Life / Indian moved to Poland [532]

One must keep in mind, however, that the IQ of the average Indian is 81, whereas the average Englishman has an IQ of 100. This information is available on wikipedia, and is based on the research of Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen in their book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations."

I am ethnically "white," of Polish and Italian descent, and would probably blend in pretty well. But I have heard that there is some resentment of foreigners, and especially non-Europeans, in Eastern Europe. I don't know if this is exaggerated, or if there may be some danger from a very small minority of the population. I want to visit Poland, and perhaps stay for a year or two as an English teacher, but I am a little nervous about the resentment some of the young men especially might feel.

I think that many of them believe--perhaps legitimately--that wealthier Westerners, Americans, and others are coming to--quite frankly--steal their women and take advantage of the weaker economy/wealth differential. I think people need to be sensitive to this perception, as it IS human nature. Maybe some of the native Poles could tell us if this is the case? Is the general feeling toward foreigners staying in Poland to work negative?

Love / What do men want with Polish Girls huh??? [72]

These kinds of threads are always controversial. Like it or not, many Western men (as well as Indians, Middle Easterners, and Africans) seem to be VERY interested in marrying Polish and Eastern European women. American and British females have a lackluster reputation; and realistically it's well deserved for many of them. Dressing and acting like Britney Spears (i.e. "sluttish"--forgive the terminology) is problematic. Especially when seemingly every female between the ages of 15 and 35 cops an attitude and ACTS like they're some kind of Pop star.

Unfortunately, the rich Western nations have cultural problems: what Edward Gibbon and Oswald Spengler would call "decadence" and "degeneracy." Men want to have it both ways: loose and easy women while they're young, single, and on-the-prowl, and yet they expect to discover a pristine "Holy Mary" type once they're older, fatter, and ready to settle down.

As much as Western women resent it, the men in the US and Britain don't find many of them desirable as long-term mates. Not because of looks and figure so much as attitude. Women from more traditional and family-oriented societies--the "Old Country"--have the upper-hand. They are seen as loyal, down-to-earth, and good spouse-material!

We all love the slags and Hot-N-Trashy types when we're in college, but then we want to settle down with a REAL woman. This is the state of our junk-culture in the US and Britain.

Love / What do men want with Polish Girls huh??? [72]


LOL! I resent your crude stereotypes about Americans as much as you resent mine about Western (USA & UK) women. (But I think my generalization in the previous post is more accurate.)

Why do people have such a hard time dealing with the concept of GENERALIZATION? I never said ALL American/British women are slags--any more than ALL Americans live in trailer parks--just that IN GENERAL Polish and Eastern European women are perceived as being more "marriageable," pro-family, and down-to-earth when it comes to men and relationships.

I didn't invent this perception, but it's a recurrent theme on this site/forum, so clearly it exists, and it must have come from somewhere. Perhaps it is TRUE? Maybe women from more traditional and conservative societies DO make better partners in some ways. It's worth considering, since more than a few people on polishforums share this perception.

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with Western women per se, it's a matter of culture and environment at issue here. And, while I shouldn't have to spell it out: No, Western women aren't tramps and brats, but I think many here would agree with me that they are less friendly and approachable than Eastern Euros in general.

Love / Do Polish men like aggressive women? [26]

Polish men HATE IT when this happens!

(Actually, I'm only joking, Lucynda. ALL men LOVE this mode of greeting. It crosses all cultural and linguistic boundaries. It's a universal language, really. But that DOESN'T mean YOU should do it! Take the high ground and behave yourself--you'll attract much better material that way.)

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]

Good points, Puzzler and Misiek. It's good to see that there are still people in Europe who aren't fooled by communist and socialist propaganda against the Church and the Polish nation. I don't speak Polish, and cannot judge the supposed "antisemitic" content of Radio Maryja directly, but I am very skeptical about reports in the junk-media that allege this.

I must agree with Puzzler that the Polonophobia coming from some elements of the Jewish community--while never recognized or pointed out in the media as such--is at least as great, if not greater, than the possible anti-Jewish sentiment on the part of some Poles.

My gut-feeling regarding the "Radio Maryja controversy" is this:

The radio station is a legitimate and courageous hold-out of the REAL Catholic church in Poland, and Father Rydzyk has more character and bravery than most priests for standing up for traditional culture--against the New World Order, Amerika-kultur, E.U.S.S.R. or whatever you want to name it.

The anti-national and anti-religious leadership of the E.U., as represented by the WProst and other papers, are against the Catholic church and especially Radio Maryja because it represents an alternative to their purely secular, socialist, and materialist vision of the future. Radio Maryja represents one of the last vestiges of true Polish identity--both religious and national--and the new E.U. elites do NOT believe in religions or nations. (In this respect they are Polonophobic.)

