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Lonestranger  
26 Dec 2006 /  #121
I'm a polish...I'm a man...I'm not surprised by the comments u put!

Everybody has the right to speak up... and ur mentality is superbly racist my friend!(alas!). In today's world, we cannot behave the same as we did in the dark ages. We need to open up. No one should look down upon anything that does not harm anybody, but only gives a world a fresh breath!

There is no use whatsoever to argue with you, as I know that you belong to a certain think group, who will keep echoing these words forever. In vain.

Give your life, human emotions, humanity, and love a good deep thought.

Do you know, in your Christmas dinner table, you disscussed a matter due to which Jesus of Nazareth was martyred?... Do you know that Jesus was a Palestinian?...He was from the Carpenter class, which belongs to one of the lower layers of palestinian society. Their ancient roots belong to Sudanese and Egyptian races. Considerably darker than the Pictograph/Statue we have created, so carefully!...

I have no wish to argue... a glass already filled with stagnant water, cant be filled more with the water from the 'Fountain of the Lord' ... for that, you need a mind empty of Pride, Jealousy, Mistrust and everything material.

Live and let live...bye
Maati 1 | 178  
26 Dec 2006 /  #122
I am Polish too.
M

My bf's ancestor (greatgrandmother probably) was raped by a White Master. Now, everybody in his family, including him has blue-light eyes and British (? ) lastname McLean...Kind of ironic...
Lonestranger  
26 Dec 2006 /  #123
glad to know...lol...

Polish people are generally warm, tolerant and wise. They know how it is to be subjected to racism. They know how it is to be segretated... they know how to learn good things and update their charectar, with regards to time...

being a human is more important... and Poland is a part of the same mother earth we all live in....if you love your mother...love her completely....or dont love her at all.
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #124
My bf's ancestor (greatgrandmother probably) was raped by a White Master. Now, everybody in his family, including him has blue-light eyes and British (? ) lastname McLean...Kind of ironic...

This also happened to 90% of all the other slaves....very common. All slaves took the surname of their owner.
josecitomadera  
26 Dec 2006 /  #125
I've always had a crush on Halle. Prob the sexiest black woman

Halle like Tiger Woods aren't black. They're mulatto.

I'll place this somewhere else
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #126
Whatever...... boze. If she consideres herself a black woman, then I think she's a sexy black woman.
Maati 1 | 178  
26 Dec 2006 /  #127
Yeah, I know... My bf is the one in the family, who changed his slave-name.
The rest is "brainwashed" , in his opinion of course :)
I know many Black ppl, who were born in America but have kind of indentity crisis, because they would love to be Africans but they are more American than they may know.

That is a very sad thing, really...
I was studying Polish Philology in Warsaw.You would be surprised how many Polish second names were given us by our opressors during partition of Poland.It's good to read history of Polish language books...
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #128
LOL all of the black people I know would rather live in America but at least travel to Africa to see the motherland. They're better off here anyway.
josecitomadera  
26 Dec 2006 /  #129
Poles have tried to preserve their identity for a 1000 years. The german's have tried to exterminate the slavs in WWII. Some people maye feel a duty to preserve this slavic identity and culture.

Would you extend the same courtesy to gypsies?

I for one invite all polish men to date, mix and marry puertorican girls. Hey J-Lo is hot, don't you think??
Lonestranger  
26 Dec 2006 /  #130
how come USA is not the motherland of the blacks living there for centuries, while USA is the motherland of whites migrated from west europe!

And have you heard that Polish were (sometimes still are, by some people) called the White ******* of Europe:

poloniatoday.com/blacksons0404.htm

However, I read this same thing in many places aswell.

And more history for th Poles,

indiatime.com/archives/2004/12/a_little_poland.html
polesinindia.org/poles_in_india_page_1.htm

I found the above links today...

