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The Polish-Hungarian friendship is as well as poisoned


Bondi 4 | 142  
15 Jun 2009 /  #1
The Polish-Hungarian friendship is as well as poisoned by Hebrews in Warsaw
(in Kuruc.Info 14/Jun/2009)

Among the foreign language transmissions of the national Polish Radio (Polskie Radio), probably the most interesting and the most mysterious in its aim is the transmission in Hebrew language that broadcasts from satellite as well as on the Internet and on the FM wave since July 2007. The Hebrew broadcast has a well-maintained home-page as well. By studying the editors of the broadcast, it emerges that most of the 12 co-workers arrived straight from Israel to the studio in Warsaw.

It is baffling for us that Poland, or more exactly the Polish Jewry that allegedly shrunk to 4 or 5 thousand in their numbers from the 3 million before the WWII (and 99 percent of them do not even understand the Hebrew), why have a need for a radio broadcast in Hebrew. And why have a need for a clearly anti-Hungarian propaganda? We do hope that the Polish government, being friendly to the Hungarian people, and the authorities of Poland do not know about the officially funded Hebrew company's extremely anti-Hungarian pursuits.

The Hebrew section of the national Polish Radio—just as some Jewish journalists of the press in Hungary—are using misinformation and concealment in their process of trying to poison the historically renowned Polish-Hungarian friendship. Because the broadcast, naming themselves "Kol Polin" in Hebrew (i.e. "The Voice of Poland"), can be regarded as the official commitment of Warsaw in both Poland and Hungary.

On 10/Jun/2009, the homepage of the Hebrew broadcast of the Polish Radio published a news commentary—titled "Black Hungary", formulated in more-or-less truncated sentences with no signature of an author—that comments on the results of the European Elections in Hungary in an obscure, agitated manner.

We would like to know what Poland think about this anti-Hungarian incitement!

Below please find the English translation:

Black Hungary
(a news commentary of the Hebrew section of the Polish Radio)

In Germany, the browns used to fight the reds. Nazis dressed in brown, Communists dressed in red. And, as you know it, the browns won. The Hungarian equivalents of the German Nazis dressed in black at the same time, and these days they are returning triumphantly. Hungary and Austria were the central part of a once unified empire. But these two countries have one more common characteristic. The two peoples were enthusiastic friends of the Nazis, but they have not admitted their shameful past, contrary to Germans. Instead, Austrians and Hungarians tell the world they were victims of the Nazi occupation.

In Hungary, the neo-Nazi party will become the second largest one in the Parliament. Hungary have the biggest population of Jews in Central-Europe. But the No. 1. targets of the Hungarian neo-Nazis are not Jews but Gypsies. Probably because the population of the latter are much more bigger and they are more obvious to the eye. Hungarian neo-Nazis are not like the Western-European right-wing parties. For instance, Greert Wilders fights against the immigration of Muslims into Holland but he is not at all anti-Semitic and he has no territorial demands against the neighbouring countries. Because these were the two important components of the Nazi movement in Germany, and the little countries copying them and similar to them, namely Slovakia, Hungary and Croatia.

The Hungarian neo-Nazis are demanding the territorial autonomy of the Hungarian minority in Rumania and Slovakia. They want to remove the Gypsies who, according to general opinion, are not foreigners immigrated in recent times. And they do not only talk. They also kill Gypsies. Gypsies are migrants with no country. But their territorial demands against Rumania and Slovakia can risk the political stability of the whole region. Problem is that the far-right has no idea for a solution to the economic crisis. Far-right can only deepen it.

Seanus 15 | 19,706  
15 Jun 2009 /  #2
Is Hungary part of Poland? No, of course not. So Poles likely don't care that much.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
15 Jun 2009 /  #3
There is some connection between the two, having very good relationship, I am not sure exactly why?.
I met a load of Hungarians in Peru, they told me that their country really liked Poland, although they did not know why.

enthusiastic friends of the Nazis

Were they?.

e Hungarian neo-Nazis are not Jews but Gypsies.

Are they?.

And have you a link for that?.
Ironside 49 | 10,163  
15 Jun 2009 /  #4
Don't understand it! Hebrew ? What it has to the with Poland?
Switezianka - | 463  
16 Jun 2009 /  #5
Who's supposed to care about it at all?

It's of no concern to Poles and Hungarian what a Hebrew radio says, and why would Jews care about Polish-Hungarian relationships?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649  
16 Jun 2009 /  #6
If no one in Poland can understand hebrew then what does it matter what they say about Hungary? No one can understand it anyway so they aint gonna know the relationship is being poisoned.

