History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


sure it happened. i know the facts too. question is though WHY they did get expelled in the first place? whose land it was originally and how they got it...

why do you constantly ignore that this coin has two sides too?

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

i'm really sorry that you guys had to go through that apparently the whole night.

BB seems to like twisting history as it suits his views and only randomly relating to other peoples posts as in some points you guys actually make good points.

i am sorry that he is attacking your nation verbally and plays the "superior german" game all the time. please do not give in and lower yourself at his level as this would just mean we all normal people go backwards...

i'm embarrassed that BB is actually living in my hometown and he should know better but i wrote already about his resistance to understand (and accept) the obvious...

i can only hope that your views of todays germany are not getting blurred by the way BB tries to show it. he might consider himself a good and representative german, 70 years ago many people in germany would have agreed... today he is part of a desperate minority...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

:-)
good morning...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


i do not understand why our chancellor is in favour of this centre especially after the very recent things going on between our two countries. it looks like there is a lack of sensibility...


and that is one of the reasons why the centre is very controversial...
you would expect our gov though to back off in face of these facts. not to do so simply shows how bad the current gov in germany actually is...

we should not forget though that we talk about a rather small centre/museum which will loose initial attention relatively quickly ( iam not saying that to justify it!) and we should not make it bigger in this discussion than it actually is...

the whole thing makes me shake my head really...

not so much because one or the other in here is right or wrong but more because i think a different approach is needed within europe at all...

edit


well said... and true...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


sure...

or if you said somewhere earlier...

"you wish!" ;-)

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

bockwurst...

do you really believe that nationalistic people like you are the future for germany?
do you really think that you have anything serious to contribute to our culture?
has germany not gone through all this once already?
don't you think that the intelligence in germany will prevent this aggression against our neighbours that you represent?
isn't it people like you and the likes of you that always only make it into the media for any violent acts against foreigners (amongst others) for example?

do you really believe that anybody is taking these people serious through these acts?
do you believe that on here people take you serious?

i mean... wake up, boy!

btw i do not hate east germans as large parts of my family live there. what i certainly DO hate is uprising of far right nazi tendencies amongst low educated visionless unemployed young people who follow the wrong idols...


i like that... having a period of time named after me... it is going to end?? i don't think so...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


dream on...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


i assume that labels the army of unemployed peole in east germany who at this moment have pretty much nothing to "do"?
unless you specifiy "we" a bit more, in which case i would apologise...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]


so not me... lol

but okay... i have my image of you and you have yours of mine...
let's just leave it like that we're most certainly not changing each others opinion...

Love / How to go about dating a polish girfriend? [27]


(@used: this is not addressed only to you but your quote was just suitable...)

apart from the fact that it is not limited to polish girls (as was already mentioned here) i am interested in something else...

what kind of men are out there that you all can't deal with that?
it is normal and not even bad that everyone tries to gain the most for themselves. completely understandable that many girls are after material stuff, who wouldn't? if i knew that i only had to ask for something to get... i certainly would ask.

guys, there is a certain element of educating and getting to know each others ways in every relationship.

my girlfriend (yes, she is polish) does the same if we go shopping. it isa case of telling things as they are. i.d rather spend money to help her get a better job. i simply explain that if she wants all these nice things she needs to help with the money earning thing as it doesn't grow on trees...

then there is another element to relationships where greed (in the extreme case) seems to be an issue...
i am not the very best housekeeper but my gf enjoys housework (to an extent!). this frees up my time and mind to my work and earn money... housework is work too. doesn't she deserve to be rewarded from time to time?

and finally it makes me happy to see the sparkle in her eyes when i buy something nice (sometimes a bunch of flowers works the trick already as it shows that i care).

yes, she was coming from a rather poor background but i made this money thing clear quite early, not because i had too but because i wanted to. i want a partner who feels equal.

i know that it is tempting to throw the money out and act as "the man", but in the long term that doesn't work. yes. from time to time it is a good thing. but if you come to the roint that your girl is expecting you to spend money on her, simply say no and explain. the earlier the better...

if she doesn't like it and dumps you for that... it wasn't worth it anyway, right?

as the beatles sang: "money can't buy me love"...

History / Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland? [510]

okay... i held myself out of that discussion for quite a while now to simply see where it would turn...

i like what i see.
isthatu and southern, you two made some good points and seem to be of the rather clever sort of people at pf. especially southerns last few posts i would 100% agree with. they could have been written by myself... ;)

have a nice christmas all next week!! :D

Real Estate / I am English, 40, want to sell my home and move to Poland [17]

get in touch with wildrover and follow his advice if you are thinking of a carreer change anyway. he seems to be a good bloke and might give you some valuable hints on how to get started...

most important though... don't rush into things...

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


thanks for clearing that up...

very good answer to the original topic from osiol, by the way...


that might be as he apparently lost track of his topic...

britain has a lot to offer by the way, not only for poles, or workers as was mentioned somewhere before...

osiol has pointed many things out very nicely. and the most important thing surely is the right mindset and i am happy he did not point out the many bad things you can see here in everyday life as again that would not be the idea of that topic...

one thing regarding the eu slack off...
germany (amongst others) has put regulations in place to ensure that not all new members' workers can come to work there immediately. germany is member of the eu, if i remember rightly, so there are mechanisms to avoid mass immigration if it is seen as a problem by your government. the uk's government didn't see the problem.

is that a fault of the people that decided to try a better life and came to the uk?? i don't think so...

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


which is as wrong, isn't it?

