Life / Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people [150]

You know what, mate? I lived in a stinking sh-t hole like Levenshulme for some years and I had no s-it like this happening to me. Some scallies tried to nick my motorbikes, but I experienced no direct insults like that. Never.

Like I said, if the Poles think they are so special and vulnerable as a nation that they have to be always shielded from untermenschen like us, that's just fine. Go for that. They have their right of self-determination. I just f-cking move on.

Life / Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people [150]

Not far from Mogilskie.

It occurs sporadically in all sorts of places, but thankfully hasn't happened around my apartment.

Violence aside, I experience a lot of random intimidation, such as the usual "chin chun chan" and some stupid monkey chanting, here and there, like right in front of the main station the other day.

A while ago, someone held onto me and tried to punch me right next to the main station. I had to judo him and drop him onto the tarmac.

Life / Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people [150]

Yes. Like several days ago when a shaved gorilla spat on me, just 50 metres or so from my work place that is one of few locations where bullsh-t never happens to me.

Perhaps, I should be more grateful to our high school PE teacher who taught us judo.

Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore. It took only two days to sort out my UK highly-skilled migrant visa.

Life / Wonderful Poland.......but the attitude of Polish people [150]

I am still in Krakow, but decided to throw my career away and go back to Manchester. Such a huge relief.

I've had enough tw-ts insulting me, picking on me, trying to punch or kick me and even spitting on me.

Racism or not, I can't live in a place where I come across so many rude people so often in so many places.

If the Poles don't want foreigners in their country, that's fine. This isn't my country, so it's their issue. I'll just leave.

News / Nobility / Aristocracy in Poland ? [92]

Związek Szlachty Polskiej

szlachta.org

News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]


British, as it reads.


They shouldn't be. The way of thinking that you have just presented here is exactly my point. It's about their identities, and not about blood. They don't think they are British, so they aren't.


I didn't create that problem.


You are obviously confusing ethnicity (English, Irish, Chinese, Pakistani, etc) and national identity (British).

A British person can be English, Irish, Scotish, Chinese or just anything. It's all about whether the person feels comfortable with the fundamental values that Britain represents. A British-born Chinese is a Chinese person who identifies oneself as Chinese, but just happened to be born in Britain. Such person isn't really British.

So, a British-born British citizen who beats his 16-y/o daughter into marrying a 60-y/o cousin is not quite British in my opinion.

Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]

I lived in England as a student and later as a highly-skilled migrant. There were enough unskilled and uneducated Polish people in Manchester who didn't speak a word of English. I sometimes had to talk in Russian as that was the closest to what they knew, and THAT WASN'T A PROBLEM FOR ME AT ALL.

Now, I am here, working and minding my own fu=king business, and the locals tell me to speak in Polish. They treat me VERY well when they know I'm Japanese, but too many start to pick on me when they don't. SO FU*KING WHAT IF I LOOK LIKE A VIETNAMESE OR CHINESE? What is it that makes you think that you are any better than those migrant workers? What is your f%cking problem?

Anti-immigration Poles? What a fuc#ing oxymoron!

Without my brilliant local colleagues and friends, I would've been arrested for vandalism long ago.

News / Should Poles become a minority in Poland? [150]

I think Britishness is about having a certain kind of mindset, and not about blood lines.

Otherwise, the current royal family (von Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha) and more than half of the House of Lords cannot be British. H.M.Queen is married to a Greek. Do you want to deport him for being too un-British?

Equally, if it is about blood and ethnicity, most of the North Americans, Australians, New Zealanders and White Africans have to be automatically given British nationality. It is not happening at all, because the British do not think in such a way.

Here in Poland, and perhaps more so in Japan, it's about ethnicity. Wherever you live, you are Polish if you look Polish, have Polish ancestors and speak Polish fluently.

So, a Chinese man who was born in, say, Manchester, speaks English as his mother tongue and behaves completely British is indeed British. A Chinese man who was born in Krakow, speaks Polish as his mother tongue and behaves completely Polish is not regarded as Polish at all.

One of the above two mindsets created an empire, and another didn't.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

I generally enjoy living here, but this sort of misplaced Messianism ("We always defended Europe" thing) and misguided we-are-special nonsense often bug me these days. If Poles are really "superior" by whatever definition that is, why do you guys try to prove it so often?