I can say onething... Poland likes color~~~
josecitomadera  
26 Dec 2006 /  #131
From the article quoted in the above post by Lonestranger. That is fascinating stuff there. In the Poloniatoday.com article it states, "There was a dramatic shortage of Polish brides and Poles were very often called “white nyggers; by the WASPs, settlers of White Anglo-Saxon Protestant origin. Hence, the Poles often chose Black women, sharing almost the same social status. "

EXTREMELY FASCINATING. I always felt endeared to the Polish people who were looked down upon by the Germans and the Russians in their respective invasions during WW2. It's sad that the racist mindset still exists today. Why are we young people mirroring the evil of the past? What do you think Lonestranger about that?

The Germans thought they were the Master Race and considered themselves superior to Slavs (Russians and Poles). The Russians considered themselves superior to Poles. Where does this chain of hate lead to?

Science tells us that homo sapiens came from Africa and our earliest apelike ancestors are about 5-7 millions years old. So all the way back we're just a bunch of apes. The first humans to leave Africa were black probably. So we all got black in us even the "Master Teutonic Race".
Maati 1 | 178  
26 Dec 2006 /  #132
Yeah, exactly...After all we ,as a nation, went through, some of the folks are just repeating nazi behaviour. It does not make sense to me at all...

I think different ethinicity, different eye or skin colour, shouldn't be a problem as well. The culture, customs and heritage is the most important.

I have two mixed-race children and they really feel they are Polish, not American or Carribean.
My 4 y.o daughter said to me this Xmas - Jestem PolkÄ….
I didn't teach her this.It was her own initiative statement.

I think she being 4 y.o now also has a wider multicultural and multilingual perspective than many older folks including antropologists and extereme-nationalists.

As a Polish woman and Polish Philology graduate I indentificate myself with these words by Bob Marley:

Until the philosophy which hold one race
Superior and another inferior
Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned
Everywhere is war, me say war

That until there are no longer first class
And second class citizens of any nation
Until the colour of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes
Me say war

That until the basic human rights are equally
Guaranteed to all, without regard to race
Dis a war
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6146  
26 Dec 2006 /  #133
I always felt endeared to the Polish people who were looked down upon by the Germans and the Russians in their respective invasions during WW2.

Never heard of Russians looking down on Poles.

We protected our national identity from the Nazis, but are we now giving it up to interacial marriages and McDonalds?

Says a guy from America :)
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #134
I don't know many people in the US that's bothered by interracial marriage. Love is love. Most of these Americans are rednecks anyway.
guest3  
26 Dec 2006 /  #135
Josecitomadera.

I would extend the right to preserve culture to any people. The Gypsses included. I don't have a problem with any cultures and I don't think white culture or the white race is superior.

I am not understanding your point about the evolution of the species? We are all the same species, but have different charachteristics. You need to read something about genetics. It is a paradox, but our different charactheristics have been created because for years we have been isolated and forced to breed amongts people with similar charachteristics. If we all just interbreed, then those special charachteristics will dissappear. So your diatribe about enjoying the corocopia of the race is short sighted.

Lonely Stranger:

I am not looking down on any culture. I am not hating on other races. I am hating on the ignorant Poles who so quickly throw their identity and culture away in order to fit in with the west.

I read that article, those half black Poles are more Polish then you and I becuase they went back to Poland to fight and protect its culture! I am proud of them.

But lets face it Poland is a polish, white, and catholic country. Our people have certain national identity. I can spot a Polak from a mile away. Isn't at least something of the national identity worth preserving? Crude example, but lets say 40 million green martians move to Poland tommorrow and start speaking Polish and drinking Polish beer. Is Poland still Polish?

Poland is not a melting pot like America. I have lived in the US for 23 years and I still have not placed my finger on what exactly american culture is. I ask American's what american food is and they aren't really sure. Do you want Poland to become like that?

Do we have to become a melting pot?

I can say onething... Poland likes color~~~

Well thats just it! Thats exaclty the attitude that I am talking about! This fake rush to become a multiethnic and multicultural society.

Poland does not have to like color to be a tolerannt place. Poland should be neutral on the question of color. Just like any unbiased employer and jury.