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]

I don't see what all of the sniveling and whining are about--Radio Maryja is a single contrarian news source. It has a small audience and budget. All of the other news sources are free to spout their pro-EU, one-world, modernist garbage. I'm glad Fr. Rydzyk is struggling for the Polish nation and its traditional culture. I only wish they had an English-language service.

As far as the alleged "antisemitism," this accusation is likely political in nature, and may well be entirely fictional. Christophobia and hostility against the Polish nation on the part of the new EU elite are the REAL factors here.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]

You claim to be better informed than I am, so why don't you explain the situation to me? Give me your best and most honest analysis, using what you KNOW to be reliable information and leaving out personal opinions: What is wrong with Radio Maryja?

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]



So in other words, you don't know what you're talking about?

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]

You're absolutely right, Misiek. The "New Europe" (the whole West, in fact) is nothing to get excited about. I don't see much of a future for the younger generations...

UK, Ireland / Are British people really interested to integrate with Poles? [92]

It's interesting reading about people's experiences with different nationalities. Some of the female posters have commented that Eastern European and Russian men tend to be more warm and approachable than British and American ones. Likewise, British and American men find Slavic women to be more personable and polite.

I agree with these perceptions, and I think the major reason is the strength of feminism and extreme individualism in the West. Relations between men and women in the UK and America have been polluted in some ways, and a strange dynamic of resentment and competition exists between the two sexes. Another factor are the media in the West, especially sleazy TV-news programs that are constantly fear-mongering their audiences about men being potential rapists, predators, and pedophiles.

The Eastern Euros have a real advantage in the romance department, and it's not just the accent! I think they are more used to cordial and comfortable relations between men and women, where the two sexes are able to play their natural roles. They haven't been paralyzed by the political-correctness-cult that exists in the USA and Western Europe, where men are afraid to hold the door or pay for dinner on a first date because the woman might find it patronizing and insulting! (I know it sounds ridiculous, but these are just two of the more extreme examples.)

Anyway, in my experience immigrants and visitors to the USA and Britain from more traditional and non-politically-correct societies often get along well with the opposite sex, and are far more casual and relaxed in their interactions with others. It's a shame that the culture in America and Britain has become so neurotic that people are afraid to speak and act freely and naturally.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


Eastern Europe has not become fully-Westernized, and has not integrated completely into the global junk-culture. I think America and Britain are neck-in-neck in the race for national and cultural disintegration. Germany and the Netherlands are not far behind, along with the rest of the wealthier Western nations.

In Eastern Europe there is still some semblance of communal life--the Catholic church is not yet dead in Poland, unlike in Italy and France--and people still want to start families. The Easterners still take pride in their ethnic identities and national heritage, while we Brits and Americans have been made to feel ashamed of ours.

In any case, those are the philosophical reasons! On a more practical level, I'm a fairly young guy--soon to finish grad. school--and the prospects here are not great. America becomes MORE expensive and LESS livable with each passing day. What a deal!

Regarding the TEFL/ESL thing, I like the idea of a 25-hr. work week (or thereabouts), and enough of a salary to afford a room or studio and still have money left over for fun. Where I live that's impossible. Also, this will be my last chance to really travel, before getting tied down with a career and family, so why not take the opportunity?

Anyway, my apologies (ukpolska) if I seemed like I was getting worked-up over the Radio Maryja thing. In all honesty I don't know a huge amount about them, except that they are conservative, pro-family, and pro-national, and do NOT want Poland's popular culture to become a wasteland like America's. Maybe they are crude and laughable in some ways, but I sympathize with their fears. Polish identity--symbolized by the Catholic church--sustained the nation and gave the people hope throughout the miserable Soviet experiment. It would be a shame if that identity and tradition now evaporate in the face of Western cultural promiscuity.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


Thank you for the invitation, ukpolska! If I do end up in Poland in a year or so, I may well take you up on it. I understand that you've been teaching English for quite a few years, and I will be sending some questions your way in the English-teaching threads.

As far as the "Eastern European" terminology in regard to Poland, Shawn_H has answered it for me. Not only is this a Cold War division, but it is also an academic and historical one in British and American texts.

I am currently reading a book called The Civilization of the Middle Ages, which one would assume covers medieval history over all of Europe. Instead, as in the previous book I read (Origins of Modern Europe), the focus is almost exclusively on Britain, France, Germany, Italy, and Spain (and in this order of importance as far as the space dedicated to each). Even in books ostensibly devoted to "European History," anything east of the Oder river is only mentioned in passing, and even then it is considered in relation to German history.

