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shopgirl   
9 Sep 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

A foot note to this thread, now that the event has passed

Poland plays down low US presence at WWII commemoration
euractiv.com/en/central-europe/poland-plays-low-us-presence-wwii-commemoration/article-184948

Poland said no excessive meaning should be attached to the fact that the USA is sending a low-level delegation to a commemoration of the 70th anniversary of the beginning of World War II, the Polish press reported.

"It's hard to judge invited guests on the basis of their will to attend a gathering or not," he said. "Those who want to be there shall come. And we should be happy with those who will arrive and not pass judgment on those who cannot come to Poland for various reasons," Komorowski said.

It seems the "tempest in a teacup" was mostly celebrated here on the forum. No big deal......
shopgirl   
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

You have actually demonstrated something? Maybe shopping would relieve your anxiety.

So you are saying that YOU can't entertain any other possibilities than your own? How small minded you are.

Poland should not get in a fizz over WHO the US sends to a commemorative event. That is petty. Period.

Shopping? No thanks. I hate shopping. I just happen to manage a shop.
shopgirl   
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

Maybe Poland should have a Memorial Day too, and commemorate ALL the wars that Poland participated in over history.

My point is this, I like Poland and a lot of its people, but I don't like the attitude that everything the US does is wrong. That is mostly what I get from the ppl on this forum. It doesn't matter what year it is, or who is Prez, they will find something to complain about. It is their nature. How silly of me to try to reframe a situation to illustrate how unfair the accusation!
shopgirl   
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

Poland can't even have a black man in a advertisement, so why the hell should Obama cross the pond for them?
shopgirl   
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

That does not answer my question...

From another blog on this I read that the US doesn't have as much reason to attend....they would have not entered the war had it not been for Pearl Harbor, and the US does not carry as much guilt over the war as do many Euro nations (France and Britain promised to help out immediately if Poland was attacked, and it took them how long to show up?)

Anyway.....I don't think anyone should be commemorating the START of a war. Lets put our energies into being thankful that it was ENDED.
shopgirl   
30 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

Shopgirl, we're talking about the commemoration of the beginning of WWII. All other countries involved are sending their presidents and prime ministers, so it will be a a VERY important event internationally. The only ones who won't send anybody important are USA and Israel. One might think that those two countries somehow don't think WWII was an important event.

And for how long will this be commemorated, do you think?
(Just wondering)

I wonder why no one sends dignitaries to commemorate the beginning of WWI? Why don't we celebrate the beginning or end of our own Civil War? Or the end of the Viet Nam War? Or the Korean War? Or the Spanish-American War? Or the Kosovo War?

Why?
shopgirl   
29 Aug 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

The US has its own problems to contend to.....healthcare reform is being bitterly contested (again...Hillary tried years ago and found what a knotty mess it was to try to get a consensus on how to tackle the issue), we just had a revered Senator pass away (Edward Kennedy), and a messed up economy to put right.

Why does Poland believe it has to be center stage all the time?
Why?
shopgirl   
25 Jun 2009
UK, Ireland / Father's Day cards banned in Scottish schools [64]

What are you disputing, that kids from single parent households don't have higher school drop-out rates; or higher crime rates, or are imprisoned disproportionately?

This could also be a correlation, rather than directly attributable to no father in the house. I might propose that the single parent household would also be a lower income household, and therefore contributing to less positive opportunities for children.

Mom's sometimes have to work to jobs to keep the family afloat.
shopgirl   
6 Jun 2009
Love / THE TYPICAL POLISH WOMAN? [148]

Yeah but when I complain to the right people stuff gets done. Complaining is a good thing

I think it depends on how it is done. There is more than one type of complaining.

Some people whine and moan but do nothing to change the things they are whining about. Or they whine because they expect someone to fix things for them.

Then there is the type of person who looks for the reason for the problem and brings up the issue, and brings possible solutions as well.

I'd much rather listen to the positive complainer, than the negative one.
shopgirl   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Mr. G, take a look at some of these:

Japanese Ignored Rules in POW camps
historyonthenet.com/WW2/pow_camps_japan.htm

Russia didn't sign
historyonthenet.com/WW2/geneva_convention.htm

New Rules added in 1949 after conduct of Germany and Japan in WWII
historyonthenet.com/WW2/geneva_convention.htm
shopgirl   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

It's really important to know what peoples intensions are, so that you can understand it/change it

Another point to consider...
I just learned that how "war crimes" were considered according to what countries in the war had signed off on various portions of the Geneva convention. I had no idea that there was a choice for a country to accept or decline subscription to certain parts of the GC! (Not that Stalin would have cared either way, in his case)
shopgirl   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

I think what I have seen BB say (and correct me Bratski if I am wrong) but there were soldiers in the Wehrmacht who were drafted whether they wanted to be there or not.

In contrast, the SS was a special group, with sworn allegiance to Himmler.

Richtig?

Atrocities happened on all fronts, with all units.

