News / Polish-Hungarian friendship - reality till today or just a phantasmagoria [144]

Here are some simlar words in Turkish and Hungarian.

First, look at this sentence;

English : There is a very small apple in my pocket.
Turkish : Cebimde cok küçük elma var.
Hungarian : Djemben sok kicsi alma van.

Not only words but also the word order is similar.

In Turkish an Hungarian some very commonly used words in daily life are almost same like, I, he/she, come, reach, drink, brave, sea etc.

Turkish English Hungarian English
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çal steal csal cheat
çarp hit csap hit
çat fit together csat buckle
dol get filled tel fill, full
dür fold tür fold
em suck emlö tit, nipple
er reach e'r reach
eş dig a'sh dig
gel come jer, gyer come
git go gyi go [for horses]
iç drink isz drink
kar mix kavar, kever stir
kız grow hot tu"z fire (noun & vb. root)
öl die öl kill
say count sza'm number (noun)
sek skip szök skip, jump
tut hold tart hold
yoğur knead gyür knead, squeeze
sayı number sza'm number
bıçak knife bicska folding knife
ek sow eke plough
kechi goat kecske she-goat
arpa barley a'rpa oats
elma apple alma apple
töre custom törve'ny law
yas (3) mourning gya'sz mourning
batur (4) brave ba'tor brave
ben I en I
sen you te te
o he/she ö he/she
kul aşı gulaş
arslan lion oraslan lion
çok very sok very
küçük small kiçik small

arık > arok
balta > balta
bitik > betU
buGday > buza
burçak > borso
buzağı > borju
dana > tino
deniz > tenger
deve > teve
dingil > tengely
erdem > erdem
es (us) > esz
göbek > köldök
ikiz > iker
kapI > kapu
kepenek > köpönyeg
koçan > kocsany
kurum > korom
Odh (zaman) > idO
oğlak > ollo
Öküz > Ökör
sakal > szakal
sarı > sarga
saz (Camur) > sar
sırt > szirt
sirke > serke
tanık > tanu
tarla > tarlo
tekne > teknö
yaka > nyak
yapağI > gyapju
yel > szel
yüksük > gyüszü

News / Polish-Hungarian friendship - reality till today or just a phantasmagoria [144]

Marek, you are the expert in languages. Respect.

But, history supports Turkish-Hungarian similarities as both nations lived together in todays Chuvash republic, Baskhurdistan and Tataristan before 900 A.D. I am sure you know these nations are all Turkic.

The second clue is before Magyars Avars and Huns were living in Hungary who are Turkic tribes.

Turks and Magyars mixed both in todays Russia and Hungary.

The third clue but the weakest one is Turkish rule of 150 years in Hungary in 16th-17th century.

Now, I don't know if there is any relation between English and Albanian in the history ? But, I think not. So you may call it coincidence.

Turks and Magyars are not brothers maybe but you may call cousins.

One example from similar words was ''sea'' . In Turkish ''deniz'' and in Hungarian ''tenger''. But we know that in ancient Turkish the word was ''tengiz'' which turned to be deniz. So, this shows the relationship of Turks and Magyars are very old.

Your comments pls.

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Yes, true.

Because Turks and Azeris are brothers. Closer than cousins. :))

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Yes, a concept ruled half of the Europe. LOL

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David,

When I visited Budapest, I bought a book '' A brief History of Hungary '' from History Museum.

The first paragragh of the book is;

The language of the Hungarians was basically Finno-Ugric. But while their ethnic relatives withdrew to the northern taiga with its bears and reindeer, the Hungarians-or rather the Proto-Hungarians-remained within one of the main waves, and, coming into the warlike company of the mounted peoples of the steps, moved ever westwards. In the meantime they came into contact with Turkic peoples, amongst others, and became mixed with them.

Anyway, the important thing is what you feel yourself.
If you say as a Magyar I have no ethnic relation with Turks, I feel myself close to slavic and germanic people it is ok.

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Are Lusatians fighting against Germany for freedom ? :)

Turks living in Germany can support their Lusatian brothers :)

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Exactly true.

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Crow, believe or not Germany is not out friend.

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If you ask a Turk, he/she will say Copernicus is Polish.

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Firstly, We Turks are not fanatic muslims.
Secondly, there is not Turkish expansionism in Balkans but we of course support Turks ( living in Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo ), Bosniaks, Albanians, Gagavuz ( christain Turks living in Romania ) when they need help.

All the Turks and muslims are in pressure in Balkans. Of course we do our best to support them.

But, the difference from your point of view is ,
This support is defensive not offensive.

On the other hand, I never heard name of the guy you mentioned. But, I can say he is not Turkish. This example does not show Turkish German friendship.