If no one can understand it in Poland how is this poisoning the relationship?
OP Bondi 4 | 142  
16 Jun 2009 /  #7
The govermentally funded Polish Radio published that "article" in their Hebrew language section. Therefore it can be regarded as the official statement of the Polish Government.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346  
16 Jun 2009 /  #8
No one gives a crap, not even Hungarians (asked a few friends) no one even knows about it so who the frack are you, you're sure as hell not Hungarian.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
16 Jun 2009 /  #9
Therefore it can be regarded as the official statement of the Polish Government.

Polish radio simply should be privatized, because otherwise politicians will continue to spend big buck on ridiculous projects like Hebrew language section :)) You may be sure that every private investor would immediately cancel this unprofitable business.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
16 Jun 2009 /  #10
In Hungary, the neo-Nazi party will become the second largest one in the Parliament.

Which "neo-Nazi" party is that ?
mafketis 22 | 7,754  
16 Jun 2009 /  #11
Hungary is one of my favorite countries (where I would try to move to if they kick me out of Poland). Great food, drink, fun cities, weird and cool language, thermal baths. Fantastic place. I heart Magyarorszag.

But ... you have to be blind to not notice the dark side. Hungarian politics tends toward extremes and Hungarian nationalism has a definite ugly side to it.

It's surely an exaggeration to call any of the major parties neo-nazi but prejudice against gypsies is pretty wide-spread and accepted and they make a very convenient scapegoat for the many failings of Hungarian politicians.
Crow 137 | 7,974  
17 Jun 2009 /  #12
Poljaci listen

Serbian would tell you few comments on a news commentary of the Hebrew section of the Polish Radio

The Hungarian equivalents of the German Nazis dressed in black at the same time, and these days they are returning triumphantly.

Jews said truth here

Hungary and Austria were the central part of a once unified empire. But these two countries have one more common characteristic. The two peoples were enthusiastic friends of the Nazis,

Jews said great truth here

but they have not admitted their shameful past, contrary to Germans. Instead, Austrians and Hungarians tell the world they were victims of the Nazi occupation.

i wouldn`t tell it better

same is with Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina (Bosnian Muslims and Croats), Albania,.... all great supporters of Nazi Germany expansion (even on the account of Poland!) and today all of them presented as Nazi victims and Polish friends

The Hungarian neo-Nazis are demanding the territorial autonomy of the Hungarian minority in Rumania and Slovakia.

well, Jews said part of the truth here.

I don`t know did they mistaken, forgot or whatever reason may be... to mention that Hungary also has appetites and demends on the territory of Serbia

Just for the record >>> Representatives of Hungarian Nazi and right winged parties crossing the border with Serbia and openly spread Greater Hungarian propaganda among Hungarian national minority living in Serbia.

But their territorial demands against Rumania and Slovakia can risk the political stability of the whole region.

Truth but, again Jews fails to mention that Hungarian provocation of Serbia can turn into real problem

all in all, Jews said truth here. Just, Serbs are ignored, its obvious to me. I presume because official Israel support creation of Greater Albania. It maybe sound mind-blowing but when it comes to Serbs, suddenly, mujaheediens, Jews and Hungarians have something in common and all of them agree that Serbs have to be punished for something. i have idea what`s their problem but its not the topic of this thread

ok. thats what i wanted to tell you Poljaci, on this
PolishCowboy 1 | 48  
17 Jun 2009 /  #13
Is Hungary part of Poland? No, of course not. So Poles likely don't care that much.

Maybe they are trying to shake some reparations out of Hungry for supporting the Nazi cause and bla bla bla ......the same old song and dance.

Watch, in thirty years when WWII is mostly history they will ask for reparations from the Brits and the French because they promised to defend Poland (therefore Jews by proxi) and did not.

Great food, drink, fun cities, weird and cool language, thermal baths. Fantastic place.

You forgot to mention the beautiful women.

Serbs have to be punished for something

Serbia is similar to Poland in this respect, your force fed mouth fulls of sh!t from all (even from so called friends) and yet your expected to keep a straight face and keep asking for more.

Fu(k'em.
mafketis 22 | 7,754  
17 Jun 2009 /  #14
You forgot to mention the beautiful women.

In Central Europe that's like not mentioning the fact that the people there breathe oxygen.....
Arlene  
17 Jun 2009 /  #15
<<Is Hungary part of Poland? No, of course not. So Poles likely don't care that much. >>

I hate to say this. Hungary & Austrian used to be part of Poland years back. I am pretty sure Poland do love them even now. These countries really built lot of villages like Cracow, Trute, Waksmund and others. They should be honors by Polish People. Look at all the foods you are customed to. Saurkraut, potato pancakes and sweets too. These countries did beautiful jobs in building houses.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,542  
17 Jun 2009 /  #16
Not only that! They had common border with each other in the middel ages and not much warfare between them, mostly Transylvanian and Czech trubles. Also the most important thing is that under the Hungarian uprisings many Pols helped Hungarian insurgents, later Hungray helped Poland with supplies in the battle named "Miracle of Vistula" later in 1939 when Hitler asked/demanded the Hungarians to help him conquer Poland they replied that they couldn't do so becaouse of moral codes. Later in the Warsaw uprising the Hungarian division stationed there was more of trouble then help for the Germans since they gave weapons and some even joined their side for the struggle.

