Patrycja19 63 | 2,699 30 May 2007 / #1I dont know about anyone else who lives in America, those visiting America fromPoland, but our gas prices keep going up..the other day I flipped my lid at a gas station, I know this doesnt solve anythingbut I felt better after I said something to the attendant who is probably partowner, and said you would be gas gougeing now would you?? cause its prettysad that gas prices go up and people who are in a worse situation then somecant even buy it to go to the store to buy food.. isnt that sad??to me its sad, the whole idea of it. I had planned to go north this summer, I reallydont think that will happen..travel/tourism goes down when the prices go up, so why would they do this tospite themselfs?? or is it one mans doing?what is the gas prices like in poland? are you suffering along with us?what about the UK ???heck with it, whats it like all over?? everyone got something to say about this??Please vent!! :)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161 30 May 2007 / #2but our gas prices keep going up..It's about 1/3 of the price in EU.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510 30 May 2007 / #3yeah... i watched the prices fluctuate whilst on my road trip... but america has it cheap when it comes to motoring... it cost the same # in $ to fill my big-mobile as it does in £ to fill my coupe over here... dang dawg, thats boo'shee'...
hello 22 | 891 30 May 2007 / #4Some people say that in the US gas prices are still "cheap" compared to Europe.That may relatively be true - but how many miles on average an European person does compared to a person from the US? I think people from Europe do a lot less miles annually compared to those from the US or Canada.
szarlotka 8 | 2,208 30 May 2007 / #5but our gas prices keep going up..There are a number of reasons why even US gas prices are increasing at present. Political instability in Iraq and Nigeria (production is down by over 600,000 barrels a day because of the wave of kidnappings and the success of the local insurgents in Nigeria). Also many US refineries are having extended maintenance and shut downs. There are a lot of tankers being diverted from Holland as I write to replenish US stocks. Bottom line is there is a supply shortage. Bad news is we in the UK will be paying over £1 a litre very soon.
clunkshift 2 | 82 31 May 2007 / #6what is the gas prices like in poland? are you suffering along with us?what about the UK ???The UK is bad because of high taxes (Spanish diesel is almost 50% less) but Poland is nearly as expensive as the UK.I agree with Szarlotka’s view on current situation and the bad news is that it won’t improve for gasoline.US refineries have been holding back on low sulphur fuel for a number of reasons but they are now catching up and adding extra hydrotreaters etc by extending regular shutdowns or cutting output to add new plant – so the production costs have risen.For many reasons, not least increasing competition, market prices of crude have risen; increasing material costs.Oil producers are now refining more light crude rather than exporting it, forcing net importers to buy refined products which are much more expensive, or high sulphur crudes which require more refining.You can make gasoline from coal but it’s not a cheap option, so will only happen when gas prices make it worthwhile. Gas rich countries use gas-to-liquid technology, but that is expensive too.Oh - please don't invade Venezuela - or Canada it will only cause trouble :)The bottom line is we all need to use less gas, which is why Europe uses far more diesel than the US – an 85 cu in diesel car has four times the gas mileage of a 300 cu in V8 on gas
beckski 12 | 1,617 20 Jun 2007 / #7but our gas prices keep going up..Hi Patrycja,I was really surprised to see the price finally go down this week in S. California. The average price is now a little below the $3.00 per gallon mark.
OP Patrycja19 63 | 2,699 20 Jun 2007 / #8mine today was between 3.10-3.04$ a gallon..last week it was under 3.00$ in some places in Michigan..