Anyway, my point is that the Eastern/Western divide is standard in American and British academia, at least in the material I'm familiar with. It also plays into the historical Germanic/Slavic divide, post-Roman Empire, and the Western Christendom/Eastern Orthodox separation. (Of course, these divisions are always sloppy, since Catholic countries like Poland, Romania, and Croatia fall into the "Eastern" world.)

By the way, as long as I'm talking to Poles and Europeans, and am too lazy to check Wikipedia at the moment, what are the official or main religions/churches in the Czech Republic and Slovakia?

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]

Thanks, Grzegorz. I would have have guessed Czechia was Catholic...I still have a lot of research to do on Eastern Europe.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


LOL! Is that sarcasm my Spidey Sense detects?


I understand your point, Puzzler. But this division isn't as laden with significance as you seem to think. "Eastern Europe" has never been a derogatory term. It DOES imply former Soviet rule, and with it a sense of economic under-development, as well as cultural differences vis-a-vis "the West."

As Poland and other countries become more and more a part of the "mainstream" in Europe, this distinction between East and West will likely disintegrate. But thought-models die hard, and there is still value and meaning in these divisions, especially in Britain and America, where they are part of our understanding of history, artificial as they may be in many ways. If we didn't have the Eastern/Western Europe "model," we would have another simplification, and it would have its own uses and limits.

In any case, why is Poland so eager to be a part of "the West," anyway? In case you haven't noticed, Westerners are in a state of terminal decadence and decline. At this point, the prefix 'Western' is DEROGATORY! Radio Maryja, for example, has NO counterpart in America and Western Europe. The conservative ideas that you presumably admire in that organization are all-but-dead in the West. If Poland falls too closely into the EU-NATO orbit, then she will NOT be Poland much longer.

Your history books will be re-written, and Polonophobes in Brussels will shift more and more of the Holocaust on YOUR shoulders, telling your nation that it must accept hordes of non-European refugees and immigrants to "expiate" for its supposed sins. Needless to say, this would be a FARCE and a TRAGEDY.

Some may think this is absurd, and I hope it is. Still, we should be ever-vigilant...

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


Thanks Puzzler, and I wish the same to you. As far as standing up to the new communists, I intend to do my part, however small it may be. Good luck to you--and I'm sure we'll "speak" again on the forum!

Food / Hot tea in Poland; where can I find it? [46]

'Earl Gray' is the best as far as I'm concerned.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


An American journalist named Joe Sobran once had this to say: "An 'antisemite' used to be someone who didn't like Jews. Now, it's someone the Jews don't like!"

He lost his job soon after... ;)

News / There is no Muslim in Poland [116]

Great points, Mirek. Funny how no one seems to care about what the Europeans and Americans feel about immigration to their countries, and whether or not they would like to preserve their nations and cultures instead of being blended into an international rabble.

News / There is no Muslim in Poland [116]

Of course it is true that Native Americans had settled the continent--thinly, in terms of numbers--before the Spanish and English settlers arrived. But now there is a status quo. This is true of most every nation or region on the planet. Humans migrate and some groups push out others.

But at any given time, there is a status-quo that most people want to preserve. Despite all the clap-trap about "diversity" and "multiculturalism" being so wonderful, they can also cause tension, rivalry, and violence between populations.

Nations like Japan, Finland, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark have the lowest crime rates in the world, and it is no coincidence that they are extremely homogenous in terms of race and culture.

News / Puzzler, what are your TRUE thoughts on Poland and it's place in the EU? [29]


Spot-on, Puzzler. I think this post captures the sickness of the West clearly and bluntly. It's sad that our academics and journalists in Europe and America are too cowed by 'Political Correctness' to write and speak the truth. (And the few who ARE brave enough to stand up for the sovereignty and cultural integrity of their respective nations are smeared and persecuted without exception.)

I hope that most Poles are as skeptical of the EU as you are. There is little doubt that the apparatchiks in Brussels are only too willing to spread the multicultural and anti-national disease to Poland and beyond--as if the record of such policies in Britain and America has not been a complete and utter failure!

News / Puzzler, what are your TRUE thoughts on Poland and it's place in the EU? [29]

Unfortunately, economic and technical issues are not my strong suite, truthlei. I have very little insight into the questions you are discussing here, and I have not read the thread related to these subjects yet. I'll take a look when I have the chance, but I probably will not be of much help!

Most of the issues I've referenced have to do with culture and immigration, which are easier to analyze in my opinion.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]

You're pretty much right on, 1st generation. There are many people like you and I who recognize this, and if we can get the word out, we can help Poland to keep its life-affirming and pro-family culture. I don't want Poland to become the cultural cesspool that the US and much of Western Europe have become, either. Somewhere in the West there must remain at least a few sane countries that hold out against the liberal-socialist disease, and where NORMAL people can live safe and productive lives.

