They cant ban him from working in the EU...They can only ban him from Poland...They were talking shite! England cant ban someone from working in Poland, how the hell would they know if some American was going to work there...
Yes they can. So many people here don't seem to understand Schengen rules. To have open borders, the deal is that a ban from one country counts in all. For that reason, a ban from Poland is a ban from Schengen.
He'll be allowed to come to the UK/Ireland/Cyprus/Romania/Bulgaria - but he's banned from all Schengen member states. There's no guarantee he'll actually get into those countries - UK immigration would be inclined to thoroughly check someone who was currently banned from Schengen due to overstay.
As Harry says, those countries have agreed (as part of Schengen) that they will enforce bans on anyone removed from a Schengen member state. This is part of what makes Schengen work.
This is a huge problem here...their rules are so screwed up and they dont even know them so often that they screw a lot of good people over. I dont support illegal immigration but if you do everything they ask and follow the rules and
He *didn't* follow the rules. He was here after 90 days without a work permit (and was working, something prohibited!) and without a valid residence permit. You're allowed to stay in Schengen for 90 days out of every 180. Therefore, he received a ban.
The rules are pretty straightforward - you come here on a tourist stamp, then you've got 45 days to sort out a work permit and a residence permit in order to complete the paperwork before the 90 day period expires. If you don't comply with them, then you're going to be in trouble if you're caught. Simple.
I honestly don't care...it is simply WRONG to be banned from the entire EU because of POLAND. It makes about as much sense as being kicked out of CarreFour and not being allowed into any shop every again in the entire continent...how dare POLAND say I can't go to Finland, Gemany, Spain etc...they have no claim and its stupid.
It's not about if you care or don't care - the point is that in order to have 'soft' internal borders, there are exceptionally tough punishments for anyone caught breaking the rules.
But the excuse used is some violation of rules in POLAND. Not right or fair to punish you in other places. To not be able to even set foot in another EU nation because of what he went through is just plain stupid and wrong...whether this is the actual case or not I dont know as I have heard others being told they are banned...but dont know anyone who tried to enter after. They claim they flag your details and if you enter a Schengen port you will be denied...again if true its ********...
It is right and fair - Schengen rules are rules, and one of those rules are that if you break the immigration regulations, then you're banned from the entire zone. If you don't like it, don't enter Schengen.
Yes, they'll enter his details onto SIS4All and it should be checked upon entry. There are ways to enter Schengen without too tough checks (via the UK is a easy way, the French rarely conduct systematic checks at Dover) - but even attempting to enter Schengen while banned is enough cause for the state in question to prolong your ban.
There's also the point that Poland may deny a residence permit in future to anyone that has a criminal record in Poland - which is why the poster should be seeking the services of an imimigration lawyer as a priority.
If you break immigration law, what do you expect to happen? To be invited to drink tea with the President?
It's not an excuse: it's a reason. Not that countries need any reason to refuse to allow foreigners into their territory (look at the way some Poles are refused US visas). Personally I'd say that previous violation of law is a fairly good indication of future behaviour. This guy has already got form for working while on a tourist visa....
You're much more of an expert than me, do you know what his chances are of actually getting a residence permit (or even visa-free entry?) after his ban is up?