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England, Dirty, Expensive and a dangerous place to live?


Seanus 15 | 19,706  
12 Sep 2009 /  #151
Likely low as Poland isn't really a gun culture.

Poland managed the crisis quite well. If the Bank of England wasn't so corrupt, with close ties to the evil gits in the Fed, then they'd perhaps have the honour of the Polish banking sector.

Very few Islamic radicals live here and that's a good thing.

The state provides reasonably well for some.

Poland doesn't pitch itself as an asylum haven. It doesn't have the resources yet to provide on a large scale. It was under communism for so long so Brits should understand that.

Picking up that tab is the price you pay for fully embracing a multicultural society.

It often doesn't pay to work. They screw you here. 1600PLN in insurance and tax alone, what a shambles.
Avalon 4 | 1,068  
12 Sep 2009 /  #152
Seanus

Likely low as Poland isn't really a gun culture.

And guns are legal in the UK? The fear felt by the Police forces in the UK must be even more terrible than for Joe Public. They have managed to shoot and kill over 30 unarmed people in the past 3 years, perhaps they know something that we do not?

The state provides reasonably well for some.

I beg to differ on this one, the families have to take care of them or they get
married. In Poland they usually seem to know who the father is.

Poland doesn't pitch itself as an asylum haven. It doesn't have the resources yet to provide on a large scale. It was under communism for so long so Brits should understand that.

I think its more a case of Poland not giving cash benefits. Asylum seekers have no wish to come here.

Picking up that tab is the price you pay for fully embracing a multicultural society.

I like many others was not given a choice or a vote as to whether I wanted to be in a multi-cultural society. This was one of the main reasons I left the UK 6 years ago.

Having lived under previous Labour governments it was obvious what was going to happen.

I agree with you, the tax and insurance here is very high. I think that if Poland were to follow the UK tax bands it would be a much fairer system.

I feel sorry for the people who now live in England. The genii has been let out of the bottle and there is no way that life is going to be the same as in my childhood and youth. The gap betwen rich and poor will become greater, crime will increase, things will only get worse and more people will turn to the far right parties to make changes. Its too late now, 12 years of bad government and interference from the EU will destroy what was once a great nation.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
12 Sep 2009 /  #153
Factions within the UK are more interested in getting their hands on guns than here in Poland. That's an issue for the police there.

They know who the father is, LOL, that was nice!!

That's Poland's choice. Giving cash benefits is fine if you have it but communism was hardly about maximising the wealth and GDP of the country. Poland is more Polska dla Polaków. I don't like that but it's not for me to introduce a sea change in their attitude.

I really agree with the rest of what you had to say. The disparity between rich and poor will only get bigger as the rich have the means and contacts to accumulate ever greater sums of wealth. Many crooks seem to slip under the radar too by escaping to France and other places. I think you made that point.

You are spot on with tax brackets. I can't complain personally but I remember discussing it with a Vattenfall director, a really genuine bloke. Also with a senior engineer at Isover, a genius of a man. They both painted the same picture, that the government swipes vast sums from under their noses. There are so many good people in Poland who know what is going on but are powerless to change it. God Bless such Poles!!
Mister H 11 | 761  
13 Sep 2009 /  #154
So nothing actually happened?

Just a fear of a crime not an actual one.

Fair point, but it is still enough to put some off going out, or certainly put them off going to certain places.

I'm in my mid-thirties now, so my nights out clubbing are few and far between, however, rewind ten years when I was out most weekends, I don't recall seeing such a heavy police presence in the exact same Brighton street.

Of course Friday and Saturday nights were busy nights for the police I am sure, but they were not on the scale that they are now.
OsiedleRuda  
13 Sep 2009 /  #155
How many Polish people were shot today?

(from the link above)

Oh, WHAT a surprise! :p
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
13 Sep 2009 /  #156
Still, it will be interesting when the EU decides how many asylum seekers Poland has to take in as their "fair share" quota.

Oh really? Is this an EU directive? I'd love to see it but I have a feeling I'll be disappointed since most of the rubbish you've printed is unsubstantiated nonsense.

It's actually a good example of the typical Polish whinge about how they are so hard done by. Everyone is always attacking them - the Russians, the Germans, the Jews, the Muslims (why?), the homosexuals and so on - and it's never their fault.

Poles - stop being such whiney ******* and move on.
Avalon 4 | 1,068  
13 Sep 2009 /  #157
OsiedleRuda

I did not mention that the 6 shootings were a black related crime. I had no wish to get into a racist argument on here.

MrBubbles

When you learn to read and develop an attention span of more than 3 seconds, you will realise that I am English. How can this be a Polish whine?

Don't be a **** all your life, take a day off.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Sep 2009 /  #158
It would seem that the English are sensitive to the observations of others. Some places there are dirty and some are clean, end of story. As for the crime part, this could be fleshed out more.

Statistics are available online, the culmination of extensive research and reporting.
time means 5 | 1,310  
13 Sep 2009 /  #159
Picking up that tab is the price you pay for fully embracing a multicultural society.