Also in 1953 when Polish students had done soem riots in Poland, the Hungarians marched in hundreds to support their borthers, later it became the Budapest rising!

Also it is a Polish-Hungarian day (Wich I don't know the date of shamefull) wich is included with festivals and etc.
There is a saying in Polish and Hungarian "Pole, Hungarian two brothers/friends, for fight and to party!"
"Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, do szabli i do szklanki!
"Lengyel, magyar két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát"

youtu.be/_YJVO6jPaR0
OP Bondi 4 | 142  
17 Jun 2009 /  #17
No one gives a crap, not even Hungarians (asked a few friends) no one even knows about it so who the frack are you, you're sure as hell not Hungarian.

Na, persze... No, właśnie... I was hoping to find someone to confirm or not to confirm the article on that site, anyway.

Which "neo-Nazi" party is that ?

It's surely an exaggeration to call any of the major parties neo-nazi

There's no such thing as a neo-Nazi party in Hungary. Hungarian politics are in the extreme the other way round. It's the same extreme that gives life to biased news articles of this kind.

prejudice against gypsies is pretty wide-spread and accepted

I would call it post-judice or hard experience. Take Italy for an example.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
17 Jun 2009 /  #18
but prejudice against gypsies is pretty wide-spread and accepted

I wonder why is that ? How anybody could feel anything else than pure love toward these great, honest and hard-working people ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
17 Jun 2009 /  #19
The transition to capitalism stung them. They are good people, I enjoyed my time there.
Babinich 1 | 455  
19 Jun 2009 /  #20
it was high treason to betray an ally.

Only the attempt to kill Hitler on July 20, 1944, which created confusion among the occupying German authorities in Hungary, provided Horthy enough freedom to block the deportation of Jews and anyone else from Budapest.

I do not believe the penalty for "not being polite" by breaking an alliance, an alliance with the devil, should be the systematic liquidation of the citizenry.
Torq 28 | 2,673  
19 Jun 2009 /  #21
I don't see an "eternal polish-hungarian friendship"

There's a whole lot of things that you don't see, BB.

History didn't start with the treaty of Versailles or WW2 and even during
the WW2 the Polish-Hungarian friendship was evident and you know it very
well, because I explained it in the thread in which you were moaning about
how sh1tty allies were the Hungarians during the WW2.

I can understand that you may sometimes miss some things written on this board
or don't understand certain events from Polish history, which is understandable,
but sometimes you evidently try to stir sh1t and that's exactly what you're doing
in this thread.

It's sad, but luckily no amount of sh1t stirring from you or some half-wits
on YouTube, can in a slightest degree diminish the eternal, 1000 years old
friendship between the Hungarian and Polish nations.

I understand that other nations may envy Poland and Hungary, because there
is no such thing as Hungarian-Polish brotherhood between any other two nations
in the world :)
Crow 137 | 7,974  
19 Jun 2009 /  #22
The Hun and the Magyar were nomadic peoples from the vast planes of Asia, extremely skilful in riding horses.

all true but, not enough skilful. They were good but, far to be best. Turks were better horseman. Hungarian cavalry prooved to be inneficiant against Turks. Its historical fact.

Only Serbians, regular ligt cavalry of Serbian Empire, known as GUSARI (meaning bandits) was better then Turks, better then anything what was known in cavalry tactics in a whole Europe and world.

That what was known as Hungarian Hussars in history comes from the Serbian Gusari. First Hussars were Serbian mercenaries in Hungarian army. If Serbs didn`t learned you to ride horses as they need to be rided properly, if were to achieve maximum charge effect, Hungarian cavalry would be eaten by Ottomans.

Sarmatians simply learnt to use the Asian inventions such as the stirrup. Slavic tribes were not mounted but cultivated the land.

Please

Sarmatian (old Slavic or if you want Proto Slavic) civilization was streached from a Europe to the Asia. Slavs are native peopulation in both- in most of Europe and in great part of Asia/Eurasia.

And, there were nomadic and farming Slavs (Sarmatians/Scythians).

Take for example ancestors of modern day Poles who were in general one of first agricultural Sarmatians. That`s why even their tribal/national name becomes name of POLJACI, which reffers on a farming people/peasents on Slavic languages and in English translation. It was primordial and samorodni name given by the way of life of old Polish ancestors. Togather with it tribal name POLJACI used universal names of all Slavs such were names SARMATIANS (Scythians were nomadic branch of Sarmatians) and later SLAVJANI/SLOVENI.

