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moire   
17 Jan 2007
Love / Help me! I fell in love with a Polish man! [137]

how is thing going on, roman?
I had the same experience with a polish guy last year. He was visiting his friends who are my neighbors in Germany. We slept together after one week. It is not that fast, but the problem is that I was in a strange relationship(sextual relationship) with one of his friends. I was in love with him in this week. He also likes me a lot, cuz i am a beautiful, intelligent, laborous and independent woman. He was 27 at that time, and i was 31.

He went back to Poland without leaving me any contact methods. But I got his email from his friends, and sent him an email saying hello. He answered me, but he didnt think anything serious. We met 3 times later, and I kept write him email with my poor english telling him I am in love with him with time. He is the one that i dreamed for from i was a little girl.

Now we are together, and I visited his family in poland last xmas. we are happy now although it is still a long way to go to live together.

What I want to tell you from my experience is: make your effort, offer your love, show the true you, explain the misuderstanding between you, and then you can get his love if he is a good man.

I love polish guys with traditional values.
moire   
6 Mar 2007
Love / Asian guy dating Polish girl [77]

from a girl's point of view, i'd like a guy use more body language than poem. i'd think he is not mature enough.
moire   
27 Apr 2007
Love / English girl in love with polish boy. Can this work? [22]

are you a 'chinese girl' from that well-known little shootty country in the Middle East?

hi, puzzler, my english seems not good enough to understand your question, or i just dont have the sense of humor as you do.
my definition is: Chinese girls are from People's republic of China.
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

Hi, everyone, I have been depressed for a month for my relationship with my polish boyfriend. I couldn't sleep, thinking about it all the night. I am a Chinese girl in early 30s. Maybe you have got some informations about my relationship with him from my former posts.

Here is the problem:
I have been with my polish boyfriend for one year. I am working in denmark and he is working in poland now. i am going to visit him in three days, cos next tuesday is our one year's anniversary. He never says 'i love you' to me. in fact from the beginning it was me who insisted the relationship. He is kind of person who seldom tell people what is deep in his mind, but use joke to hide his feelings. It is hard to be with this kind of man for the relationship, cos no communication often brings out misunderstanding, but soon or later i got used to this. He is very sweet to me when we are together, endless kisses, caresses, make me feel like a little girl under his safe arms, which is exactly what i wanted from i was a little girl. I have been strong, independent for years. but i am not aggressive, i always listen to him and respect his decision.

(Have to explain the chinese culture background. I am a doctor in science and work as an assistant professor in danish university now. if i was in china, i am sort of women no man would like to marry with, no matter how beautiful i look like and how well i cook. chinese men feel threaten by intelligent women)

back to the topic. we had talked once, like six month after the relationship. i asked if he loves me, he said if he loved me he should have married me. he likes me a lot, but not sure it is love or not, and that we can keep the relationship, until i find someone else. i was so sad and desperated when i heared this. but after one night's self struggle, i decided to keep the relationship although his attitude was really lack of affection and a kinda of insult for me. i love him so much that i am willing to risk, to make him love me.

hopefully after that conversation he was nicer to me, he invited me for xmas with his family, and his family and friends treated me like a pearl. after three month i went to poland again for easter holiday like 2 weeks together. we sleep togeth in his parents home like a real couple, his mother prepared the bed for us. i really feel like a family member.

so my questions are:
1.is it normal that polish men bring their girlfriends to their parents home like my bf did to me? i really hope it is a sign a promisement or engagement.

2. should i ask him something like "if he loves me, where we are" at the 1 year anniversary night? I didnt ask him anything after i got that bad answer six month again, i am self-esteemed person, and afraid of getting ashamed with unexpected answer.

3. should i keep meeting him in poland without him visiting me in denmark. although i know he is not in good financial situation, but it is pretty unfair for me as a girl to do all the efforts, not talking about the money, but all the trouble to apply for the visa everytime i go to poland. will he feel be insulted if i told him i can cover all his costs if he visit me in denmark?

4. although he was very nice and sweet to me when we were staying together, he never called me when i was in denmark, we chat sometimes by msn, it was always me who called from time to time. is it a sign of no love? i am pretty comfused.

5. i know he is not in a right direction for his career, he insisted in doing small labor business in poland although he is educated as an engineer. he is a very intelligent man in my heart :P. I have always been supportive for his decision although i know it is not a very wise one. should i point it out, i dont want to hurt his pride and i dont want to be a woman who try to control her man.