Ranj 21 | 948 21 Jun 2007 / #12$2.84 in Indy.....Didn't realize that most of our oil comes from Canada.Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 CountriesApril 2007 Import Highlights: Released on June 11, 2007Preliminary monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in April 2007 has been released and it shows that three countries have each exported more than 1.40 million barrels per day to the United States. Including those countries, a total of four countries exported over 1.00 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top five exporting countries accounted for 68 percent of United States crude oil imports in March while the top ten sources accounted for approximately 88 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports. The top sources of US crude oil imports for April were Canada (1.909 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.460 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.458 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.182 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.891 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Iraq (0.562 million barrels per day), Algeria (0.530 million barrels per day), Angola (0.514 million barrels per day), Russia (0.269 million barrels per day), and Brazil (0.175 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 10.181 million barrels per day in April, which is a decrease of 0.167 million barrels per day from March 2007.Canada remained the largest exporter of total petroleum in April, exporting 2.475 million barrels per day to the United States, which was an increase from last month (2.305 thousand barrels per day). The second largest exporter of total petroleum was Mexico with 1.572 million barrels per day.Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)(Thousand Barrels per Day)Country Apr-07 Mar-07 YTD 2007 Apr-06 Jan - Apr 2006---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------CANADA 1,909 1,780 1,846 1,710 1,726MEXICO 1,460 1,621 1,471 1,601 1,692SAUDI ARABIA 1,458 1,216 1,358 1,582 1,413VENEZUELA 1,182 1,036 1,070 1,171 1,190NIGERIA 891 1,290 1,089 1,022 1,149IRAQ 562 523 488 531 498ALGERIA 530 501 495 256 235ANGOLA 514 696 556 389 446RUSSIA 269 193 137 0 19BRAZIL 175 209 174 111 114ECUADOR 159 191 200 312 289CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 138 79 78 33 16KUWAIT 126 288 187 225 139UNITED KINGDOM 119 77 97 169 108GABON 92 48 60 33 53Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)(Thousand Barrels per Day)Country Apr-07 Mar-07 YTD 2007 Apr-06 Jan - Apr 2006---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------CANADA 2,475 2,305 2,424 2,238 2,266MEXICO 1,572 1,749 1,601 1,750 1,805SAUDI ARABIA 1,485 1,244 1,378 1,595 1,443VENEZUELA 1,412 1,285 1,311 1,393 1,485NIGERIA 948 1,346 1,135 1,098 1,211ALGERIA 798 727 718 543 528IRAQ 562 523 488 531 498RUSSIA 547 455 400 218 239ANGOLA 526 708 571 419 463UNITED KINGDOM 386 292 285 315 252VIRGIN ISLANDS 322 349 353 239 283BRAZIL 246 234 222 169 167NORWAY 198 164 150 206 205KOREA, SOUTH 184 164 136 106 65ECUADOR 159 191 202 319 295Note: The data in the tables above exclude oil imports into the U.S. territories.
clunkshift 2 | 82 21 Jun 2007 / #13Comparative fuel prices in April 2007 - Source Automobile AssociationPrice per litre in EurosCountry Gasoline / DieselAustria 1.06 / 0.97Belgium 1.36 / 1.07Finland 1.29 / 0.99Germany 1.32 / 1.13Greece 0.96 / 0.93Netherlands 1.47 / 1.08Italy 1.27 / 1.18Luxembourg 1.13 / 0.90Spain 1.01 / 0.93France 1.27 / 1.06Ireland 1.11 / 1.07Portugal 1.30 / 1.04Sweden 1.33 / 1.20Estonia 0.89 / 0.87Latvia 0.98 / 0.93Lithuania 0.92 / 0.87Slovakia 1.16 / 1.15Switzerland 1.06 / 1.09United Kingdom 1.38 / 1.42United States 0.58 / 0.58Norway 1.49 / 1.37Poland 1.16 / 1.01Hungary 1.16 / 1.10Czech Republic 1.05 / 1.02Denmark 1.42 / 1.21When you read the list, bear in mind that unlike the US, Norway is a net exporter of oil products!
