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Joined: 21 Oct 2007 / Female ♀
Last Post: 5 Nov 2007
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From: US for now
Speaks Polish?: very little - it gets better every week
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moonmustang   
21 Oct 2007
Life / Date of daylight savings time change? [10]

Yes seems weird but it's usually a week different between Europe and North America.

Bush changed the rules of the game for some silly reason. Something about conserving energy or whatever. Just to confuse us and make the US contrary to the rest of the world's time schedule.
moonmustang   
21 Oct 2007
Genealogy / Tracking family tree - anyone know any Olian family in Poland? Marek Skawica? [5]

Hi - I have been researching my family tree and found that my Grandfather is 100% Polish. So now I know I'm at least 1/4 Polish.

But...on my grandmother's family I'm hitting a dead-end. I can't seem to track down where they are from. It seems many Polish Jews put Russian on their immigration paperwork - does anyone know why?

Anyway - I'm looking for anyone who may have Olian or Blocher in their family heritage.
All I do know is that according to verbal story many of our family were taken to concentration camps. This seems to make all this geneology a bit harder.
moonmustang   
21 Oct 2007
Genealogy / Anyone Else 1/2 Polish??? [58]

Best yet - figured out the family tree - Polish Jews that put Russian as their nationality. So I have just found out that I am not 1/2 Russian, but 1/2 Polish. That makes more sense because my family is friendlier and happier than most of the Russians I've ever met.

The rest genetically, 1/4 black, 1/8 Irish, 1/8 Cherokee Indian

AKA - Heinz 57, mutt :-)
moonmustang   
22 Oct 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

but now I'm doubting a lot !! Maybe I shouldn't have written this mail, and just tried to meet him again....

liii - you did the right thing - you've been focused on this for a good while and if he is really interested that email isn't going to be a problem. Otherwise, you'll know and the initial disappointment will wear off and you'll move on to something that is possible.

I feel your pain, I'm in a similar situation, only I don't get to see my Polish guy. We only IM and phone every now and then about business.
moonmustang   
26 Oct 2007
Language / Abecadło (The alphabet) [19]

A a : u sound in fun
Ą ą : on sound in long or
: om sound in tom before 'b' or 'p'

Thank you for written this out - i'll start learning with how to say the letters right :-) It may help me to not completely kill the proper pronunciations
moonmustang   
26 Oct 2007
Life / Redheads in Poland - How many? [95]

just back from warsaw and tryied hard to leave a genetic print there (but with no luck lol)

ROFL - I gotta remember that one - grant it us girls can't attempt to "leave" a genetic print while visiting a place ;)
moonmustang   
26 Oct 2007
Love / Bad experience with a Polish Guy who... had another girlfriend :( [49]

The first post is good, but it rapidly declines afterwards!

One of my friends had previously forwarded that same info in the first post from another website :-) After reading that I became a bit apprehensive using it at all - although for the guy that's the topic of this whole thread - I'd say any would work ;-)
moonmustang   
26 Oct 2007
Love / Bad experience with a Polish Guy who... had another girlfriend :( [49]

Oh the swearing - I like the forums.

I'm not exactly a prude - and frequently use the base American version of the word to emphasize a strong point when needed. Then again, I work in an office of all men - so that's bound to be a part of the language. I try to refrain from using it in general - so since I'm trying to learn a new language I'll save it for strongly needed cases :)
moonmustang   
26 Oct 2007
Love / Bad experience with a Polish Guy who... had another girlfriend :( [49]

absolute gentlemen (and drop-dead-gorgeous too!)

Agreed on both counts :)

I've only dated one thus far - he was 1st generation in US from Chicago - he was sweet, but I was second priority behind the Bears and whatever hockey was on TV. Don't know that reflects the average Polish guy though.

I'd say that since I'm in the dating market again, a Polish guy has a better chance than most others as I'm pretty tired of American men in general. I think even if some are rats they are quicker to show it.
moonmustang   
28 Oct 2007
Love / What to do, should I forget her? [14]

In my opinion whatever she represents, you are missing in your life, perhaps not even your personal life but life in general.

I agree the other ladies here - view this as a reflection of what you need to change in your life. Sometimes things are sent to you OR past you simply to get you to wake up and make a shift in your life. They are the messenger and nothing more.
moonmustang   
28 Oct 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

I think you should be his friend. It makes you look like a big person, who can undergo a hurt and recover, and I think it would be offensive to him to refuse his friendship. Then where would you be?

I went ahead and did the same thing as Liii - told this guy what I was thinking. I think I totally caught him off guard. He thanked me for the words and said that he doesn't know what to say. All I know is that I'm now clear of worrying about it and the truth is in the open.

I think if men can maintain friendships with women they know like them more than that as long as the boundary of friendship (whatever that may be) exists and the woman does not push the issue beyond its stated agreement.
moonmustang   
28 Oct 2007
USA, Canada / Americans who call themselves Polish - how do you feel about that? [112]

In America it's just a way to describe your roots. It's not supposed to be taken in the literal sense. It's how we identify ourselves and our family name.