You are very naive Lonely Stranger. You think your attitude has been brought on by some higher ethical and moral code.

Your attitude has been cultivated by corporations and big business. Another crude example, but this is one I have read about. For christ's sake why would Mcdonalds want you to preserve the Polish kitchen. If you do that, you might not go to Mcdonald as much.

This happens all the time. Small mom and pop coffee shops in France being pushed out of business by starbucks. They were part of frenc culture.

On to how this applies to preservation of the Polish identity and culture:

In 2050 when the Polish poulation falls to 32 Million and 30% of Poles will be over the age of 65, big business will invite in millions of immigrants who will have an irreversible impact on our national identity and culture. See the situation in Sweden and England! One in ten swedes are now muslim and there are more registeried muslims in London than registedered people for the Church of England. PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!

Yes my narrow minded friend. The business people like to keep you dumb and ignorant becuase your resistance to change would prevent them from making big money. People all accross europe think the flow of immigrations is too much. People in Europe are overwhelmingly against Turkey joining the EU. The people wonder why the goverments continue to negotiate with Turkey and why they continue to let so many immigrnats in. MONEY IS TO BE MADE FROM CHEAP LABOR!!!

Yes, big business will let Poland be partitioned just like the rich nobles did 200 years ago. And you my friend will stand by and watch. At least I am trying to make a difference by remininding Poles that they should not be so quick to intermarry and devalue their own culture!!! And if you do intermarry, then you must educate your children. Whether the kid is half black, english, or mongolian. Too many times Polish parents fail to instill these values in their kids. Education is most important!!!

Finally, as I said before, other people in the States and I have noticed a trend in the new young Poles coming here to the States. As soon as they get off the plane they jump on the first non-white peron they see. (not all of course, but many) I submit that they are not neutral about the question of race. They are seeking something else because they are disapointed with Poland and its goverment. Their negative attitude towards Poland, their choice to stay in the US, or their choice to marry foereigner's will dilute the polish national identity and culture. I am simply suggesting that Polish people consider their national identity and culture before they make such decisions. Moving to America and marrying a black girl in Louisiana may seem a good idea when you are in love. But what about the kids? Would that black girl ever consider moving back to Poland? Will she even give two shits about raising your kids with a Polish background. If so, great carry on... If not, then you should think twice, three times, and four times.

The trend I am noticing is that Poles think their own culture is crap and any other experience must be so much better. My Spaniard and Fench friends come to america and hang out at european clubs, wear european clothes, and always tell them how great their countries are. As I said, the young polish come here and some say that Poland is drab and talk how the Poles have screwed everything up back there. They jump on the first non-white, wear baggy jeans, and go to hip hop clubs just cause it is new and different. Pathetic! Have at least some pride, be more european.

Lonely Stranger, I have visited 20 of the 25 best economies in the world.

Keep running towards that corporate beacon of light and culture which is the west. Keep dashing for the cool MTV multi-racial-multi-ethnic culture. When you get there, you will find a KFC on every corner, a 50% divorce rate, and a group of people who are wondering what their national identity and culture is.

Thats right Gregorz, says a guys from America who moved here whne he was 3, speaks fluent Polish and is strogly considering moving back to Poland to apply his profession. I love Poland and anyone who loves Poland as well.

Most of these Americans are rednecks anyway.

Rednecks huh? Anybody who does not agree with you is a redneck?
Ranj 21 | 947  
26 Dec 2006 /  #136
I don't know many people in the US that's bothered by interracial marriage. Love is love. Most of these Americans are rednecks anyway.

I agree because it's been my experience that the one's I have come across are rednecks!

Rednecks huh? Anybody who does not agree with you is a redneck?

He didn't say all were rednecks, although IMO, it's a redneck mentality.
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #137
Rednecks huh? Anybody who does not agree with you is a redneck?

No...that's not what I said. Most people that think like this are.
lonestranger  
26 Dec 2006 /  #138
guest3.

