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tornado2007   
28 Sep 2009
News / ARE POLISH PEOPLE TAKING OUR JOBS OR DOING OUR JOBS??!! DISCUSS. [126]

Why is everybody complaining about the Poles, or for that matter, any other nationality is taking our jobs?? You see the thing is, most of the jobs that these immigrants are taking are the ones that Brits themselves don't want to do (for whatever reason) these jobs still need doing so the businesses will employ whoever wants/needs the jobs.

The only moan i have about immigrants working in the UK is this, the ones who are face to face and interact with the customer/consumer on a regular basis and cannot speak English to the level required to have a simple conversation.
tornado2007   
27 Sep 2009
News / ARE POLISH PEOPLE TAKING OUR JOBS OR DOING OUR JOBS??!! DISCUSS. [126]

Its something that is beyond me too, why ow why is nobody in a powerful position doing anything about or immigration issues??

I believe it has something to do with the fact it is so out of control, it would take radical steps to change. Could you imagine if the government actually got serious and hot about immigration 'no your not coming in' 'if your here ilegally, we are coming to find you and throw you out' the government would probably be alligned with the Nazi's!!!! Who wants to take that kind of risk.
tornado2007   
27 Sep 2009
History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

Crow

uh oh, look who's back spreading his Serbian this Serbian that rubbish :):) Your a good laugh Crow but your country is a definition of 'average' :) nothing special ever came out of/ never will come out of Serbia, just get your head round that and you may enjoy the rest of your life. That is if you don't get lynched with your bum buddy Mladic :)
tornado2007   
27 Sep 2009
Food / Video's showing how to make certain Polish foods. [13]

Ana is a great cook but sometimes her videos are hard to access. She should have popped them all full-length on YouTube

the only problem there is that you can't have a long video on youtube anymore, they have limited the length, well actually the size of the file you can upload.
tornado2007   
27 Sep 2009
Food / Video's showing how to make certain Polish foods. [13]

Is this like the Polish Gordon Ramsey/Jamie Oliver??

I wish i'd found this when i really needed it, i wonder how many times it would have taken me to get it right???

Props to Ana
tornado2007   
27 Sep 2009
Language / How does Polish sound to you? How to make Polish sound more pleasurable? [100]

What's more, I am interested to hear how can I make Polish sound more pleasurable when speaking to foreigners?

Krysia if you spoke Polish to me i'm sure it would sound just fine and dandy :):) in fact i could not think of many things sexier than you speaking in that soft Polski voice of yours :)

How do you perceive Polish? What is unpleasant, what is pleasant?

On a serious note if Polish is spoken in anything but a soft calm voice it sounds aggressive, apart from that though i find Polish easy to listen too. If i'm on the bus and i can hear foreign languages been spoken around me, Polish isn't usually the loudest or most annoying one.
tornado2007   
26 Sep 2009
History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

maybe people found someting more interesting to talk about :) if you don't like it then get admin to move all the posts that are not on topic, go on run to teacher :):)
tornado2007   
26 Sep 2009
History / The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]

Nobody has really shown how Europe was saved, I'm not convinced so far.

Let's be honest with ourselves, it was the German high command that saved Europe by being over ambitious and fighting on too many fronts. Let alone the other countless mistakes they made towards the end of the war!!!!
tornado2007   
26 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

Shut up Tornado just because youve had enough of reading WWII threads doesnt mean everybody else has, i love posting on such topics so do many other older members and yourself apparently. Plus dont forget there are many new members here that havent read the older threads. If you dont like them stay away.

You make a good point, of course people like to read about history and what happened, i just feel there is a bit of overkill here. People don't actually talk about the 'situation' and this thread is a prime example, more like trying to big up the Poles and tell the rest of the world 'you let us down' or 'you should have done more' etc etc etc.

My other point i think is more than valid, repeat, repeat and more repeating. Its not just now and again WB is it?? every other thread is more or less 'the Poles did this in the war' 'if it was not for Poland that would have happened in the war' and so on and so on.

I also don't see a problem with my final point about looking for thanks or praise etc, i didn't step out of line just made a point.

I do, as you say, like posting in these types of threads because it think its more than important, people look forward rather than getting caught up, stuck in the past. Of course this is something that we have agreed to disagree on before :)

"Two of the best Marshals that Napoleon had were Józef Antoni Poniatowski and Jacques MacDonald."
EHM I was talking about Polands contribution to the BRITISH! It's what the threads name is right?
During war not WW2 ^^

I think you will find that my points were more than valid as i was debating 'reasoning' for the existance of this thread, which to me is clearly shown in the title. To claim that England would have been defeated if it was not for Poland is............. and as for wanting and seeking credit, its why i mentioned the Gurkha's, it does not matter who faught in what war/wars.
tornado2007   
26 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

You know the Poles may get a bit more of a thank you or congratulations for their part in world war II, that is if they ever shut up about it. Just take the gurkha's for example, now they were worriors, hard workers, loyal, gave themselves to the war effort (and many more conflicts) and are so humble that they have only protested about not being allowed to return to Britain until this year.

