These are both lazy lies.
Are they? If you find disagreement with Encylopedia Judaica please write them.
It isn't something we learn at Church, as you suggested. It was learned when patriots were arrested, tortured, and murdered in secret. Spare me the bullshit. Jews are well represented among the executioners although they were supposedly holocausted.
No I don't, I mean mass collaboration, in Lithuania and Ukraine specifically.
At the moment I don't care what Jews say about them; I care that they call Poles collaborators in mainstream press, yet they make excuses for their own collaboration like:
I think collaboration is an extremely complex subject and an area that has to be trodden on carefully
They seem to apply that only to themselves. To Poles they are quite comfortable to just smear.
And, to speak straight to your point about lack of examination of Jewish collaboration with Germans in World War Two, you're incorrect. There has been much work and introspection on this subject by Jewish historians.
You and I and three other persons read books written by historians. The rest gets their history lesson from movies, bullshit articles in the dumbdowned press, and docudramas. How else do these opinions arise:
lipstadt.blogspot.com/2007/10/enduring-myth-poles-were-worse-than.html
Last week I was in Poland. While there I kept stressing to the people with whom I was travelling that it is wrong to depict Poland as a place of unending antisemitism or to fall prey to the absurd but, nonetheless, oft-heard comment made by Jews who visit the place, "The Poles were worse than the Nazis."
Many people, Jews primarily among them, believe the balderdash that the Germans put the death camps in Poland because the Poles would be happy to see the Jews killed. They ignore the fact that to the Germans Auschwitz was German territory and was to be the site of a major German settlement.
One person, who is well-informed and well read, found this notion of Polish non-complicity hard to grasp. He kept trying to find links:
Weren't they guards at Auschwitz? No, I said.
Well weren't they part of the Einsatzgruppen, the mobile killing units?
Many people, Jews primarily among them, believe the balderdash that the Germans put the death camps in Poland because the Poles would be happy to see the Jews killed. They ignore the fact that to the Germans Auschwitz was German territory and was to be the site of a major German settlement.
One person, who is well-informed and well read, found this notion of Polish non-complicity hard to grasp. He kept trying to find links:
Weren't they guards at Auschwitz? No, I said.
Well weren't they part of the Einsatzgruppen, the mobile killing units?
People get this "knowledge" from history books?
I'm happy to point you to valid books and papers.
Please do. Then we can discuss how the Jewish writers were roasted by the Jewish community for writing about taboo subjects ie. Jewish Nazi collaboration.
Better yet, point me to where this is talked about in the mainstream media. Sjam, when asked the same question could only dig up a 1987 New York times article about a Jewish kapo. You seem a lot smarter than he, so we'll see.
Well it was you that stated it 'It was similar in all the satellite states' and low and behold I prove in just one tiny example this is not true...
Ahha, you have no doubt won that argument then. Sit back and have a beer now. I will be more careful when talking to pedantic you.
