England, Dirty, Expensive and a dangerous place to live?

I quite like parts of central London. I think it was a place called Clapham I went to for an interview, there is a nice park near there. I like the cosmopolitan feel of it.

Actually it's South of London,the park is quite popular nice place.

Well, London is so big these days. It south London or south of London?

sorry my mistake it's south London.

That's ok, I didn't think I travelled that far ;)

if i won the lottery i would f!!k off no proplem, even though i love my country it's just lost it's way everythings got tits up.

yours truthfully disgrunteld pissed off fedup brit

I agree to a certain extent.

Is it dirty ? Well, it depends where you live, but it's certainly not very clean, but that is because many people don't care and see any kind of mess as someone else's job to sort out.

There are certainly too many cars and too many people, so it's never going to be that clean unless you can afford to live away from the rat-race.

Is it expensive ?

Considering how many people have been living off credit for years and years and are now being forced to live within their means, I would say that with the exception of property, it's not so much expensive, more that people seem to want everything.

Is it dangerous ?

In certain places yes, but that's because we have a Police force that have to do their job with one hand tied behind their back the whole time. If the thought of prison sent shivers down the spines of those that murdered Ben Kinsella, it would probably have never happened in the first place.

People like that don't carry knives for protection, they carry them because it makes their tiny c**ks hard and gives their useless existences some kind of sick meaning.

Of course there will be danger when the only people that don't step out of line are the sorts of people that would never step out of line anyway.

Is there anyone here who has lived in london for ALL of their lives?

umm well.off and on.....most of it yeh....:)

And where do you live NOW prey tell ? ;-)

ooh a lovely suburb of London on the south coast..;)

London is the place to be
for the attraction of Her Majesty
sights and sounds like no other
full of life and death for every brother
from hackney wick to Harrow west
from a suited gent to tramp in vest
with the London eye and the bombay mile
and the shop keepers frown to the muggers smile
black, white, yellow, orange and brown
take the red bus to olde london town
with a swigger and swagger of your harrods bag
and the smell of a burger, a beer or a fag
the cabbies moonlight and don't speak the lingo
and the ministry of sound has just introduced naked bingo
the price of a pint is cheaper than tea
and every friggin corner has a swank place for coffee
the air is so clean with the stench of ****
and the people who abide are still "lovin it"
so a word to the wise an alarm bell warning
don't go to work, sleep in for the morning
get up late and go to bed early
this is the place where trannies are burly
and if after my post you still can't compete
with the abduls and marvins, not forgetting irish pete
then write out a letter to our friend boris
and go home to dover and listen to doris!
and with a flutter and a flicker i'm off to the pub
and drink myself silly on uncle jacks rub
czesc ludzie!

Oh I know it. Sounds like the sort of place that people at parties say they were born and bred in, in their broad Yorkshire accent ;-)


Very good, did you write that ?

;0)...thought u might...actually..:)


Mark007 that's brilliant, please tell me u wrote it

Now while i don't mind my country being the centre of criticism i do have to wonder what would happen if somebody posted something similar about Warzaw or any other world capital.

I'm quite happy to see the UK recieve criticism but i'm sure it would not go down so well if it were directed at Poland for example. It seems sometimes on this forum that you can criticise what you like as long as its nothing to do with Poland or the Polish :)

Shelley, who started the thread, is British and you'll probably find that a lot of those that replied are, like me, British too.

So the answer is actually no :(



and erm... don't quite know how to put this but london or any of it's suburbs, even by a huge exaggeration, is NOT on the south coast :)

I was born in brixton and grew up in camden. I am 27 now and have left london for good after I experienced the way of life in Poland. And I can tell you that london is a two faced city.

It is both wonderful and sinister.
It can be a place of amazing dreams,
or it can be the worst nightmare imaginable.
It tends to swallow young, lovely, intelligent people, naive and innocent from all over the world and spit them out as drug addicts, criminals with demoralised values, disillusioned by the bright lights and the glamour of london.

And anyone who has spent a few years in london, and manages to escape the corruption, vile behaviour and misery never wants to return....

