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America: Take your missile base and shove it!


ski  7 | 140  
12 Jul 2008 /  #31
Shiled is good for Poland. Russia treats Poland as part of their zone. No body serious is thinking about real terrist assalut in Poland.

missewa Yesterday, 19:28

topic started at 4 am :)

Poland should take this shiled, because it is good business. Or go to next dicsussion with constantine "If Putin would be good president of Poland."

Other european countries have NATO bases in thier countries. It is NATO project after peak in Romania. I don't want Poland to be unarmed buffor.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
12 Jul 2008 /  #32
Poland should take this shiled, because it is good business

Didnt you rant against foreign investment?
lesser  4 | 1311  
12 Jul 2008 /  #33
Poland should take this shiled, because it is good business.

Why this is good business?
celinski  31 | 1258  
12 Jul 2008 /  #34
What a fikle bunch some of us are

This is what makes this group great.
ski  7 | 140  
12 Jul 2008 /  #35
Why this is good business?

We don't pay for it, maybe we will recive something additional. Americans build shiled protecting them and europe. In other european countries there are bases with American nukes etc. We are part of NATO, we have the right to have NATO base in Poland. Or we are going to be unarmed buffor between Russia and West. Everybody will ask Russians if it is possible to build something.

It is good business to be pernamnet member of western world.

It is good business for both Americans and us.

I want this shiled.
Franek  8 | 271  
12 Jul 2008 /  #36
Remember it was Poland that asked for our help, now it's a matter of how much help we can give.

Cel.. I am not familiar with the politics in this matter.. You are probably right.. I don't know..

But!, With out a doubt.. The first strike will be on the missile bases... You know that we have a saying here in America..

NOT IN MY BACK YARD. So why should Poland or anyone else be at risk because of those IDIOTS that we chose as our leaders.

The approval rating for our congress is down to 9%.. The American are getting pi***d off.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
12 Jul 2008 /  #37
The American are getting pi***d off

We have a saying in England - when you sh!t your draws, youre always the last to smell it
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
12 Jul 2008 /  #38
we will recive something additional.

We will recieve ****, that's obvious.

Or we are going to be unarmed buffor between Russia and West.

Or maybe we should spend a few billion more a year and arm ourselves for our own money.
celinski  31 | 1258  
12 Jul 2008 /  #39
So why should Poland or anyone else be at risk because of those IDIOTS that we chose as our leaders.

This has more to do with America owing Poland for they are there every time we needed them. If Poland does not get this with our help they will not be able to defend from (shall I say others) who feel they still own Poland.

The first strike will be on the missile bases

And who shall be manning this shield? You got it, good old US military until Poland feels confident in running it themselves.
ski  7 | 140  
12 Jul 2008 /  #40
Or maybe we should spend a few billion more a year and arm ourselves for our own money.

we should build base and spend one bilion more :P

I am not sure if this project is against Iran. I'd prefere to have this base in Poland.

Like Italians have or other old Nato members.
Franek  8 | 271  
12 Jul 2008 /  #41
We have a saying in England - when you sh!t your draws, you re always the last to smell it

Now here is a brilliant remark. Geeeze !, what a stroke of genius.
lesser  4 | 1311  
12 Jul 2008 /  #42
We don't pay for it, maybe we will recive something additional.

I'm sure that Greg's dog could leave something free of charge and additional in your home. :)

We are part of NATO, we have the right to have NATO base in Poland.

Our army is a part of NATO troops, so automatically we have NATO bases on our territory. Beside of that, this is not NATO project.

Or we can be country form 1700's without army.

Base or lack of army. Interesting alternative!

Everybody will ask Russians if it is possible to build something.

We could ask them how much they would be willing to pay to us ( of course before) if we reject American proposal.

It is good business to be pernamnet member of western world.

This is cultural issue not military.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
12 Jul 2008 /  #43
Yup. We smart in England, which is why you speak OUR language :)
ski  7 | 140  
12 Jul 2008 /  #44
Beside of that, this is not NATO project.

After summit in Romania it is NATO project.

We could ask them how much they would be willing to pay to us ( of course before) if we reject American proposal.

Free trip to guag :)
Franek  8 | 271  
12 Jul 2008 /  #45
Yup. We smart in England,

Youse is smart.. We uns are dumb..

My God boy.. How old are you? You had better go to school.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
12 Jul 2008 /  #46
How old are you?

Ive already answered that question for youse.

Are youse feeling uncomfortable about your age?
celinski  31 | 1258  
12 Jul 2008 /  #47
This is cultural issue not military.