Absolutely...with Allies and Axis alike!
shopgirl   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

And Dresden???

Yeah, that was nasty too.
But the British helped with that one.

A 1953 United States Air Force report written by Joseph W. Angell defended the operation as the justified bombing of a military and industrial target, which was a major rail transportation and communication centre, housing 110 factories and 50,000 workers in support of the German war effort.[4] Against this, several researchers have argued that not all of the communications infrastructure, such as the bridges, were in fact targeted, nor were the extensive industrial areas outside the city centre.[5] It has been argued that Dresden was a cultural landmark of little or no military significance, a "Florence on the Elbe," as it was known, and the attacks were indiscriminate area bombing and not proportional for the commensurate military gains.

shopgirl   
1 Jun 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

General question to no one in particular: Do the victors of a war (like the Allies in WWII) get special dispensation regarding war crimes? Why didn't the US get hung out to dry over the bobs dropped on Japanese civilians?

shopgirl: What geographical questions did you have in mind????Like beside how many oceans Ukraine lies :D

Erm, lets see now......there's the Black Sea and that little spill-over puddle Azov thingie. :)

Do seas count as oceans though? I think of oceans being more vast and expansive than "seas".

What next?! :)
shopgirl   
31 May 2009
History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

has as much to do with German projects as Americans with geographical awareness of anything over 100 miles from where they live

WTF?????

*shopgirl puts her antique Sherman tank in gear and drives over Sokrates rock-filled head*

What geographical questions did you have in mind????
shopgirl   
27 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

Hardly" isn't the most fortunate word here.German population before WW2 - 69,623,000German population after WW2 - 62,390,000

I don't buy it. Your figures do not break down by gender or age. I have read repeatedly that the population left over in Germany after the war was disportionate in women, children and old men in relation to men.

By May 7, 1945 at least 1.8 million German CIVILIANS had perished, 7.5 million were homeless. As many as 16.5 million were about to be driven from their homes. Of these 2.25 million would die during the expulsions from the south and east. -Giles Macdonough

descendants of murderers

Germany had quite a few descendant of ALLIES. Think about that the next time all of you go blotto on younger generations of Germans!

In the decade after World War II, more than 100,000 babies were born to unwed German mothers and Allied soldier fathers. Most of the men left Europe without ever meeting their children. Now, many "occupation babies" are scrambling to find their fathers before it's too late.

Children of the Enemy
spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,456835,00.html
shopgirl   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

Eastern Germany didnt get too much though did it B, do you even know why?

Because the Russians were cheap?
lol

Should the Western Allies have just slugged it out with the Russians after the fall of Germany. After all America had the Nuke technology shortly after, we would have blown them to kingdom come.

Maybe the Allies should have, but everyone was worn out and empty by the end of WWII. All parties involved just wanted it to be over so rebuilding could take place.
shopgirl   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

Shopski? You are not trying to argument rational with these guys, don't you???

One tries! :)

It's just the usual b*itchfest after midnight...nothing special...:)

Und ob ich es weiß! :)
shopgirl   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

German unification came later than Polish reforms after Communism, but the changes in German economics were greater.
shopgirl   
26 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

You mean a chauvinistic state filled with descendants of murderers who insolently try to shift blame onto the descendants of their victims and rewrite history?

There is a difference between "rewriting history" and bringing out facts that were ignored before!

There can't be that many "descendants of murderers" because there wasn't hardly any men left in Germany after WWII!

And what do you mean by "chauvinistic" state??????
shopgirl   
25 May 2009
History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]

For sure we can blame the Germans as the proximate cause but we need to understand the fury of theirs after Versailles. Yes, I understand the anger of the Poles but not fully as I've never lived it.

Its another matter for speculation, but if the Versailles Treaty hadn't been so brutal and unforgiving, there might not have been a Hilter either. I read somewhere that he insisted that France sign its surrender in the same rail car where Germany had signed the Versailles Treaty as a personal retribution.

I think all of us, myself included, tend to forget what an earth-shaking event WWI was. WWII may have eclipsed the Great War in many ways, but the first war reshaped Europe in so many ways, could we even list them all?
shopgirl   
25 May 2009
History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

some would say that rebbelion of Lusatians and other awaken western Slavs that were/are forcible germanized, represent serious option that needs to be taken in consideration. But, i believe in peacefull dissolution of Germany, at least in its eastern regions

Instead of that idea, how about finding ways to get the Sorbs on the radar of German and Polish officials in order to bring in financial support?

That way the culture could be saved. Maybe Balkan Serbs could also provide assistance.

My guess is that the governments of these countries (Germany, Poland and Serbia) have bigger fish to fry on their political agendas than supporting a minority. US Native tribes have a similiar issue.

PS. Vrana, can't you find a nicer avatar to look at? Please? :)
shopgirl   
24 May 2009
History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

Its necesery... its the matter of human rights, democracy, susteinable peace in Europe...

Vrana, how do you suppose this issue would even begin to be raised in today's political climate? There is no way that this idea would fly....