> Polish food is far superior to the cotton-fluff stuff (white bread), bangers and other chemically treated substances which pass for food in the Isles;

Perhaps because you've never managed to develop any heavy manufacturing industry to speak of, and completely failed to have your own industrial revolution. Food industries included.

> Poles are far less mean and penny-pinching and more hospitable in line with the saying: "Gość w dom, Bóg w dom" -- when a guest enters the home, God enters the home;

But too many try to give incorrect amount of change far too often.

> Contrary to the colonial tradition of suibjugating nations regarded as inferior, Poles have always adhered to the maxim: "For your freedom and ours", -- the belief that a fight for freedom anywhere in the world is a struggle for a free Poland;

You occupied a large area of Ukraine, treated the farmers like cr-p and ripped them off, because over 10% of your people were claiming to be non-working "nobles", and eventually got your a-se kicked by the Cossacks and Swedes. That initiated the process of disintegration of Poland. After that, you anyway have never had any chance of occupying anywhere.

> Poland has traditonally been a haven for dissenters, accounting for the large number of Jews who fled England and other countries of the "enligthened" West to settle in Poland;

No. Jews fled the continent and escaped to Britain, because you treated them like sh-t (my good friend's family inclusive). Britain is the only European country which has a sizeable number of Jewish nobles.

> By and large Poles in the Isles do not dance naked on pub tabletops, vomit on other customers, urinate on the walls of defecate in corners.....

They did in Manchester very often.

News / Non-Polish members - what knowledge does your country have about Poland? [35]

Generally speaking, the Japanese have zero knowledge about Poland, apart from its geographical location and some music - Chopin, for example.

Life / Polish denial of reality - is it a national trade? [117]

I generally like living here, but there are certain things way too much for me.

I've lived in a few different countries, and every country has some bureaucratic troubles. Indeed, Japanese bureaucracy is quite awful. But, I've never experiensed anything like what I've found in Poland.

I've taken a simple amateur radio equipment with me from the UK, for which I have a British/EU licence. I thought about applying for a Polish one, although not quite necessary, and realised that I need a written letter of permission from my landlord. I've never experienced anything like this anywhere. It's almost like from another planet. What has Urząd Komunikacji Elektronicznej got to do with my landlord's f-cking business?

I went to a local whatever office to have my meldunek sorted when I came to Krakow. I went there with a very helpful Polish lady from the HR department and also with loads of stupid pieces of paper, only to see some really rude, stupid and incompetent retards. This means that the general public really tolerate such behaviour. Had it been in tokyo, local governments would've been flooded by phone calls from outraged local residents.

Another thing is a really high concentration of low-life hillbillies.

Some grown-up adults immitate the Chinese next to me. Are they f-cking morons or what? What the hell a bunch of adult men thinking while behaving like that is really beyond me. Is an Oriental man so f-cking rare in Poland because nobody wants to live here or what? Is it commendable to be moronic in this country?

Some retards "tried" to hit me while shouting "white power". So, it somewhat turned my swich on. After some short and very loud bursts of Mancunian verbal abuse, they said, "Sorry" and walked away. Don't they have balls? Aren't they ashamed of being rightwings and having no balls at all? White power? What the hell? If you are so damn great, why did you flood my neighbourhood in stinking Levenshulme, where people usually try to run away from?

Thankfully, my colleagues are really nice and educated (Polish) people.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

I'm here as a complete foreigner, and I don't believe in this multi-cult propaganda at all.

I believe in meritocracy. If a country accepts people with valuable skills from around the world and treat them fairly, that will quite naturally improve the country.

If you randomly accept people from all over the world, only because of some labour shortage, you will only approximate the whole nation to the average of the world i.e. a pool of s-it.

And the point is that there aren't many people who really have good skills..

Love / Love my polish girlfriend alot but under pressure from family [166]

Yeah. Exactly. If you follow their advice and fail, will they take responsibility for that? I don't think so!

In my case, my parents are very open-minded, so that helps a lot. The only thing they say is that my future wife must not be a communist, terrorist, religious freak, politician's daughter or from a yakuza family. LOL.