On the other side, modern day Balkan Serbs are in general mix of two Slavic branches to say that way.... from a farming Sarmatians (agriculture was even first invented on Balkan and via old Proto Slavic Danubian culture distributed all over the Slavic world and Europe) and as a later admixture Balkan Serbs received strong influence of Scythians, particulary of their European Celtic branch, to be even more precise of Celtic tribe of Scordisci.

So, it is clear how is possible that best cavalry tactics and best cavalry riders in a world came from a medieval Serbian Empire.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
19 Jun 2009 /  #23
Polish cavalry was rumoured to be super strong too, Crowie. Have you read up on their various battles and exploits?
Crow 137 | 7,974  
19 Jun 2009 /  #24
Polish cavalry was rumoured to be super strong too, Crowie.

it was Serbian gift to Poles
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
19 Jun 2009 /  #25
And look how cretins like Kwaśniewski and Tusk pay you back. Are you a member of any Serbo-Polish society, Crow? I'm sure such a thing exists.

Do you like Magyars, generally? They are very enigmatic people, weird skin but with great aspects to their culture. Chess and goulash are 2 thinks I like from Hungary, there are more.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,257  
19 Jun 2009 /  #26
There's a whole lot of things that you don't see, BB.

I'm by no means perfect! :)

the eternal, 1000 years old friendship between the Hungarian and Polish nations.

Well...if you say so....
I only think that the facts speak a clear language.
Talk is cheap, it's the actions which count...
Crow 137 | 7,974  
20 Jun 2009 /  #27
Polish-Hungarian friendship is as well as poisoned

listen people. Look from a bright side. Rasputin was also poisoned but he survived and smiled
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,542  
20 Jun 2009 /  #28
Also during that Budapest uprising Polish civilians send their blood for wounded Hungarians.

There is just en eternal friendship, even when Hungarians were on Axis side they allowed Polish forces march through their land and letting the Polish ambacy work on Hungarian soil until German soldiers marched in, 1944
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
25 Jun 2009 /  #29
The New Miss Hungary, She Wears the Crown of Truth

Krisztina Morvai, MEP for Jobbik

Krisztina Morvai, the attractive Christian nationalist lawyer and head of the Hungarian Jobbik, did not hesitate to reply to a comment by a "proud Hungarian Jew" that she fomented hatred and should be banned from politics:

"I would be greatly pleased if those who call themselves proud Hungarian Jews played in their leisure with their tiny circumcised dicks, instead of besmirching me. Your kind of people are used to seeing all of our kind of people stand to attention and adjust to you every time you fart. Would you kindly acknowledge this is now OVER. We have raised our head up high and we shall no longer tolerate your kind of terror. We shall take back our country."
OP Bondi 4 | 142  
27 Jun 2009 /  #30
Someone has deleted my post above for no reason -- but was silly enough to leave the replies of Crow and Babinich... They are quoting me, but my post that they are referring to has disappeared. At least you'd do your job properly.

@Crow:
I would even agree except that we can't say that Scythians (and Sarmatians) were Slavic. Scythians were from Asia, some of them fled to Europe but most of them were vassals of the Hun Empire.

And the Serbian "empire" (kingdom) fell under Ottoman rule ("were eaten by the Ottomans", to use your wording) and could not recover until the late 18th century.

I do not believe the penalty for "not being polite" by breaking an alliance, an alliance with the devil, should be the systematic liquidation of the citizenry.

To put it plainly: so we should have let the angelic Soviets come in freely to rape and slaughter our land and the rest of Europe.

Well enough.

Dear joepilsudski,

You should have quoted the whole story, as this was just a reply of hers on a mailing list.

The foreign-language journalists "failed" to translate the whole story for some strange reason. The same very strange reason that they were so eager in their English euphemism when they had to translate the ominous foul-mouthed speech of Gyurcsány back in 2006. Now, they are vulgar in their translations world-wide when it comes to someone who they do not like.

As it was the originator himself who signed his defecating email as "One of Our Kind in Your Kind = a Proud Hungarian Jew" ("Egy Magukfajta Magunkfajta = Buszke MAGYAR ZSIDO"). In a witted form, she just re-used his own wording in her reply!

And the unbiased translation of her reply is:

I would be very pleased if those ones who call themselves "proud Hungarian jews" played with their own cut willies in their spare time instead of abusing me.

Your kind got into the habit of breaking a wind to get our kind to stand to the attention and adjust to you. Would you please understand: this is OVER!!!! We have raised our heads and will not any longer tolerate the terror from your kind. We will take back our homeland!

Note 1: willy - originally in Hungarian: farkinca ("little tail", ogonek)
Note 2: to break a wind - originally in Hungarian: szellenteni

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