Me for one, am very very greatful to the Gurkha's for the service they have given us (Britain) throughout history and am myself more than happy and even honoured to have these people living amongst us in our country.

The Poles could take a leaf out of the Gurkha's book, keep your heads down and you'll get the praise, keep banging on and you'll get shite. Nobody doubts what the Poles did for the UK in WWII but it gets a bit old when they bring it up again and again and again coupled with 'you ow us!!!!' The poor Gurkha's have only been allowed to return to the UK, THIS YEAR to spend the last years of their lives in comfort and to recieve proper medical care that they truely deserve.
tornado2007   
25 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

that is exactly the point i have tried to make on the forums for a long long time now, however people just keep denying i have a point or refuse to believe i've made it in the first place. They keep returning to 'Polonaphobia' or something like that and the fact that i just don't like the Poles and do not understand because i'm not Polish!!

You know the funny thing is when i had my accident and lost all of my sight in one eye, were the people who guided me through the aftermath partially sighted, or had lost all their sight in one eye?? No of course they were not, did they understand and have the information i required to get on?? yes they dd.

Its not all about 'being' or 'experiencing' something, you can learn without either of these two elements, i sure do know one thing, worrying and feeling bitter about what happened in the past does nobody any good. That comes from somebody who had been there, warn the t-shirt blah blah blah blah, so all these excuses i hear and see on the forums are absolute rubbish.
tornado2007   
25 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

Because when someone fights and ultimately loses they need to hold onto anything that assures them the fight was not in vain and that some good come out of their struggle.

good point, i understand that idea of looking at the positives rather than the negatives, however if you were going to be that positive why bother with WWII at all??? There must be plenty more plus points about Poland than just 'History' i'm talking people, culture, food, potential.............. the list goes on.

If Polish perseverance on these subjects offends your Anglo-Saxon sense of humility, then please indulge our intransigence and forgive us for causing you the waste of time, energy and oxygen in typing your protest to our themes of discussion.

did i said it offended me?? i don't think i did, i just find it strange that people continually feel the need to write the same thing over and over, sometimes even make statements like the OP.

I think there is way way way too much negative talk on this forum about Poland, not just by the non-Poles either, i'm talking Polish citizens, people, civilians maybe even ex-service men/women.
tornado2007   
25 Sep 2009
History / Polish contribution to England during war [62]

ow come on, every new thread about the war and the Polish contribution gets more and more unbelievable, nobody is denying what Poland did for anybody in the war or what she contributed (in fact maybe thats because people are fed up of hearing about it so keep quite) but this is getting beyond stupid :)

Fair play Poland did what it/she did, nobody is going to take that away but why do people feel the need to bring up the same points again and again??
tornado2007   
18 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

I think you can bring out smiles in Poles with relative ease, the ones that are receptive to it, I mean.

i got a good plan, fill um up with wodka, lol :):):) if that does not get them smiling, then you probably have a dead body on your hands!!! Well or a teetotaler, lets be honest though do they exist in Poland??

but seriously not all people are like that over there, it has a lot to do with their upbringing and environment, wheteher they're happy with their lives or not etc.

of course i know there are smiley Poles, i would never say that 'No Poles smile' that would be silly.

ahh sounds like home lol

dentists must not get much business in Poland then :)

or maybe the waitress just got PMS ;).

that has spoilt my next meal, i'm sitting there just about to tuck into my food and the waitress comes back and says 'would you like anything else with your meal' i say 'no thank you' and she walks off, i wonder why she seems unhappy and then suddenly remember what JustysiaS said on PF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but many people here are too fake about it...

i don't know about many but there are people who like to flash the fake smile
tornado2007   
18 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

listen people it is not hard to smile

1: A smile you may give to a stranger; maybe they have helped you out, maybe your work includes a lot of customer/consumer interaction
:):):):):):):):):):):)

2: A smile you give to somebody you know or somebody you like/fancy/admire/family
:)):)):)):)):)):)):)):)):))

3: A fake smile saved for those times when.............
:))):))):))):))):))):))):)))

thats my culture, lol.

If your Polish it goes a little something like........................???????????????
tornado2007   
18 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

i probably would smile but many people don't like to smile. in UK most people will smile but those smiles are not always 'real', so at least when a Polish person smiles at you it's special lol. but seriously, it's a different culture, people are more serious and some are just plain grumpy. if you help people out i'm sure they would give you a smile and a thankyou, unless they're really rude.