Yes its all my own work and just to prove it

The growing pains of a poetic superstar

Im a poet and i play with words
and whilst others learnt about the bees and the birds
I dream of rhymes and cheeky puns
of four play word play girls and guns
my mind is set just like no other
with dictionaries as my midnight lover
from dusk till dawn i have the horn
but if i can't rhyme my minds forlorn
with precise incision and rumbling lines
i make the decision following 6th sense signs
a topic or subject does appear
as if by magic, whilst I'm on my rear
often when I'm on the throne
sitting still and quite alone
a little thought pops into my head
a subject matter close to me
and yet i find it's so irrelevantly
frustrating rhyme yet keep the flow
like a one armed man who wants a go!
yet he can't turn the magazine page
and his 5 finger shuffle it takes an age
I feel like I'm trapped inside the sand
like a tone-deaf singer in a one man band
and when the anger does sub-side
and poetic license gives me pride
I can at last come back to Earth
and display the results of a new birth
so people on this cheeky forum
reading on with aplomb and decorum
give me reasons that I can breathe
give me carrots so I can tease
and soon my book of poems is done
and I can take the money and run

prosze bardzo

That was more of a private joke between me and niejestemcapita as we found out recently that we live two streets away from each other :-)


I've never lived in London, but lived in Brighton for almost 10 years and have been in Hove for just over five.

I grew up not very faraway so have always had a close association with the two towns/one city and what you wrote about London rings very true with my experiences of Brighton.


Too much of that and you'll go blind ;-)

Oh and don't forget Mr Apostrophe !

Oopss yeah sorry mr H that little bugger called grammar just flies out the window when I'm in fr3e Style mode. By the way grew up in Horsham, not far from Hove and I always enjoyed my trips to the North lanes and the Jazz rooms, ship st!

sendspace.com/file/xo8grj

enjoy the free funk
F3 4M funC!!

I know Horsham very well and was only there the other evening.

I've been to the Jazz Rooms too, but that was so long ago and not sure if it's still there. I just remember that it was a time when not only could you smoke in nightclubs, it was pretty much against the rules not too !

Great days !

A bit off topic , but does anyone know his dad George..? I am sure he is a guy i worked with at a motorcycle clothing shop in Leytonstone London around 1978....

and..er DUHHH...it was a joke?...:) you know???
I think I know my own city pretty well..:)

Sell it when you retire and spend the money as you see fit and don't leave it to your children.

That's what I would do ;-)

then why justify yourself to me?

i'll probably won't live that long ha ha. i might be annoying and let my cat have it after i die ha ha...

JustysiaS
How true Salisbury is wonderfull place go there four or five times a year mainly for the horse racing gorgeous cathedral and very friendly people .

An d you are correct about the south of England but make a piont if possible of going to the South West area Plymouth , Paignton , Dawlish , Exmouth , Dartmouth , and travel along through To Newqauy surfers paradise in sumeer time.

Try to get to Poole in Dorset and Weymouth Bournmouth to all along that coast is fabulous happy travels

Some towns/areas of England always seem clean.Other areas often seem dirty/rundown. England can actually be a cheap place to live due to all the discount stores and supermarket special offers.Dangerous? - again it depends whereabouts. The problem before (maybe still) for some Polish people was that they were very naive and chose to live in areas with low cheap rents.The reason for these cheap rents was that that these were rundown blighted areas infested with drug adicts,lifetime benefit scroungers,and all the dangerously mentally unstable and problem families that councils rehoused.Areas like this (which seem to be growing thanks to the benefits culture here) are dangerous.

Is life getting better or worse in England since you joined the EU?

I think you guys made a big mistake, how many people live there now 60 million????

That's because loads of the little villages have been bought up by rich townies who don't want to live in expensive, dirty towns!

I'll agree the rural areas are generally very nice and well looked after (says the Shropshireman!) but I'd also agree with Shelley that by and large, British cities are filthy compared with European cities...

That said, the railway stations are nicer than those in Poland. Warsaw is dirty and scary.

Also, living in Warmia I am constantly told that everyone is (rightly) proud of the beautiful nature and "the green lungs of Europe" and yet everytime I go through the forests or round the lakes they have been used as middens!