Seriously, that kind of nonsense was the last thing that I wanted to have in my family home after four years of complete absence during the PhD.

Love / Love my polish girlfriend alot but under pressure from family [166]


Well. The only solution is to marry her and be done with it. F-ck the relatives. If you are sure that they'll beat the c-ap out of you, just honestly tell your girl how impossibly retarded they are, and stay away from your ignorant bystanders who just happen to be blood-related to you. It's none of their business. You are, I suppose, a grown up man, and you can feed yourself and your future wife. Then, why do you need your stupid and backward relatives coming into your way?

I'm saying this as a Japanese man from a very Japanese family. I mean, I can somehow imagine the situation. My grandmother used to make a lot of noise about it. She was telling me all the time to marry a Japanese girl, so I told her that I'd disappear permanently from Japan, renounce all the possible inheritance, cease to be a Japanese citizen and become British if she makes any more stupid noise about it.

So, I have some peace of mind now!

Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]


Here, basically it is assumed that all the predominantly non-white places, including Japan, China, South Korea, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore and Taiwan, are nothing more than rat holes and much worse than in Poland. How astronomically laughable is that?

And, it sounds as if the Poles in Manchester have come because of their love to the British culture, language or religion/s. NO WAY.

Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]


Galicia including Krakow and L'viv was a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. That is why it was not in Preussen.

Life / How do Poles feel about non whites/non Slavs living in Poland? [150]


I'm truely non-white and non-Slavic, and don't quite see any problem here.


And a lot of German and Jewish intellectuals under the Austrian Empire.


Britain has accepted too many unskilled and uneducated migrants from everywhere including very backward parts of the world. I guess it is not really about race or ethnicity, but a total lack of FILTERING.


Gorton, Longsight and Levenshulme Pakistan (a.k.a. Manchester).

I'd rather have a Nigerian man with a PhD in Physics or a hard-working Indian computer specialist in my neighbourhood in Tokyo than a local idiot who can't even write in Japanese properly (like our current Prime Minister, Taro Aso).

What matters is what they are and how they behave rather than how they look.

Work / Soldier in need of advice about using Polish in a new career path. [11]

Study chemical engineering.

For example, UJ and AGH in Krakow provide excellent training in science and engineering. I work with graduates from those universities, and they're more than just brilliant.

Then, you know Polish, English and engineering. That'll make you very employable as there are many foreign manufacturers in Poland these days.

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

It seems we've missed the trend completely.

Japan is still 99.5% East Asian, 98.5% Japanese, and less than 1% Christian. Non-Japanese people from the other East Asian countries are mainly Korean, Taiwanese and Chinese immigrants and their descendants, who anyway speak Japanese and behave Japanese. All the foreign-originated propaganda promoting multiculturalism have fallen on deaf ears. The mantra of "Multiculturalism works" is still quite unheard of, and the ones who have heard it generally thought that it was just another Communist nonsense (as my neighbour has once said, "What? Someone from the jungle in my neighbourhood? Give me a f--king break").

Some argue that we need more workers, but the overwhelming majority disagree with opening up our border to unskilled workers. It's better and actually cheaper to use automation than having ghettos full of welfare spongers all over the country.

Machines can be sold once they become unnecessary, but uneducated foreigners from uncivilised parts of the world cost a lot to the society - even to deport them. We do not need screwed up people chanting "Death to Japan" within our own country or the ones trying to convert us to their religions in our neighbourhood. Why should we repeat the same mistake of the UK and create our own Moss Side or Longsight? We didn't need Somalian gangs to set up Toyota or Honda.

Of course, some highly skilled people come to Japan and work. Many software engineers from India live in Tokyo, for example. Such people are most welcome.

News / Poland will take half a century to catch up with the West [240]

I once came off my motorbike in Manchester, because the Labour-dominated council had installed a totally useless traffic-calming device in a very deserted part of the town without any lighting after dark, and went to the Manchester Royal Infirmary (on my own because the 999 didn't respond at all). I had to wait for two hours, only to hear that I'd have to come back in one week. A week later, the doctor showed me an x-ray photograph, which was a week old, and said that it was a broken collar bone, which of course was. Six weeks after that, I went back there, just to find out that my reservation had been cancelled. Two weeks after that, I went back, and found that my bone was already more or less all right. I knew it, because I was already using my left hand to ride another motorbike.

