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It's as if you people were programmed to do so.
I see Poles programmed to tell about their single role saving of Europe and about being poor whining pussies who were unfairly beaten bu Ukrainian Cossacks. In all the forums you present yourself as the only nation out there to invent everything, to be generous and so on. Pure BS. Are you programmed?
Unfortunately, aside of the 20 000 Cossacks that took part in the battle there were also Lithuanians and Poles, who made up about 30 000 troops plus over 6 000 German infantry, but I'm sure they all were just lying on the floor and resting.
Listen, Herodotus, there was one historian already - Ogorki - who said that L'viv was captured by Lithuania in 1200, whereas it was founded in 1256. Where have you taken your army numbers?
"The Polish-Ukrainian-Lithuanian army numbered 30,000 (18,000 cavalry, 12,000 infantry) and further 25,000-30,000 Ukrainian Cossack army, led by ataman Petro Konashevych-Sahaidachny (mostly infantry)". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khotyn_(1621)
As you see Ukrainians were half of the total army force.
Why do I mention battle of Khotyn? I wish it didn't happen at all as many other battles where we fought for back-stabbing Polish pussies. Well, it is in the past and it can't be changed. You are saying that you saved the Europe whereas in the battle at Vienna the following army forces were present:
Troops Infantry Cavalry and Dragoons Cannons Total
Commonwealth 16,300 20,550 28 + 150 men 37,000
Austria 8,100 10,350 70 18,400
Bavaria 7,500 3,000 26 10,500
Swabia and Franconia 7,000 2,500 12 9,500
Saxony 7,000 2,000 16 9,000
Grand total: 45,900 38,350 152 84,450
Commonwealth which included not Poles, but Lithuanian as well (I am not mentioning other people) had 37,000 army. Austrians, French and Germans had 47,400 army. And you say Poland saved Europe, but when I said that Cossacks saved Commonwealth at Khotyn where Ukrainian made half of the total force and major attacking one, you say I am programed. Haha. Polish mentality, nothing else ;)
Amusingly enough they never mention the battle of Batoh which is the only battle in Ukrainian history where Ruthenians managed to defeat a large regular Polish military force instead they choose to make stuff up :))
Batih was a nice victory written outrageously funny on Wikipedia. Poor Poles, they like to reduce their forces numbers as they lose (15,000 in place of 30,000). Haha. I wasn't talking about defeats of Polish army at Ukrainian hands, but was mentioning times when we were helping you out, Sokrates.
Who gives a flying fcuk about the 1600's.
Looks like some do, because siege of Vienna is being mentioned with lying overtone. :)
P.S. I never said that Lithuanians were sunbathing when Cossacks fought. They fought together, side by side. All I am saying that pinpointing one nation in the multinational battles where that nation had lesser amount of army and chicken-winged hussars is not right.