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

don't get me wrong. i am not denying it. but i definitely do not tolerate if people with (apparently) limited intelligence, like there are some in this thread again, think blaming the foreigners is the solution.

once and for all. it is NOT a solution to the problem.

germany has gone (and in a way still is) through the same thing and unfortunately there are many people complaining and blaming in the same way as it seems to happen here now. the trouble is that with our history talking that way is perceived in a very ugly way by others. that the uk does not have such an extreme period in their history does not make people think twice before giving these comments as you hear them in every second thread.

but that does not make them necessarily right...


peoples behaviour is not inevitable.

i have the impression we are talking of two different things here.
yes. mass immigration can become a problem if not dealt with in a proper way.
no. blaming the immigrants is not the solution...

that was what i meant when i wrote

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

maybe i am a bit over sensitive with my perceptions for the above reasons (i am from germany for those who don't know yet).

nevertheless i believe these people really have to work on their way of 'making a point' if they do not want to be potentially perceived as racists.

a constructive discussion makes sense. aggression rather doesn't...

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

my mistake...

didn't read all posts before posting now can't delete it...

Real Estate / Poland property boom over???? [54]

Deise 07:

all you say makes perfectly sense but some points have me thinking.

i am working as an architect in Leeds and so far we are still very busy. our office in Cork is not suffering yet either. both might be because the company is big enough to be able to deal with the effects.

back in germany, which is my country of origin, the whole development sector starts kicking in right now, which is partly due to the general rise out of the recent recession in germany.

nevertheless i believe that germany and even more poland are not so much dependent on the developments in the US (other than in the UK) so the effects should not be as harsh as in the uk or ireland.

i know of quite a few irish investors we work with who are still very interested in investing their money in polish developments (or elsewhere on the continent)... well... they apparently have to if they have nothing to invest in at home anymore...

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


well...

i had a completely different experience in the uk.
nowhere else on this planet have i met trusty employers who will give you a chance if you have the right attitude without even asking for any paper.

and that was the case in every job i took so far...

definitely a different story back home in germany. and probably in the us.

Magdalena. i guess you haven't met the right people and if you are unhappy with how your agencies find you jobs or work... change them. there are so many out there that are actually willing to help...

Love / Is it worth it, is my Polish guy trying to avoid me??? [49]

it's a trust thing.

i am with my polish girlfriend now since 1.5 years and at the beginning had the same problem that she was not quite sending as many texts as i wished (and did myself...). i was worrying especially when she went back home to her family and friends and i did not her of her...

over time we learnt both that i have to trust her and she learnt that this is easier if she occasionally answers my texts, too... up to the point now where i can't keep up with her phoning or texting me... which feels nice by the way.

the solution always is somewhere in the middle and communication is key...

Real Estate / Poland property boom over???? [54]


oh yes, i do. we had some pretty cr**py two decades... many of the reasons were homemade. the two biggest ones were the reunification in which our economy had to cope with 17 million more people plus a derilict country, and afterwards we decided to sponsor the currency union...

even the strongest economy would have had to suffer.

but mainly for the same reasons as we now tackled the original main problems (kind of), we can look forward to a moderate growth, not only with the economy in general but also in the property sector...

okay. that has not so much to do with the situation in poland but i wanted to mention it to not leave your post unanswered and also to point on that the situation in different countries can be influenced by world economy in different levels...

lets hope the best and keep our eyes open...

Real Estate / Poland property boom over???? [54]


have you got any figures? or further info on that?

i am sure that is not for entire germany's average. property in the east is generally cheaper than in the west as many buildings are deserted because people had to follow the work (ie gone to the west of the country). maybe that is where you might be able to buy property cheaper than in poland...

but to be honest i don't really believe that this is generally true... maybe regionally or even only in the odd case...

i'd love to have further info on that....

thanks

UK, Ireland / Rules on Car Tax on Polish vehicle in UK [20]


once the tax already paid in poland ran out that is, of course...

Polonia / Polish-German Language Exchnage! [10]

didn't i send you a link once for a german polish forum???

if you still are interested tell me and i send the link again.
we deal with quite a few translations there and have native speakers from both countries...

UK, Ireland / Advice for my Polish friend who came to the UK to work [22]




???

thread title misread? :D


nevertheless, the advice to learn some english is most certainly not wrong...

UK, Ireland / Rules on Car Tax on Polish vehicle in UK [20]


really???

they do not pay anything to the gov apart whats deducted from the anyway cheap fuel?
wow! that is very progressive and actually very fair...


it's all in the paperwork. you might be lucky until your tuev (german mot) runs out after, in the best case, 24 months'...

you can only have your car as a tourist untaxed in england for up to 6 months. after that period you are the longer part of a years period in this country and so you have to pay your tax where you live. that is valid not only for income tax but for your car as well...

at some point you will be asked to register your car on an english plate anyway. and to get that you have to have paid your car tax anyway...

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


bravo!
that is where some people on this forum should stop blaming everything foreign (mainly poles in this case) for "britains decline", and instead address their own inabilities to the right institutions for a change...

UK, Ireland / Rules on Car Tax on Polish vehicle in UK [20]


yeah...

i know where you coming from.
nevertheless almost everywhere else fuel is more expensive plus you have to pay seperate road tax on top (which is usually used in the same way as in poland, if you know what i mean...)

under these circumstances i would be happy stuffing the hole in polands finances than any other country's... ;)

UK, Ireland / Rules on Car Tax on Polish vehicle in UK [20]


when did that happen?? i have just been there after christmas and fuel was still way cheaper...

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


probably not. we had the same problem in berlin in areas with many turkish families. people on here should not forget that this is not the immigrants fault, but the governments.

so everyone on here is sending their complaints in the wrong direction...

the nhs was in a crisis even before the polish wave as you say yourself, but still there are people on here who paint a picture that the nhs would work fine if there were no poles in the uk...

how stupid is that??