Life / Opinions about Radio Maryja [134]


Haha--no bet, I don't have that kind of money to throw around! But take a stab at it anyway--I'm curious what you think.


You've never offended me, Puzzler. We think alike on a lot of issues, and I tend to agree with most of your posts. In any case, I have no problem with honest criticism and even hard words, as long as the discussion is rational and polite. (And it has been with you.)

As far as your invitation to come to Poland, I intend to--and who knows(?)--I might end up staying...

Finally, regarding the 'West' terminology, I'll discuss my reasons for it later--I don't quite have enough time at the moment, but I'll be back on the thread later.

News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

As an American, I can assure you that neither Obama, Clinton, or McCain care in the least about Poland. They only care to the extent that Poland allows the USA to build anti-Russian, "missile-defense" shields on Polish territory.

In exchange for using Poland as a market for American junk and NATO installations, Poland will receive little or nothing in return, although the major politicians and executives will probably receive large bribes. For them it will be worthwhile.

Meanwhile, the Polish people will become the new front-line target in any future war or conflict between the USA and Russia (if they accept the new American missile installations).

Poland will be wise to play the USA and Russia off each other, and navigate a clever path between the two giants. Neither empire has Poland's interests at heart, they are simply competing over it as strategic territory.

Love / BLACK GUYS POLISH WOMEN [809]

People who love each other should date and marry who they want. At the same time, however, Polish women should understand that blacks have lower IQs than whites, and the children of a black-white pairing will usually be of lower intelligence and social status than the children of 2 white parents.

A Polish women, or any white woman, who has mixed-breed children is condemning them to a lower social status and less wealth and success in life. This is a serious consideration, even if the black father has a job and stays to raise the child, which is rare.

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

Hilarious Franek! A picture is indeed worth a thousand words. Please, Poland, PLEASE don't make the MISTAKE Western Europe and America have made. Keep useless immigrants out of your country if you want a future for yourself and your children.

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

They are a big concern, Przemas. It is not just "rhetoric" as the Communists at the BBC or CNN would like to present.

Third World immigration costs us all in terms of crime, health care, education, etc. We have to pay for it, and suffer the loss of our quiet and pleasant nations.

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]

Poles, Germans, Russians and ALL white, Christian countries should be allies in the face of alien immigration. The petty conflicts of European nations are no longer important in the face of the colored Horde that is invading the West.

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]


This is a fact of human existence. Different groups (religious, racial etc.) come into conflict when they occupy the same space. They compete for power and resources. This is not, contrary to your glib assumption, unique to Europe.

In Iraq, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd compete. In Africa Tutsi and Hutu slaughter each other with machetes. In South America the European elite is right-wing and the indigenous people embrace socialism and Communism. They struggle against each other. Tibetans and Chinese oppose each other in the East.

Welcome to reality.

In Europe there are serious gulfs between the native, indigenous people and many Islamic immigrants. The more homogeneous a country, the less fighting there is. Look at Japan, Finland, and, until recently, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. All homogeneous nations with almost ZERO crime. When was the last time any of these countries had a civil war, or any serious internal conflict?

The more racial, religious, and linguistic differences there are in a country the more potential there is for conflict. That's why Europe doesn't need Africans, Chinese, Indians, etc. Europe is already populated. It already has a culture.

This house is occupied. Sorry.

Przemas, as I understand it, Germany is firmly against Turkish membership, and Sarkozy in France seems to be more open to Turkey, but still negative. Only the United States is aggressively pushing for Turkish membership in the EU. Europeans don't want it.

Funny about the US government backing Turkey's bid to join the EU...the last time I checked a map the United States was NOT a part of Europe. Let's hope the Europeans have the guts to tell the US government to "[censored] off."

News / Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners [324]


You are asking a great question here, and unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough to give you a simple answer. It is clear that the US is pushing for Turkish membership, or at least it is doing so officially. It is harder to say why, considering that Europe's needs should far outweigh Turkey's.

Turkey has close relationships with the US and Israel, in military and commercial terms. Oil pipelines from the Caspian region are being built through Turkey to bypass Russia, and this is related to the war going on now between Georgia (a US client) and Russia. These pipelines benefit Israel, Turkey, and the US strategically at the expense of Russia.

To put it as best I can, Turkey is very close to the US and Israel commercially and strategically, and the US is rewarding Turkey's cooperation by backing their bid to join the EU.


Absolutely right, Rychlik!