I'd agree with this statement. While my heritage on one side of my family may be Polish I'd never claim I was Polish to imply other than genetics and a bit of a cultural influence because of how closed the community was that my mother came from. In having a good friend who is from Poland, it is interesting how much similarity is between her and my mom on values and family attitude. As a result as I have taken better inventory of my value system, I have seen why I have found conflict between the way I have always been told I should be by the American cultural standard for women and what is at my core value system - which is from my mother's traditional upbringing from "The Old Country".

I think as long as someone isn't trying to claim to be something they are not then as an American it is refreshing to know where your roots are from since America can in itself become so homogeneous and non-descript.

Hence the reason that I look to learn more about the culture of my grandparents and bring that culture back into the future generations rather than forgetting my family's roots. I am inclined to create a marriage and a family with a man of similar heritage rather than continuing to water down an identity to the point where my grandchildren one day look at a family tree and decide that they have no strong tie to any one culture. There is strength in knowing your culture for you then know yourself better and how your choices and values affect your life.

They can live with me as long as they want, I don't mind. Try finding and American who'd say that. :]

Nursing homes are such sad ways to bring a close to a rich, full life. One reason I work - so that I can make sure my parents won't be subject to such a final stage and that they may live comfortably in my home or my siblings home until their last days. So - there are some Americans out there that don't buy the nursing home routine.
moonmustang   
29 Oct 2007
Love / Advice from the guys? English met a Polish guy. [40]

One of my girlfriends contends that ALL men are turned off when a women makes the first move - is that accurate guys? Honest opinions please...

Told the Polish guy I'm interested in that I want to get to know him better - he thanked me for my sweet words and said I made him feel "uneasy" with a smile at the end of his statement. Why wouldn't he just come out and say - sorry not interested?
moonmustang   
29 Oct 2007
Food / Horse Meat - popular in Poland? [36]

my neighbour used to breed nutria

Haven't tried it myself, but knew a Cajun that used to swear by it and say its good. Apparently they run rampant in the bayou of Louisiana and are easy food there.

They look like giant rats!!! YUCK!!!
moonmustang   
30 Oct 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

SO did you get a clearer answer now moonmustang? Or still in the open?

No - still in the open... He's very direct - if he's not interested I cannot imagine why he would not just say "thanks, but lets keep it at a professional level" rather than saying he didn't know what to say and saying I made him "uneasy" with a smile at the end.

My main concern is that perhaps Polish men do not appreciate women being so forthright with them and expect to be the suitor and make the first move....
moonmustang   
31 Oct 2007
Life / Smoking ban - will this be coming to Poland like other EU countries? [183]

they have a law in some US states where it is banned in places where children would possiby be but not in bars...that seems like somewhat of a happy medium - that way you can still smoke while drinking.

Helps keep non-smoking vegetarians happy too :)
moonmustang   
31 Oct 2007
Love / In love with a Polish teacher... [83]

no - don't bring grief to both your lives. Consider it timing - but don't initiate the possibility of him leaving his family for you - it will back fire even if short lived happiness. Spare yourself the drama and be open to creating a positive relationship without that kind of stuff.

Besides...if he left her for you he'll leave you for the next...
moonmustang   
31 Oct 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

Pamlarouge - thank you for that share though. I know that I am not making any more moves. He knows. He wants to initate great otherwise, no more initation on my part.

Want to know what happened when I stopped doing the work? We broke up.

This is really true. As a pattern not to continue this is the hard part. Being the woman to do the work - after all I watched my mother of very traditional Polish upbringing be the woman who always did the work to keep everything happy. She said it was a woman's role. RUBBISH!!!
moonmustang   
31 Oct 2007
Love / Polish interracial dating [333]

Love has no colour. Some people never experience true love in their lifetime. When you find it, grab it with both hands. Don't let go of it. When you are lying in your bed at night and you know that you are at peace in the arms of the person you are with, that is all that matters. No amount of money can buy that. No amount of hate and dissaproval can break it.

Amen!!! First is attraction then the exploration to the point of love. I think if we walk around with too much of a firm plan of what love will look like when it walks up to us - we'll never see it.
moonmustang   
31 Oct 2007
Language / I know Russian language - will it help me learn Polish? [105]

So - if I understand this right - if I learn Polish thoroughly then I may be able to understand some Czech and some Ukrainian? Is that correct? What languages are then easy to learn once learning Polish? Or does the road end there :-) ?

For example the language masculine / feminine in spanish & french are not very different making it easier to learn both languages...
moonmustang   
1 Nov 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

Hold out for the keepers, moonmustang, there are plenty out there, they're just harder to find sometimes :)

Good thing out of all of this is that I have learned to see my core values and what qualities I want and will not settle for less. Having learned my lessons, I'm not so eager to NOT hold out.