I read your desperate messege. But my dear Polish (are you Polish by the way?) friend, you will fail to stop the people of the world getting nearer to each other. Culture, tradition is never a barrier. It is called diversity in my book! And please read more about Genetics. The more different (diverse) two people are, the better is their issue (children).

Your talk about Divorse rate: Interracial marriages have less divorces!!! And please investigate properly before making a blind comment on something.
All those marriages based on the material only, are destined to fail. Race, Religion and etc have nothing to do with it.

Polish people have a natural inclination towards color. Perhaps some evidence is found on your messege too. So if this is part of the Polish mind and nature, then how can you hate this?...Do you hate the Polish heart then?... On how the Pole thinks, behaves, and lives?...

Let Poland be free... it has always wanted to be free...it has its own heart... which is not as cold as the frosts of West, or as heated as the sands of the East.

I like McDonalds...I like Indian food and movies....I like Nelly Furtado....I like the west...I like the east...I live in my home (I love my home)...I love Poland...

All Human Kind Is One... I welcome you all....wherever you all are from....TO POLAND :)
(by that i dont mean mafias, gangsters and/or extremists)
guest3  
26 Dec 2006 /  #139
I guess according to Time 77% of white americans are rednecks. Anyway thats not the point, in thread 148 I was responding to Lonestranger's and Josecitomadero's comments. Jose is a Puerto Rican who came on this forum to find out about PL culture, but apparently is an expert.
Klaribelle  
26 Dec 2006 /  #140
i like one brown eastern man from university, i think love dont see much color
guest3  
26 Dec 2006 /  #141
And please read more about Genetics. The more different (diverse) two people are, the better is their issue (children).

Yeah I am not asking Poles to marry their cousins!!! There are 39 million poles, there is enough diversity in them to ensure that genetic diseases and disorders do not proliferate.

How are children between races better? I have been reading your mindless rambling about beautiful biracial people on other threads. Ugly parents of different races make ugly kids. The saes as between parents of the same race.

Your talk about Divorse rate: Interracial marriages have less divorces!!!

Please do not infer what I did not say. I never said those marriages fail. I am saying that with globalization comes the loss of traditional values. The polish family has always been a strong instiution. If we rush to match the west, this value may be lost. As it has in many other modern countries. (Some exceptions of course, we should try to emulate those exceptions).

Polish people have a natural inclination towards color.

Hahahaha, talk about unsupported statements. Is that nature or nurture? Dr. Lonestranger explain this one.

The cat is out of the bag in Western Europe. People are actually starting to think about their national identities.

Let Poland be free... it has always wanted to be free...it has its own heart... which is not as cold as the frosts of West, or as heated as the sands of the East.

I like McDonalds...I like Indian food and movies....I like Nelly Furtado....I like the west...I like the east...I live in my home (I love my home)...I love Poland...

All Human Kind Is One... I welcome you all....wherever you all are from....TO POLAND

Dude you gotta lay off the weed and flower designs. You just have different values. You have no interest in preserving what is Polish. I do. We can argue this until the cows come home. Why does the melting pot that is going on in the US have to happen everywhere?

Anyway dude I have to admit that fundamentally I agree with you.

It would be great if things worked like that. But guess what, they don't.

I live in the real world.

If everyone intermingles there will be no diversity. There will be one race and one culture. If you mix all the colors of your pallet, then you will have no way to paint an interesting picture. So all your talk about diversity is short sighted.

Also, how will all of these people mix. Should I refrain from drinking alchohol becuase that might not be accepted by my new countrymen? Should Polish courts respect the right of a husband to kill his wife for cheating, as in other countries?

Please, take a look at what you are saying. You are living in a fairy tale world.
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #142
Why does the melting pot that is going on in the US have to happen everywhere?

Because the world and it's people change over the years....and it would take many years to get to the point where there will only be 1 culture.
guest3  
26 Dec 2006 /  #143
Just because global warming will take many years to become a serious problem does not mean that we should not try to prevent it now.