Really it is both. Protection is of the utmost importance to Poland. It's a lesson we have learned the hard way. Protect the country. This is why telling a country to "Take your missile base and shove it!" is ignorant. The more Russia threaten's the more Poland should comprehend the dire need.
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
12 Jul 2008 /  #48
Protect the country.

Which country would that be ?
eagle  - | 29  
12 Jul 2008 /  #49
Iran too needs a missile shield esp as Israel and US plan to attack. Any offers?
Franek  8 | 271  
12 Jul 2008 /  #50
Cel.. I just hope that you are right in your way of thinking..I wish you guy's the best of luck.

Just hope that what happened to we Americans by our leaders, does not happen to you..

We were lied to..They should have been impeached long ago.

POLITICS!! It sucks
eagle  - | 29  
12 Jul 2008 /  #51
This whole missile shield/interceptor issue should,if both the Polish?/Czech gov'ts claim to be democratic and have the ordinary people's interests at heart,be put to a referendum so the majority decide. Cant trust our leaders anymore these days.
VaFunkoolo  6 | 654  
12 Jul 2008 /  #52
Yes. Sort of agree. But then we did apparently vote for our leaders too which would suggest we dont really know what we are doing...
eagle  - | 29  
12 Jul 2008 /  #53
We're conned which's why we'd reclaim sum of the power that we vested into them.You'd also say we gave them the benefit of the doubt then but all's been revealed. Power back to the people I say..
celinski  31 | 1258  
12 Jul 2008 /  #54
Which country would that be ?

Poland

We were lied to..

I aggree 110% but thats a differant subject.

Iran too needs a missile shield esp as Israel and US plan to attack.

Yes, as a matter of fact 6 months ago Putin said they were getting the one Russia just came out with.
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
12 Jul 2008 /  #55
the decision should be made based on facts and not superstitions and disinformation

notice the first word of your next? talk about disinformation...

Supposedly they were originally offered with Iran and technology transfers from N Korea etc.

he is suddenly vehemently opposed. Why does he care, I ask?

Better question is why should the u.s. policy makers care enough to try and put this base in poland hmmm? you seem like a good guy john p. but the notion that u.s. interests aren't first and foremost behind american initiatives is laughable imho and i wonder if you simply choose not to acknowledge this or simply choose to beleive something to the contrary.

The more Russia threaten's the more Poland should comprehend the dire need.

no one's threatening anybody, russian leaders aren't thrilled with such a close american prescense, i can't believe this comes as a shock to you. if russia put up some missles in canada do you think american leaders would just shut up about it? or maybe cuba;)

If Poland does not get this with our help they will not be able to defend from (shall I say others) who feel they still own Poland.

American foreign policy is the one actively keeping the american military extended far beyond your country's borders i'd say look to your own as far that accusation is concerned. and please, break free from this time capsule mentality, russian leaders are in no hurry to try and gobble up an eu state, the idea is just silly.
Bartolome  2 | 1083  
12 Jul 2008 /  #56
Shiled is good for Poland. Russia treats Poland as part of their zone. No body serious is thinking about real terrist assalut in Poland.

Have you checked out the news ? Russians are already turning down the oil tap for Czechs. As long as we're dependent on Russians when it goes for oil and gas supply, we must play safe - and this rocket shield is going to make them even more paranoid than they are now. Besides we should concentrate on strengthening European unity, and not allow ourselves to become American puppets. Poland has never been lucky with her alliances. The USA is no exception here. They don't give a f...k about us. We even still need visas to travel to their country. Polish PM announced withdrawal from Iraq for autumn this year and I hope it would commence as it was promised.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
12 Jul 2008 /  #57
Poles have no quarrel with Iran, so let some other country that does, like Israel host this missile base.
Poland doesn't need to be told what to do by Neocons like Sikorski and Con Rice who want a never ending war with Iran.

what makes me laugh about people like you is that you thinking is so short term, what would happen if mother russia one day decided to take what she thinks is rightfully hers??? how would you go running to then?? probably the same people who are setting up these bases.

THe more security there is the less likely any of these out of control maniacs in the far east etc are likely to kick off :)
OP missewa  3 | 20  
12 Jul 2008 /  #58
Russians are Slavs just like Polish. Same culture, same people. I'm not talking about the rest of the former USSR. Can you say the same about American troops? Of course not.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
12 Jul 2008 /  #59
what does it matter if people are the same or different?? what does that have to have with where a strategic base is placed??? what the American soldiers don't go round shaking the hands of every Polak around the place, what they don't intergrate very well??? lol
OP missewa  3 | 20  
12 Jul 2008 /  #60
I'm saying the Neocons are trying to divide traditional Slavic brothers by placing their troops and missile bases in countries that they don't belong.

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