I have been thinking of these problems for long time. i cannt feel totally happy when these problems come to my mind. sometimes he asked me why i didnt look happy, how can i answe him with all these problems. I have also talked with my friends here in denmark, but chinese friends opinons are too practically based, in their mind I can only marry a professor; while nordic friends opinons are also too self based, they seek for equal, equal affection, equal payout, equal housework, cannt understand sacrifice for love. nobody support me to be a housewife in poland without job, although it was only my own plan.

so i would really appreciate any opinons from a polish point of view that is a combination of both traditional values and westen free mind.

sorry for my broken english if i didnt explain all the story well.
thank you in advance
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

Asian people seem smart.

not everybody for sure. and it is not a really compliment for a chinese woman in china. tragedy is that we have to hide our brightness to satisfy men's pride.

it is good to be myself in europe

they always lose to westerners because europeans are far more brutal,violent and aggresive

they are not, at least my boyfriend is not that kind of, otherwise i wouldnt fall love with him.
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

hi, miranda, thank you for your support.
I told my boyfriend before that i want to move to poland, and i did contact a professor in Lublin for job. but it is not that easy to get a position in polish university as in western european countries.

so i have to face the reality, i will not move to poland as a single woman, it is too hard for me, and even i find a job, i cannt afford my life with the limited wage. If we are married, i dont mind the bad living condition, i come from poor country, nothing worse i will face with. But if i am single, i have to be nice to myself, that needs money.

last easter my boyfriend told me that " screw your scientific career, and still here with me", he said this with in a easy and joking tone after i made him a delicous chinese dinner, i dont know how serious he is, but i answered 'no problem from me'. He is a very smart person, he knows what i want, we dont say everything very clearly.

it doesn't seem that you are all that happy with the whole arrangement

i am not that happy when we are not together, and when he didnt send me text for days. when we are together, that huge happiness just submerge,i often burst into tears because this huge happiness and satisfaction.

I cannt tell the definition of happiness now, very confused
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

thank you, southern, for your advice. there is something i didnt explain clearly, according to your advice:
1. good to know that. i will not put this as one of the positive aspect of my relationship
2. i read many psycholocal books. i know how do men think, but i cannt use psychology to sovle my own problem
3. he doesnt not have polish girlfriend now and when we met, we are both single. that is the base for our relationship, i would never ever have affair with men.

4. It maybe true, i thought he is not that kind of shallow man. i just cannt accept the fact, i would rather believe he is busy or it is too expensive to call me from his mobile.

5. he had decent job in german, he quited it voluntarily to start the business in poland, he loves poland, and has ambition.

I am pretty good looking, much better than his ex-girlfriends. i am always trying to learn everything to make a perfect woman, i am a good beller dance dancer, good at cooking, knitting, all the housework. i am really attractive to most men. but it seems love is much more than attractive. i cannt force a man to love me.

anyway i wiil change the strategy slowly, he will never care about me if he didnt make any effort.
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

In both Eastern Europe and Asia it seems that feminism is not very adavanced.This is not negative at all.Probably a polish man knows to treat a chinese woman better.

I definity know feminism has no market all over the world. i have never been a feminist.

maybe he is intimidated by your obvious status in academia

at the beginning i told his i dont like academia stuff at all, i have to do this because it seems the only job i can find in europe.

cannt understand what is wrong with my job if i still cook his dinner, wash his clothes, knit him sweater
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

I know we cannot see what makes him special to you that you stay with him - but weigh up that versus all this i think.

he is special and wonderful, although i complained so much about him here.
thank you too, daffy.
my heart simply doesnt listen to my head. that is the main problem
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

You should consult some slavic or meditteranean girls about the secrets of attraction

thanks for this advice. i did have several polish femal friends when i was in german. I definitly know what is the secrets of attraction for a man, i guess i do it well.

but i cannt speak sweetly like polish girls even my boyfriend, i never called my partners honey, baby stuff, :(, chinese have deep sitted emotion, we are not good at expressing ourself, i have never heard about this sweet words from my parents, i didnt learn it when i was young. so now even i am willing to be sweet, these words are just stuck in my thoast, cannt go out. i act more than talk.

Most men do not like to say I love you.

i totally agree with this. i distinguish like and love too. i never say i love you to him, but i did write letters to him and make valantine's card saying I love you. he should know i said this with commitment from my part
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

i do not want to change my man. i love what he is, that is the reason i fall love with him.
i like strong men in general, i like man who wants to control women.
i my family, my mother control everything, i am pretty tired of this, and feel pity for my father. i dont want the same thing happen.
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

For example would you put your bare legs on his legs while sitting in dining room or sit in his lap and kiss him deep for hours in a club as polish girls do?Do you call him kochanie etc?

i did more than this, i guess not less than a polish or american girl can do ;) i have been in france and german for years, i am not conservative chinese in china. but i never flirt with his male friends, although we often joke about threesome stuff.

i never call him kochanie, that is true. i will try to speak sweet.

by the way i dont think you can kiss a polish man for hours in a club, his mouth is alway busy for beer or vodak :D
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

The man you're with doesn't seem to be very much into commitment, so you need something on your own to relate to. Coming here for him only may be great for your relationship at first, but then it may introduce a whole lot of frustration and disappointment, if you end up in a different place that you hoped for. In either case, talk to him about your fears and hopes. If he has some hopes for future with you too, he'll understand and listen to you.

