Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism

You will get there. Poland is starting to take a stand and speak out it just takes some time.

Just curious; the thread, "Jewish Hatred Toward Poles" is closed but this one is still open.
This isn't "PC" at work is it?

I was just wondering why it was closed, we can talk about anti-Semitic just not anti-Polish? How very sad. :(

You’re completely wrong on both accounts there. Well, either that or you are lying. I pointed out that you must be Jewish because you said that only Jews could escape Polish communism but your yourself escaped Polish communism.

As for the memorial, at no time did I say I would only donate if the donation is tax deductible. Please try a little harder not to lie. What I asked was whether the memorial is supported by a Polish-registered charity because if it is, I can ask the Polish government to donate 1% of the tax I pay them to that charity.


Yet again you are being extremely economical with the truth. It wasn’t Sjam, it was me. And as I said in the post “frankly I can't be bothered to go past the first ten results of a google search for ' "Jewish collaboration" nazis' ”

This is a great initiative by the polish government. Hopefully they can expand this to include all visible minorities.

I also hope that Pole-hating jews like you, Harry, can sleep better at night now.

This is so true and its way overdue. Have you seen what it looks like?

I'm gonna tell u a story, from family experience, comes from pre-war Poland, a family member opened up a clothing store in a small town, he worked hard phisically all his life, wanted something better, he deserved it, anyhow, as soon as he was getting alot of custemers other stores ( owned by Jews) lowered their prices so much that the poor guy went bankrupt in a months time. They couldn't stand it that a non Jew was making money and bringing competition. And thats how it was all over Poland in the big cites aspecially. So those people who think our anti-semitism (if u wanna call it that) is some crazy paranoia, need to read a lil' about REAL Polish history. Its our country, ethnic Poles, the founders and builders of that nation and you think we'll be ur dogs in our own land?? who do u think u are. I can't blame Americans for being blind to all of this since their media is fully controled by these people, but us Eastern Europeans should know better. All they (Jews) care about is THEMSELVES no one else. No one wants to kill anyone, holocaust was a tragedy for Jews, Slavs, others, just stay away from us.

I agree 1jola it should embrace fighting Polonophobia!

Most nations that have organizations abroad try to promote the culture of their country, turism, language, etc. Jewish organizations promote the Holocaust and constantly study the ever rising levels of anti-semitism. Morbid paranoia.

This 'logic' seems to be being applied today against Polish people undercutting locals.

Action threatened over Poles' pay
A union has threatened industrial action over claims that Polish workers on a Kent building site are being paid 30% less than the agreed rate.(click here).

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7940901.stm

What do any of you think about the comparison I am making?.

I don't know, Sean, if that is a similar comparison. Certainly the Poles would like to make the 30% more like the Brits. It is the employer that is doing the undercutting, but the Poles may take the heat. The workers are accepting the wages offered just like you or I pay the prices in stores that are listed.

Fair point.

I do see a parallel still, Jews were invited into this country (Poland) and did not do anything illegal, like Poles now.
Jews lived here for hundreds of years in harmony and I can see now, with the recession/credit crunch, how easy it is for people to turn on the "Others".

(by others i mean people from one country, living in another, who were invited)
Imagine if there were people starving on the streets.
I can imagine people taking everything that the "Others" have worked for.
This is just a 30% pay reduction, I hope history doesn't repeat itself.

There is always resentment of the 'foreign.' No matter how we try we are still tribal (well, except for our Harry the cosmopolitan) and want to blame somebody. I don't quite accept the Jewish unfairness in business practices. This argument is similar to blacks in American cities who are ticked off that Korean immigrants dominate the grocery stores in black neibourhoods. If Poles were outwitted in business, they should have organized better. The way Koreans do it in the States is they band together several families, work like hell at some menial jobs and pool the money earned so one family can open a business, then another. I'm affraid with Poles there would be no agreement which family starts first. We are not exactly consensus people.

I agree, not just Poles of course.
But competition is healthy for the public.


Solidarity,
You'd be surprised, Poland is changing as you know.
And there are some very clever entrepreneurs doing good business.

I keep thinking of that film "children of men" it is not a good film but basically there is a catastrophe and the government sets up "detention centres" and the first people "quarantined" were the immigrants.

Solidarity, yes. It is weird because in the time of need we seem to do very well as a team; when things are good, we revert to bickering and poor organization.


Being an immigrant is tough in so many ways and it isn't for everyone. As the economy is not strong one can predict backlash against the new members of society. One one hand they are welcome, on the other they are resented. In any case they should be careful and behave well. They lack seniority.

I know you are refering to Polish people but I think this applies to all humans.


I agree and I think most immigrants don't immigrate out of real choice.

The Jews were being persecuted throughout Europe and probably other places, when Poland took them in.
The Polish king at the time wanted their business and banking skills, I believe.

While the Poles have been invited to Ireland and some other E.U countries.
Polish people had the chance to get work and in many cases earn more than they did here in Poland.
While Ireland needed the work force.

i don't know if i am being too, black and white about this, it is a generalisation.
My point is, most people would prefer to stay at home, given the option.

You miss one small but rather crucial point: the employers are not selling anything, they are buying labour. Poles are selling their labour and selling it at 30% below the price charged by British workers. They are doing exactly what the Jewish shopkeepers supposedly did in Pennboy's fable.


Sounds like a very good reason for not being tribal. Pity you personally want to carry on being part of the problem and not part of the solution.


We? We? You did nothing in the time of need! You'd run away to west. You abandoned Poland in her hour of need and now you have the cheek to talk about Solidarity and what "we" do in a time of need! Your parents would no doubt call that "chutzpah".

Lol, its cute when you're trying to grasp basic economics :)


We, we, because most Poles believe it or not did something, my parents did something, their parents did something, milions of Poles stood up and said "No" but then again what do you know of Polish history:)