Is it time to tighten gun laws in Poland?

Responsible owner is the key to what you say. Drinking and hunting is not responsible. I also think when a culture demonizes guns and people have very little experience handling and using them this kind of thing is more likely.

I have no problem with hunting non protected animals for food. Most hunters eat the meat...the trophy hunters are morons and not the norm.

I also don't have a problem with this (as a right to be exercised). I just don't like animals being killed but it happens.

Hunting is a separate focus tho. This is not a bone of contention.

I don,t have a problem with them either , but i do wish they didn,t come on my land to shoot the animals , i kinda like having the animals around...mind you there are not so many to shoot....once i have fired up the Harley....

Harley's kill people...ban them ;)

That was suggested some years back...they wanted to ban bikes to reduce the large number of deaths on bikes....i reckon banning cars would be a better idea..it would reduce bike deaths by 80% , car deaths by 100% , and very much reduce truck driver and pedestrian deaths....but then the powers that be drive cars , so a non starter...

Haha...yeah. When you are on a bike EVERYONE is trying to kill you.

But to be fair the twats around here ride bikes as bad as they rdrive cars.

Nice ducking skills gtd. Accidental deaths caused by sth that wasn't designed to kill are far different from intentional deaths caused by sth that was designed to kill, wouldn't u say?

been riding since i was eight...now 55...ain,t got me ...yet...!

OF COURSE it is differently semantically. But deaths are the point here...not the intended design for the tool.

I really doubt you are against guns because they were DESIGNED to kill over the fact that they DO kill. The DEATH is the negative outcome we are discussing here.

You are the ducker (that just sounds wrong) as you have avoided the death issue in favor of a semantics argument. I know YOU know this and are being all strategery as Bush would say.

OK, let me put it to u another way. Step by step, please answer my questions. Please give the shortest and simplest answer gtd

1) Guns DO kill, why?

At the end of the day the people who have no interest in guns will never understand those of us that do , and those of us who use guns responsibly will forever be tarnished by the nutters out there...In the same way that car drivers will never see why us bikers should have the right to run around on noisy dangerous motorcycles....Its all about the freedom of the indivdual who has a right to exercise his free will whilst hopefully accepting the rights of others not to suffer for that freedom...I think we shall have to agree to disagree on this one , but it was an inteligent and entertaining argument.....

Yes they can kill...because living organisms might not survive metal projectiles penetrating vital organs at high rates of speed and pressure. ;)

Or simply....the damage done by the bullet can end breathing and bloodflow.

That is both how and why they kill :)

Last time i saw somebody shot...blood flow was not a problem...

Let's ensure that wires are not being crossed tho. I taught a guy at Vattenfall and we often discussed his weekends hunting. It was interesting for me as I know a little about guns. I believe in responsible use FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

Question 2

Is the number of gun-related deaths in America higher than in Europe?

I guess i am a strange one...although i have a historical interest in guns , experiance of using one as a soldier , including being shot by one , and enjoy using one for the sport of target shooting.. i have absolutly no wish to shoot any animal with one...unless , the animal is in pain , its going to eat me , or i will die if i don,t eat it...!

I gathered that ;)


Europe overall? I honestly do not know and would have to look it up. I would guess yes.


Ouch....

A little about guns is different from little about guns, dumbass

Yes, OK, I can tell you that the number is much higher in America.

Question 3

Why is that?

not serious...only in the arm...hurt tho....

Question 3

Why are there more gun-related deaths in America than in Europe?

Care to share? The more details the better.


Well I know a lot about guns and I can tell you do not. Being unfamiliar with something often brings a fear along with it.

Answer 3: In my opinion it is because (hang on for the shocker) we have more guns and more overall crime thus those guns are used more in commiting AND defending the crimes. There would also be MORE gun deaths if law abiding citizens could not own them. Bad guys still would and would use them with impunity.

A point...not all gun deaths are good guys. I feel no loss for a killer or rapist etc being shot. Next...though the above reason is likely true it does not justify making guns illegal all together. I bet you Scotland has more knife deaths than the entire USA...and it is tiny by comparison....we have WAYYYYY more knives than you and somehow this still stands....

I added a point in editing so maybe reread it before accusing me of changing something.

Well, u should comfortably answer my questions then

Question 4

Do Americans value human life as of the utmost importance?

I believe so. I also believe that is why people carry guns in self defense. They want the ability to protect their lives and the lives of loved ones and innocents should they be threatened by someone who does NOT value life in such a way.

Every gun training class starts with...if you and those in danger can run away then do so. People are not 'looking' to kill...it is a last resort.

bumped into a bad guy with a gun...face to face stuff....we both fired....i was a better shot...he died..i lived...its probably why i behave responsibly with a gun...i have seen what they can do...

Christ man...point blank?? Were you in law enforcement or was this is a military action? Where, when etc?

Question 5

If you felt that sb was really gonna shoot u, then you'd shoot them first, right?

Basically yes. But I would make every effort to resolve the situation without going to lethal force....that includes running away. If that was not possible and I was as positive as one reasonably could be that he was going to shoot me or an innocent person in his reach I would try my best to take him out first.

Mmmm tricky one this...yes i was part of a miltary unit but the guy i bumped into was not a soldier..He was however a wanted killer responsible for a fair few deaths...i don,t really want to say where this took place , but it was not in the UK....

Running away, that's the Scottish approach, u MUST attempt this.

OK, one dead man, well done, u shot him first, he's dead. Expect retaliation and a second death.

Question 6

Isn't it ur bed time yet? LOL

We can pick up from where we left off tomorrow.

Your choice...I am an insomniac often.

Guns don't kill. People do.