TheKruk 3 | 308 21 Jun 2007 / #14I usually tell my friends in America when they complain about the price of fuel what they pay here and that shuts them up pretty quick. yeah it sucks but Americans need to drive smaller cars like in europe. Los Angeles is the worst there are millions of Sport utility Vehicles with one person in them, and they never go off-roading in them.The States lags so far behind europe as far as conservation we can't even see the exhaust. There are a few who have converted to bio-diesel. And electris or hybrids are expensive and the waiting list for a new one is very long. Its obvious the oil industry controls America. its amazing how backward such a developed country can be.
krysia 23 | 3,058 21 Jun 2007 / #15yeah it sucks but Americans need to drive smaller cars like in europe.They wouldn't fit in themIn the states you need a car because the distances are far, while in Europe you can hop on the bus, tramway, train, metro.its amazing how backward such a developed country can be.All vehicles in the US are equiped with emission control catalytic converters, not seen much in Europe.
peterweg 37 | 2,319 21 Jun 2007 / #16When you read the list, bear in mind that unlike the US, Norway is a net exporter of oil products!So, just about, is the UK.The prices are to keep consumption down and efficiency up. The US ignored the oil shock of 1973 and allowed sprawling urbanisation. The UK aimed for oil efficiency and has built a tax buffer to absorb future price rises. Its taxation as a defensive weapon and driver of social changeAll vehicles in the US are equiped with emission control catalytic converters, not seen much in Europe.Bollocks, all EU cars have Cats and have done for many years.
nauczyciel 21 Jun 2007 / #17how nice of you to yell at the retailer. :( a class act. He has no choice on what the giant corps sell the product for. he makes a few cents on each gallon/liter. a few cents. 1-3. out of which he must pay his staff, rent, all costs related to the business.and to think that oil came from dinosaurs is ridiculous.it makes me furious when ppl gladly pay $4-5 for a 300-500ml cup of coffee or $3-4 for a gallon of milk,
389 4 | 31 21 Jun 2007 / #18Here in NY, average gas price is about 3.30 i would say for the regular of course.My ride is 8 cylinder so you already know i'm suffering big time.But i got a dealer who gets me discount fortunately,he lets me fill up for 75% of the price.He should really be filling up for half the price, but its his and its his choice so he only fills up for me for 75% which is way better then what everybody else pays.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702 21 Jun 2007 / #20Well in the uk its about £1.90 for unleadedwhich at current exchange = about $3.90
389 4 | 31 21 Jun 2007 / #21^^ Huge difference between me and you.Its relatively low as well in New Jersey, something like 2.70 or so which makes you wonder for someone like me who lives in NY, is it worth going in jersey to fill up the tank because its so much cheaper?But then by the time you come back 1/4 would be wasted.So at the end, it does not really worth doing that,unless you happen to be heading towards NJ, than yes it is worth filling up for much cheaper price.
jnowiski 2 | 121 21 Jun 2007 / #22maybe you could bring a gas can and fill up a bunch! haha. no, i don't think i'd be worth it unless you were travelling there or through there.
389 4 | 31 21 Jun 2007 / #23Yea i thought about that.I said i should bring a huge can that can fill up 200 gallons or something and i be set for one good month.But its a lot of headache and stuff :P
Shawn_H 21 Jun 2007 / #24$1.03 / L near Toronto this evening.It seems that EVERY gas station on the way home sells at exactly the SAME price ALL DAY. Before Katrina hit the price of gas would be 10 - 12 cents per litre more expensive in the morning and drop by 10 pm to the lowest level of the day. Back then, people would yell "COLLUSION!!!", governments would look at it (and based on the taxes they collect) would say "no collusion". Now the gas stations don't dare drop it below the $1.01 mark... What changed? Why the "stability" price compared to before Katrina.
JumpinJuniper 1 | 21 3 Feb 2008 / #25Im suprised Canada isnt more independent w/ oil, meaning lower costs. Didnt you guys discover an oil vein spanning 2/3rds the north country? able to supply N. America for several hundred years?
szarlotka 8 | 2,208 4 Feb 2008 / #27£1.08 a litre over here in rip off Britain. Mind you that's cheaper than mineral water in most restaurants
z_darius 14 | 3,968 4 Feb 2008 / #28$0.97/liter in Niagara but some people still go to the US to fill'er up. A $75 tank of gas in Niagara will cost about $45 just across the border. Silly feeling to think that gas across the border is actually Canadian and we pay more for it here.
plk123 8 | 4,148 4 Feb 2008 / #29~$3/GAL and we're on a pipeline from galveston so our gas is from other sources the canada.