You agree with that right? Why not with the former?
Zgubiony 15 | 1553  
26 Dec 2006 /  #144
This is true, but another topic :) It's Just a matter of opinion my man. It can be a never ending debate. It makes the world go round. Life would be boring if everyone agreed. I don't like your opinion, but I can respect it.
guest3  
26 Dec 2006 /  #145
Respect Zgubiony
Lonestrangner  
26 Dec 2006 /  #146
I live in the real world.

If everyone intermingles there will be no diversity. There will be one race and one culture. If you mix all the colors of your pallet, then you will have no way to paint an interesting picture. So all your talk about diversity is short sighted.

Also, how will all of these people mix. Should I refrain from drinking alchohol becuase that might not be accepted by my new countrymen? Should Polish courts respect the right of a husband to kill his wife for cheating, as in other countries?

When everyone intermingles (who knows after how long) there will be a new kind of diversity. Our world always keeps itself interesting.

Refraining from Alcohol is not a very bad idea.
Those who kill their wife (i wonder where it happens legally now... I hope you are not being so insane as to think that its a part of eastern. Just like some people in the west still think that we Poles dont have airports...etc) should be punished. And wives who cheat their husband, should be given a trial by the healthy and civilised social structure aswell.

We should follow justice (the rule of law), and move towards making a better society, though justice and equaility between sexes.
josecitomadera  
26 Dec 2006 /  #147
Never heard of Russians looking down on Poles.

Read your history. During WW2, the Russians didn't consider the Poles equal. Though the Russians didn't systematically kill nor did they have such an organized plan for Polish extermination they never saw the Poles as anything more than dogs.

Per Wikipedia "The German Army was sent, as stated by Adolf Hitler in his Armenian quote: "with orders for them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish race and language". Himmler wrote in a May 1940 memorandum. In the same document, he promised to deport all Poles to the east [Russia]. In other statements, he mentioned the future killing fields for all Poles in the Pripet Marshes. Plans for mass transportation and slave labor camps for up to 20 million Poles were made. All were intended to die during the cultivation of the swamps. A bitter note is Hitler's remark that the Poles should be exterminated where they originated in the early medieval age."

The Germans had more hatred for Poles than the racist white Americans could ever have for their black slaves!!!

I am not understanding your point about the evolution of the species?

Why does preservation of a distinct ethnic cultural group have to be systematic? Why can't you just let things be instead of turning it into a nationalist movement?

Nationalist preservationist movements are extremely dangerous. They gave rise to nazism and facism. It's a fine step between national pride and hatred of those "outsiders" trying to "corrupt" an ethnic group. The brand of nationalism that you espouse would be repudiated by any educated person.
Arien  
26 Dec 2006 /  #148
point of this thread? date who you want to date, and if the person in question wants to date you back then it's all gravy. :)

I don't get why you would prefer a polish partner over an american though. unless you're polish yourself. now coincedentally bumping into someone and meeting someone, I can totally understand, and I know sparks happen over the net aswell.

but to actually start looking for someone on the other side of the globe seems a little silly to me. but hey, do whatever you want to do. :)

some people agree, some don't. would you care? I wouldn't. :) so good luck with whatever or whoever it is that you're looking for. :)
Eurola 4 | 1900  
26 Dec 2006 /  #149
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polans_(western)

This is who we are. Our borders were shifted left and right throughout centuries, our women were raped by "darker' invaders, but we're still beautiful, mostly blue eyed nation with identity of its own. A few marriages outside the group will not make us anybody different. Ever. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with a small refreshment of a gene pool.
Dora 2 | 29  
26 Dec 2006 /  #150
Hmmm.... so those white American who don't believe in interracial marriage are rednecks, huh??

That's pretty funny. What do you call the black Americans who don't believe in interracial marriage? There are plenty of black American who don't believe in interracial marriage too!!!

And guess what... interracial marriages break up too.

People with black skin are not common in Poland and I think someone who looks different from you is always interesting and appealing.

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