I mean don't get me wrong, i'm not asking/expecting the earth but i just think its polite to say thank you and if your happy with it a smile. I understand that there are cultural differences and this probably is the answer i was looking for, i can't help been dissapointed when i go to an eatery and the waitress does not smile or have manners.

I have my culture too :):)
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

For sure it is. In Polish culture you usually don't smile at strangers. I discovered that pretty quickly when I came to PL. And I had it confirmed later as well. But when it's people they know well, I think people are smiling much more.

Well that seems to pretty much explain it then, the question posed has been answered, Poles don't smile because its not part of their culture to do so unless they know you.

For sure it is. In Polish culture you usually don't smile at strangers

it might get you into trouble

I've just helped you pick up all that shopping you've dropped, maybe you've asked me a question like 'have you got the time please?' what is wrong with expecting a smile and maybe a thank you for my assistance?? is it that much of an effort?? (of course i'm not talking about you/to you personally/only)
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

I think it is generally the case that Poles don't serve with a smile

thats why i asked about 'cultural differences' service/hospitality may be viewed different by Poles as a whole, i would not know about this as i don't sit down over a pint with a Pole and discuss service/hospitality :)
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

I think you will find that this below is shorter and not ********!!!!

Not smiling to everybody? what situation are we talking about here?? I'm not talking about just looking at somebody, i'm talking about little or a lot of interaction through one activity or another.

It does not interest me if a Pole, Brit, Spanyard etc etc walking down the street smiles or not.

However people did not understand what i meant, so i gave clear examples along with my thoughts, its not ********, its just giving my point of view. Its not like i've slagged anybody off, called people names or abused anybody, its just a point of view.

why can't people discuss instead of getting so defensive??
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

If you got to really know them, and they didn't smile, I would not trust them either. But some people really need to get to know you before they feel comfortable around them.

Maybe some people don't smile because they need some dental work.

or maybe they don't smile because they just don't like the person...

I'm sorry but i don't think your putting up what i'm putting down, i'm not talking about people i know and don't know, people that i do want to know or people that i don't want to know, i'm talking about people i interact with through one way or another.

For example, i go to the gym four or five times in a week, three days a week there is a British girl behind the desk, the other two days the girl is Polish. Usually you walk in and have to have your card swipped through a machine, then its 'thank you...........' maybe a bit of conversation if i or them are up to it. When the British girl says 'thank you' it is usually accompanied with a smile, however the Polish girl, never a smile.

From my experience its the same when i go for a meal to a specific place i go too, the waitresses there are Brits, Poles, Africans etc etc, the Poles never smile when they serve you. While the Brits, Africans sometimes indulge in a little conversation if you/them feel comfortable, what i'm trying to say is, while the Poles are very good at hospitality, they do operate with a certain 'robotic' style. THis is something i'm not really looking for when i'm out eating a meal with friends, a place that is meant to be comfortable, warm, friendly etc etc with robotic staff??? lol it does not add up for me, so i rarely tip them well.

I could give many many examples, even of people on the street who just need something, time, light, even a bit of money if they have not got enough for the bus (yes its happened) Still no smile or thank you, apart from anything this is rude (maybe a cultural difference i don't know)

I've never had a problem with my Polish friends, i do say now and again 'come on cheer up' or 'smile'. Many of them are cheery, smiley and friendly but i do find sometimes that smiling is difficult to come by when your eastern european. I know i'm generalising a little but how else can i put it???.................
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

Come to think of it, I don't think I would trust somebody who smiles all the time. It is not natural.

i didn't say that somebody should smile to everyone, to add to what you said, i wouldn't trust a person who never smiles!!
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

Not smiling to everybody? what situation are we talking about here?? I'm not talking about just looking at somebody, i'm talking about little or a lot of interaction through one activity or another.

It does not interest me if a Pole, Brit, Spanyard etc etc walking down the street smiles or not.
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

While i agree with what you two are saying, that does not hide the fact they hardly smile at all, i mean come on what is wrong with looking happy?? A lot of Poles i know do smile but as you have already said that is because i know them, you can pass people in the street, let somebody in front of you in a que, help somebody with something and usually they will smile and say thank you, not a Pole though.

Even when it comes to service, i.e. in their job, what happened to service with a smile!!! lol
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish driver dies as car shears in half... [38]

Wel if you ask me he got exactly what he deserved for doing double the speed and been three times over the legal limit!!!! If you endanger yourself like this then you can expect to be seriously injured or as in this case killed. I don't really care that he is dead, i'm just happy he didn't take anybody innocent with him.

IDIOT
tornado2007   
17 Sep 2009
Life / How often do you think Poles smile :) [58]

smiling and laughing, yeah when they have had a few drinks, otherwise its a pretty uncommon sight. I would even stretch as far as to say they do come across as very very serious and sometimes rude, like plk123 already pointed out.