Where has all the tax money I paid in Britain gone to?

News / Poland will take half a century to catch up with the West [240]


This sounds like a typical German bulls--t. They think everywhere in the east is a s--thole. If you read "the Guns of August" by Barbara Tuchman, you can see how the Germans used to see themselves in 1914, i.e. the most advanced of all nations, socially, politically and materially, but in reality they were 50 years behind the British in industrial development and probably a century in democracy.

You can see they haven't changed much if you have many German friend (I do) regarding the way they see the other nations.... My German friend told me that I was going to hell when I was taking up a job in Poland. One of them has once said that the bullet trains in Japan are copies of Western technology. I readily pointed out that the railways in Germany were first built by the British, thus are imitations of what Stevenson has achieved.

After living in Britain for seven years, I've become very anti-continent. Sorry.

Life / Japanese bands that are popular in Poland. [26]

I grew up in Tokyo, but I have no idea about the bands mentioned in this thread.

News / Polish Japanese relations (history and present time) [90]

I've read this thread with great interests, despite of some racial slurs.

I grew up in Tokyo, spent 7 years in Manchester UK, and am on my way to Krakow for my next job as an engineer. I've been to Poland many times and always enjoyed hosptality and natural beauty of the nation.

Within my family, my greatgrandfather fought the Russians twice in his life time - first as a young artillery officer in Sakhalin and next as a batallion commander in Siberia during and after the Russian revolution, so I guess he was more or less involved in the Japanese operations of saving Polish people trapped there.

As a history geek, my favourite website is
jacar.go.jp
where a huge number of PRIMARY sources are available.

Oh, there's one thing that I used to ask the British who were b----ing about our obvious inhumanity in the past; why were you in Burma in the first place?

Love / How do the polish girls view the turkish guys ? [53]

I'm a Japanese, so a total stranger to this whole pathetic debate, but I'm rather curious to know why the skin colour of Turks is such a big issue.

> Tomek, your explanations are more than funny. White Greek colonies. HAHAHAHAHA But, I congratulate you for your imagination.

Just in case you are really uneducated, I'd like to point out that there had really been a lot of Greek city states around Crimea.

Anyway, the territory of Ottoman Empire covered a very large area of mainly Slavic nations, so it is not of any surprise to find white-looking Turks.

News / I support creation of Great Poland [134]

In "Pivnica" in Subotica, one Montenegrin drunkard said to me, "Why is our country so f--ked up?"

Then, another Montenegrin drinker said, "Because we are f--king stupid."

Following that, a Serbian man said, "Yeah. We like wars, booze and fu--ing."

Having been to my beloved Serbia 5 times and being well aware of Serbian mentality, I still have to say that Poland needs be better not bigger.

And, I am from an inherently rightwing country (Japan)!

Life / Should I take my motorbikes to Poland? [14]

Thanks everyone.

At the end, with a lot of tears I've sold my bikes.

I think I'll buy something really spartan, like a Neval or Ural.

.... or just any g-ddamn motorbike as I cannot live without one.

Life / Katowice: what do you think? [42]

I've been to Katowice and really loved it.

It doesn't have much for tourists, but the locals were very nice and hospitable. It's a bit like a Polish answer to Manchester and Mancunians.

Life / Is it safe for me and my Asian friends to come to Poland? [44]

I've been to Poland five times (or maybe more) and will be moving there, at last, in December.

I'm Japanese, but had no problem at all.

Some years ago in Nowy Sacz, Skin Heads even bought me some beers and drove me back to the hotel. LOL

Life / Should I take my motorbikes to Poland? [14]

Hello bikers!

I'm a Japanese man and have been in Manchester (UK not NH) for seven years. I've just got a job offer from a company in Krakow and will be working there from December (or later if it takes longer for all the work permit mess).

I have a UK-registered Honda CB650 (1982) and want to take it to Poland. It isn't fast or expensive, but I love the air-cooled SOHC motor.

The issue is: Is it easy to have it registered in Poland?

I also have an old 6-volt CG125 that I use as a general run-about, but I'm not quite mentally prepared to ride it all the way to Poland.

Anyway, see you in Krakow.