Did we ever get a choice in the matter.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Sep 2009 /  #160
Um, well, in a way yes. Certain countries impose limits on immigration. You open the floodgates once and they are very hard to close. Britain used other countries through colonisation so why can't other countries use Britain?
time means 5 | 1,310  
13 Sep 2009 /  #161
I don't know anyone who voted to open the floodgates and i am not talking eu states.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Sep 2009 /  #162
Some people did but just not us ;) ;)
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
13 Sep 2009 /  #163
Picking up that tab is the price you pay for fully embracing a multicultural society.

Diversity, can you afford it?

Did we ever get a choice in the matter.

Election manifestos?

PS would you recommend the Jack the Ripper tour? I want to go on it someday. Is it any good?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Sep 2009 /  #164
It depends on the costs involved :)
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
13 Sep 2009 /  #165
Big cities are invaribly dirty for a number of reasons, more people, less of a community spirit, more take aways, shops, etc etc. The main reason of course is, people just dont give a damn. No pride in their community compared to more rural areas.
time means 5 | 1,310  
13 Sep 2009 /  #166
Election manifestos?

I dare say it wasn't mentioned.

PS would you recommend the Jack the Ripper tour?

Never been on it matey, although i would imagine it could be interesting.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
13 Sep 2009 /  #167
I dare say it wasn't mentioned.

Hmmmm, it is funny that all major parties brush that under the carpet at election time.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Sep 2009 /  #168
A manifesto is a series of pledges, aka propaganda. We should never hold our breath over such proposals. Prevarication is the way that they avoid what they formally signed up to. Ducking and dodging.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
13 Sep 2009 /  #169


Seems clean enough to me. Tour looks excellent. Someday, someday.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387  
13 Sep 2009 /  #170
for all things JTR go here: casebook.org

misquote: polishforum posters are not the men who will be blamed for nothing.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859  
13 Sep 2009 /  #171
Wroclaw

Class website, thanks.
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
13 Sep 2009 /  #172
When you learn to read and develop an attention span of more than 3 seconds, you will realise that I am English. How can this be a Polish whine?
Don't be a **** all your life, take a day off.

Poles do whine. And so do you. Where's the proof behind your spastic twitchings? Where's the body behind your argument? And while we're at it, why do you name yourself after a Bryan Ferry song? Get some GCSEs and we'll discuss this like adults.
Avalon 4 | 1,068  
13 Sep 2009 /  #173
As others on here have stated, the facts are available to you if you can be bothered to research them. I made statements, not arguments. Your personal attacks are weak, schoolboy stuff and as for having a discussion with a clown?, I would rather watch paint dry.

Try picking on someone of your own level, you may actually succeed in annoying them.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
14 Sep 2009 /  #174
Britain used other countries through colonisation so why can't other countries use Britain?

To wrongs don't make a right though.
Ironside 49 | 10,327  
14 Sep 2009 /  #175
I must say, if your not English and are complaining, then hope on whatever mode of transport you like and get yourself back to your homeland, which was obviously so good you had to leave :)

Whats your problem man?
You repeating this line all over this thread, again and again......by now you should know that overwhelming majority people complaining here are British!
WTF !??
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Sep 2009 /  #176
tornado2007:
I must say, if your not English and are complaining, then hope on whatever mode of transport you like and get yourself back to your homeland, which was obviously so good you had to leave :)
Whats your problem man?
You repeating this line all over this thread, again and again......by now you should know that overwhelming majority people complaining here are British!
WTF !??

That true enough Ironside but even so everybody complains no matter where they are, right? Tornado lives in a dream world as far as im concerned where little faries dust there magic dust all over the place - he doesnt know squat.

How many times have i complained about Poland on here and Poles have told me to go home?? Plenty, fact is im here for personal reasons and thats all there is to it. Poles have a right to complain in the UK as we all do. Doesnt change the fact that they may wish to stay a while and earn a few more grand does it. Thats a no brainer.
Ironside 49 | 10,327  
14 Sep 2009 /  #177
How many times have i complained about Poland on here and Poles have told me to go home?? Plenty, fact is im here for personal reasons and thats all there is to it. Poles have a right to complain in the UK as we all do. Doesnt change the fact that they may wish to stay a while and earn a few more grand does it. Thats a no brainer.

That true enough.
Although in the thread above complains are made by the British and Torny is writing the line again and again.......
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Sep 2009 /  #178
Well the Brits love a good maon and i did skip over the thread recently and most of the complaints are by Brits. I think Tornado has some quoting work here to prove his point: stand by for a monumental boring ass post from him.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Sep 2009 /  #179
BritishEmpire, right enough. Still, a little taste of their own medicine is just desserts.
BritishEmpire - | 148  
15 Sep 2009 /  #180
That would be fair enough seanus if it only affected the people of the time.
How would you feel if you had to suffer because of what your great grandfather did?.

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