Polish is beyond me. Being English are we not ourselfs natural explorers / migrants, you can't honestly say you don't get the urge to leave England and explore? it's in our blood.

That's the English way. As long as we can keep migrating to our villas in the sun no one should care about who's coming to England.

If you'd get more British youths & 45+ people working you wouldn't need to invite Poles to the UK. Because that's exactly what happened, they didn't came there themselves all of a sudden, they allowed them to come because they needed them badly. It's in part thanks to them that your country can grow economically.

If you want less foreign workers in your country, have more Brits work. Simple. Slight problem though, the British chav youths would rather stay at home smoking pot & playing PS2 on their 20th birthday than to wake up every day at 7am. That's why you have Poles, Africans & Chinese. They work their asses off while sending half the cash to their family so lil' Jonnie can relax & watch the footie.

Yes, I'm generalising, not all chavs are on the dole. -I know-. But you get the point.

k-thx-bai.

- Are you sure it's the case, buddy? - If the Poles had to send to their families even 1/3 of what they earn in the UK, they would not make it there. Why? - Because they earn little, and the cost of living in the UK is exorbitant: taxes, Home Office rip-off (only for the 'East Europeans'), rent....

The fairy tale about the naughty Poles coming to the UK in order to drain it from cash has been fabricated and spread by the media psychopaths.

Do you believe in fairy tales, Sparrow?
:)

I like Poles, I like Poland having visited Poland a few years ago, I am saddened that there are so many people in the UK - not any particular race or creed, just too many people! There is going to be a time when there isn't enough space, food or work to go around and thats when things will turn nasty. Prepare yourselves for this time.

The Uk is like a bucket, it has a limited capacity, only so many people can live here, when do we say no enough is enough? It is going to take some hard action and tough politics to sort things out, otherwise we are going to turn this country into a very awful place, and although I am ashamed of parts of my culture, I still love my country and most of the people here, I don't want that to happen.

Being nasty to Poles or any other race isn't the answer, it isn't their fault they are here in the UK. They just want a decent life. They are no better or worse than you or me.

That's besides the point. The point is not if they get paid a lot. The point is they get a job. Even if you take into account that they pay rent, foodstuffs, might send money to Poland, it still beats having no job at all.

There are 2 types of Polish immigrants, easily divided: undergraduated & overgraduated.

Undergraduated possibly never finished high school, sometimes not even elementary school & look for menial labour such as cleaning, fruit plucking, factory work, etc.. Tons & tons of work like that in Western Europe, never runs out.

Overgraduated are Poles with a bachelor and master, a Ph.D. sometimes, post-graduate studies, could easily find a job in Poland but moves out because he can earn 3, 4 or even 5x more in a company abroad.


I don't know where you deducted that from what I posted. I don't believe the UK is drained from cash, a country's economy grows when job applications are filled up & don't stay vacant.

(he's does that alot - twists your posts. don't worry no-one else thinks this)

Me and my friends have always got on and had a laugh with our Polish friends. I personally dont hold a general opinion and prefer to see people as the individuals they are.

Puzzler.....You can't deny alot of your fellow Countrymen throw alot of SH-T in our direction?....I havn't been brainwashed by the Media.....and I don't vote for the BNP or anything like that!!.......All i'm doing is throwing some of your own SH-T back in your direction!!.......So keep your hair on for F--CK SAKES!!

Get him Puzzler! Attack him with your milions of questions!

Buahahahahhaha:))

Hi! My first post here, this thread is pretty interesting, as an englishman I would like to say that I am glad the polish have come to england as I found my girlfriend 2 years ago working here, I have spent a lot of time visiting her relatives in poland and have never experienced any problems apart from the occasional older person not understanding why I cant understand them! I think poland is a nicer country than england the children are more freindly than in england and more respectfull and you can go to the pub without having to fight some one at the end of the night!

my girlfriend is working in a good job with good pay here it is true that poles get a bad deal some times but if you are possistant and can speak good english there is no reason you cant earn good money. when the economy picks up in poland which should be soon and the road networks in rural areas are a bit better we will be moving there.

there are good and bad people in every country,every sex and every colour! and dont believe eveything you read in the press! keep smiling!

Thank you !!

Basically you have summed up the answer to many of the threads on this site, it is as simple as that..!!

Many? Like 90% of the threads start with "Is it true that all Poles are <insert negative comment here> ? :))

I'm in a very conservative mood today with my estimations ;-)

I am not Polish, so I will not speak. What is a conservative mood anyways???

Polish girls can be conservative in the smaller towns and interiors....however in Warsaw and surrounding, they are not thought to be conservative!... often, its common in Polish families....to consider Warsaw as something ... umm... slightly different then the rest of Poland....but ofcourse...an integral part of us....our capital!