While not limiting my options, I do believe in general that based on the general qualities of Polish men they are highest on my "desirable" list for a partner and not "Americanized". Of course, I have to increase the level of difficulty of finding that great guy by being on another continent from where I'm looking. LOL
moonmustang   
1 Nov 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

prefer Europeans because generally they can handle me, and I don't seem to intimidate them :)

That was one of my big "ah ha" moments - had European boyfriends in the past and they were incredible gentlemen and as crazy as this sounds I actually feel like I can honor and respect them. On average, American men have a conflicted relationship with women either chauvanistic or too soft and they tend to let me be the "alpha female" which I really don't care to be. I find that European men (and Polish men because they don't tend to tiptoe about subjects) can actually hold my respect and allow me to be feminine.

Speaking off which - off to renew my passport.

Glad to hear you found your guy :)
moonmustang   
1 Nov 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

Yes - Shawn_H has it right - good analogy. Basically an assertive woman. Usually in the case of American men this creates a pretty big problem because they either feel the need to dominate the woman or vice versa become subordinate to the woman in their life. Sorry any American guys I offend. Anyway - the implication of our earlier conversation is that European men generally don't stand for such behavior from a woman and thus it creates a better balance of clear relationship of man and woman.

I now understand that if a woman acts in the dominant role in a relationship then she taking away from her man the very thing that is one of his strongest assets. In my opinion - its hard to have enduring love, honor and respect in either direction if these roles are out of balance.
moonmustang   
1 Nov 2007
History / Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish [532]

Being Jewish and living in Poland,I must say that,fortunately, the prevailing attitude here is far more progressive, tolerant and intellectually honest than the majority of opinions expressed in this thread.

I'm glad to hear that - here I recently learned that my family immigrated to the United States as "russian jews" but were really "polish jews" and I can say that while I don't know a lot of Poles - I would say that my family behaves and acts like the Polish Catholic families I know in general and that if this much hate exists for people that have heritage in Poland for generations then it is really sad.
moonmustang   
2 Nov 2007
History / Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish [532]

all the depraved and malevolent knaves of the whole world over

Oh let him espouse it - He's giving us an example of his quoted words...bottom line is is good to see what kind of thoughts run through people's minds in the world. Personally, I don't find it offensive but rather entertaining and somewhere educational.

Bottom line, for the energy focused on bigotry and judgment there shows up as failure in the lives of those who do not rise to their own highest potential. Perhaps people who so long focus on how victimized they are because of the presence of Jews would be better served to start seeing what their lives would look like if they took that same enthusiam and opened a business down the street or organized a community (and I'm not talking a group of bigots) for a productive purpose.

My mother's family is Jewish, I was not raised Jewish in faith but I will say that living on the outside of the Jewish community I can see that hatred simply unites any single group of people and focuses them to a cause (whether it is the group hating or being hated). I would say in many ways that includes many of the immigrant groups that I've seen in Chicago and New York. Being that the other side of my family is black and now being able to see the inside of their belief system I see it equally disgusting how they judge and categorically dislike all that are not black and view them as their oppressors. (I was raised by a white-anglo-saxon-protestant step father whose family owned plantations - he raised me to be a bigot which sorely failed on his part)

It makes no difference if someone uses dislike for another race or culture or the entitlement of their own race or culture. Bottom, line we are all born naked, screaming and vulnerable. What we do after our countries, our families and our friends get done with us is strictly on our own volition and motivation. Living under the mask of a religion or using any gospel word as substantiation for human hatred is nothing but a slap in the face of Jesus, Buddha, Allah, or any other human label we have for God. There is not scripture that supports hatred, for the Word of God is not of hate but love. My personal opinion is that before the Second Coming, Apocalypse or whatever catharsis we shall so name it comes forth in the history of man perhaps we should take pause on how man's ability to ignorantly judgment of one human spirit another will the breaking of each man's arrogance to judge others. That includes everyone of the so called pundits he quotes above. Rising to a position of leadership and espousing less than educated words is nothing new - but it creates rallying points for those who are not strong enough of mind and belief to articulate their own words and thoughts.

Crnogorac - may you reflect on the power love as it reflects the light of God and feel that warmth instead of the fuel of hate that you so nicely assembled for all of us to read and have a better understanding of the minds of those less than enlightened beinging perpetuating ignorance in the world. And may a day come where someone who you pass judgment on comes by your way and extends a hand of friendship or support that you will be open enough to receive rather than hold on to empty passion.

Namaste :o)
moonmustang   
2 Nov 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

why is it about domination?

Personally the word "dominate" doesn't quite work - but for both people to have their strenghts is good I think.
moonmustang   
8 Nov 2007
Love / How to get to know a polish guy better? [102]

t seems men get to do the choosing, but we women are more adaptable. I sometimes feel I could fall in love with anyone if I put my mind to it -- don't you? :)

See the trick is to choose what you want before you start looking, then no matter what comes along you know what makes you happy and what won't. I did it backwards for most of my life - which I now realize isn't the way to true, passionate, inspired love. Men may pursue us, but regardless of who pursues who if you aren't into them and they don't move you - don't settle. :-)