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Are you sure :)

News / Poland-Turkey Relations, a youtube comment [84]

Very provacative.
I think you can also tell us which song they sing :(

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No, Turks will not rush into Europe.
Turkey has 10.000 USD GDP per capita. Turkey is not a poor country as 40 years ago.
We have to solve income distribution injustice. That's all.
But, I am happy, as a German you underestimate Turkey and Turks.
I wish your government think so. But, they don't. They are very concerned to see a fast developing strong Turkey.

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Turkey has a population of 73.000.000 and member of G20.
By means of GDP 17.th greatest economy of the world.
Belarus, Greece etc. is not in our category.

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For sure it is not :))

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

As I emphasized before Turks in Germany can help their Lusatian brothers.

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But they feel Germans don't belong to Lusatia.
Turks like to be with the weak side.

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

You may not imagine how strong we are when needed.
Turkish history can help you to understand.

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

A German and a Serb can agree against Turks.
Like in the history. You never manage to fight one by one with us.

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]


Germany armed Kurdish terorists in Turkey as well.

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Kosovo is an independent country populated with Albanians.
No risk in her position. Only a III World War may effect the current situation.

For Bosnia-Hercegovina, I think she is not stable and the map will change in 20 years.

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]

Greater Albania ?
We can call it a ''little bit greater Albania''. That's all.

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]


So you think, Turks can enter EU but Kurds can't.

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ShelleyS,

As far as I remember from your previous posts you have prejudices about Turks. I believe most of the Europeans have similar thoughts.

According to me main reasons are ;

1- Turkish people are muslim. Europeans think that Europe is christain.
2- History : In Ottoman times we were a super power in Europe and was a threat for Europe. We invaded all the Balkans, Hungary, some parts of Slovakia and Ukraine and sieged Vienna two times. Turks ruled Balkans for 500 years. Balkans become main land for Turks like Anatolia. All the christain countires allied lots of times in order to remove Turks from Europe. Millions of people from both sides killed.

Europe and Turkey is like thesis anti-thesis.
3- There are 3.000.000 Turks living in Europe. 2.000.000 of them are living in Germany ( 500.000 of them are Kurds). Most of them came to Europe 40 years ago as workers. They were all uneducated villagers and never left their village before. It was even diffucult for them to adopt if they move to a city in Turkey.

They were not accepted good in Europe and as a reaction they try to protect their rural culture. Hatred in Germans brought hatred in Turks.

Europeans think all the Turks are like the ones living in Europe now. I think most of them are not ahead of Turks living in the villages of Turkey. This means this is not their fault.

Personelly, I don't want Turkey enter EU. Because I believe we don't need this EU.

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It seems Germans did a great job and game is over :(

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Interesting. You are getting mature day by day.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

As you see, Turks are the major actor in Europe history.

While you can not write your history without Turks, most of you you still think Turkey is not in Europe.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

One example for poor Germans.

SHARLKEN (CHARLES QUINT V)
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He was born in Gand, on 24th February 1500. When his father died in 1506, his aunt made him Holland King’s regent. After Ferdinand II’s death, he took the administration of Aragon and Kastilya because of his mother’s mental disease. After Sultan Suleyman the Lawgiver ascended the throne in 1520, the Ottoman campaigns in Europe gained speed. King of Hungary and Bohemia lost the Mohac War, in 1526 and Sharlken’s brother Ferdinand became the ruler of the remaining land. In 1527, Sharlken plundered Rome with the German soldiers. He signed an agreement with the Pope and went to Bologna. Pope gave him “Holy Rome-German Emperor” title, in February 1530. Austria lost power because of Sultan Suleyman the Lawgiver’s Vienna Siege, in 1529. Sharlken’s brother Ferdinand was struggling with the Ottoman forces and he lost his authority on the German Princes. Sultan Suleyman forced Sharlken for a war in front of Vienna, in 1532. Sarlken refused it. He campaigned to France. But, he failed. Hence, he gave Spain and Holland to his son Philip. He left Austria to his brother Ferdinand. He went to Spain, in September 1556. Then he isolated himself in Yuste Monastery and died there.

Sarlken wanted to establish a Catholic Empire united under his sovereignty. He fought with the Ottomans and the Protestants on this target. But he failed to unite the kingdoms with different economical, religious and cultural structures.

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BB, don't miss the main point.

Austria lost power because of Sultan Suleyman the Lawgiver’s Vienna Siege, in 1529. Sharlken’s brother Ferdinand was struggling with the Ottoman forces and he lost his authority on the German Princes. Sultan Suleyman forced Sharlken for a war in front of Vienna, in 1532. Sarlken refused it

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

German army escaped from Turkish army. Maybe because you don't like to wear Turkish clothes :)

Meanwhile, in 1683, as usual, Europeans gathered in order to beat Turks as they can not make war one-to-one with us. But, I have to say that we lost mainly because of Poles.