i do have many plans if i am gonna move to poland. there are a lot of oppotunity of business between poland and china, in both directions. i really can do a lot of things in poland except academy. only the first few years gonna be hard, coz i have to learn this tough polish. i am brave. but all this depends on his commitment. i dont know should i talk all my plans with him or not. i am afraid he think i am too ambitious. he is always saying that women should stay in the kitchen
moire   
7 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

i put too much affection, effort, time, and almost life ( i had an accident on the highway when i drove back from poland to denmark) to this relationship, really hard to terminate it from my side. it is like you pregenant for 10 months to have a baby, how could you abandon it yourself.

life is a big gamble

moire, when will you see him agian?

in four days. and for ten days.
i didnt plan this visit at first. his friend invited us for the wedding party, so he asked me if i am gonna come. i said yes. i never say no to him.

it is good to work in the university, otherwise i dont have so much time to spend on him.

moire, when will you see him agian?

in four days. and for ten days.
i didnt plan this visit at first. his friend invited us for the wedding party, so he asked me if i am gonna come. i said yes. i never say no to him.

it is good to work in the university, otherwise i dont have so much time to spend on him.

i know many many poles who hate the things in there homeland

i think most poles love their country, althoght they dont mind earn money from richer countries, and use their productions.
my boyfriend loves poland very much, he enjoys his social circles in poland, although mostly they drink vodak and even smoke up. sometimes i think he is a narrow patriotism(maybe i didnt understand his ironical tone). similar to normal chinese attitude towards japan.
moire   
9 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

i will have a serious talk with him when i am in poland. in fact it is not a good time to talk about the relationship with him. his career is in a mess, i know he is trying to be strong to get through this, i really dont want to bother him more. i should be supportive.

my ex was a french. he also told me that he had no plan or future with me, but he didnt want to break up at all. so we kept the relationship for almost three years until i felt no love at all with him. when i left him definitely, he begged me back, and offered marriage. how ridiculous.

I feel i am a loser for relationship, i am too nice to my men, and they abuse it.
moire   
21 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

hi, I am back from poland. cannt wait to tell you the news. my boyfriend asked for marriage this time. suprise!
But we still have no detailed plan. I have to find a decent job in poland, and he has to develop his company well to afford a family. we will see what is going on in the next few month.
moire   
25 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

oh my god, things are changing really faster than what I planed.
In this week I got one job offer from Radom polish national institite for one year's contract and another one from Newcastle university for three years.

I will let my boyfriend to choose one for me. i am not going to anywhere alone anylonger.
question again:
will polish men mind their wives earn more than them?
how to arrange family financial issues? we share all our belongs or keep financially independent?
moire   
25 May 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

is it the trend for young polish couple to be financially independent? I thought it happens only in weasten european countries.
in my mind, family means share everything. if you at the begining think of how to protect your money from divorce, why do you get married. just live together is more agreeable.
moire   
29 May 2007
Life / Maternity leave in Poland [4]

i want to know how can a woman be qualified for this maternity leaving.
for example: i am now working in denmark, from Jan 2008 i am going to work in Poland and pay polish social insurance.
can i get a full paid maternity leave if I have a baby after six months' work in poland?
and how much can i get paid since i only work six month in poland.

i checked the rule, it says the pay is based on the last 12 months avarage salary. is this "average" my average salary or the average wage in poland?

thank you very much for any information
moire   
21 Jun 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

men are realistic for relationship. I guess he does know you like him. but if you two cannt stay together in the near future, most men wouldnt like to have long distance relationship, unless they totally fall for somebody.

from this point of view, he is a good guy who doent want to play with your feelings.
maybe you should have a clear and serious talk with him, it is a torture for you to guess all the possiblities and wait for something never happens.
moire   
22 Jun 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

true, but easier said that done

not that difficult :) I did it twice in my life. The first time i was refused politely by a guy whom i didnt like that much; the second time i was refused too, because i was moving to denmark in two month. But i like that guy so much, i keep writting him, and visitting him in Germany and Poland. Now he is mine, he is willing to follow me all over the world. we are planning moving together and get married in few months.

i had bad time during the last year, but now i am very happy.
make your effort, then you will not regret.
moire   
29 Jul 2007
Love / My Polish boyfriend never says 'l love you' to me, what should i do? [93]

Hi, guys,
I am moving to England at the end of this September.
It was my bf who wanted to live in England, i tried, and got a permenant job there, but he is hesitating leaving poland now, his business runs better

He said he loves me very much, it is clear we dont have any problems of feelings, but have to face the reality.
if he doesnt want to follow me to england as he said before, we are definitly over then.
During the last three months, i realized slowly that job is more important for woman than a man. especially he is not very mature as I thought before, he changes his mind pretty often, and easily be influenced by his friends around.

Anyway I did my best, and still doing my best. I am going to visit him again in August. He said he would help me move from Denmark to England, hope he wouldnt change his mind. I can do it myself for sure, but i will feel so miserbale to move alone and face all the troubles alone.
moire   
29 Jul 2007
News / Poland in Schengen Group [16]

good for me, i dont need visa for Poland any more!
I am chinese, have schengen visa. only this year, polish visa used six pages in my passport. I have to change my passport. that wouldnt happen again!