Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Who were European natives? What happened to them? Where they are? [79]
I'm sure of it!!! Yup!
Rohan maybe realy existed, in some ancient world
I'm sure of it!!! Yup!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
At the end he even wished for all Germans to perish as they were not longer worthy of his cause, as they had disappointed him...
Even at the expense of terminating life, the most heinous thing imaginable??
At the end he even wished for all Germans to perish as they were not longer worthy of his cause, as they had disappointed him...
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Who were European natives? What happened to them? Where they are? [79]
Rohan never existed??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BTW Lord of the Rings is fiction, Tolkein made it up
Rohan never existed??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Him personally I only know through witness reports...he must have had an incredible charisma (or it was just a real bad case of "power makes sexy")
I think he had some psychological problems but I believe he really believed in what he said, he was no opportunist.
He thought the cause, his cause, justified EVERY means, without scruples.
Oh, btw BB, what is ur opinion of Hitler?
Him personally I only know through witness reports...he must have had an incredible charisma (or it was just a real bad case of "power makes sexy")
I think he had some psychological problems but I believe he really believed in what he said, he was no opportunist.
He thought the cause, his cause, justified EVERY means, without scruples.
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
You mean the elections of 1932 where the Nazis just got 33 percent:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_November_1932
But then came this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_1933
Bratwurst are you sure about the 43% figure. Without bothering to google I'm fairly sure it was around 35% for one election and lower at the 1933 election which the Nazis "won"
You mean the elections of 1932 where the Nazis just got 33 percent:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_November_1932
But then came this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_1933
The election took place shortly after the Reichstag fire, in which the German parliament was set alight, allegedly by a Dutch Communist, Marinus van der Lubbe. This event had the joint effect of lowering the popularity of the Communist Party (KPD), and enabling Hitler to persuade President Paul von Hindenburg to pass the Reichstag Fire Decree.
This emergency law removed many civil libertiesand allowed the arrest of the leaders of the KPD shortly before the election, suppressing the Communist vote and consolidating the position of the Nazis. Hence, the fire is widely believed to have had a major effect on the outcome of the election.
This emergency law removed many civil libertiesand allowed the arrest of the leaders of the KPD shortly before the election, suppressing the Communist vote and consolidating the position of the Nazis. Hence, the fire is widely believed to have had a major effect on the outcome of the election.
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Oh get stuffed with your "german solidarity", we so don't need that!
What a drama queen...
Oh get stuffed with your "german solidarity", we so don't need that!
What a drama queen...
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Well...somehow contradicts this notion of yours:
Fanatics who couldn't be bothered to vote for their "Messias"???
As I said, it was bad is it were no need to mystify it!
Your 43% is a statistic which dont show much. There are many factors... young people who dont vote. Voters who dont bother to vote. Low turnouts... is not something new. Its always been there in Europe.
Well...somehow contradicts this notion of yours:
In a quote taken from my grand father 'It seemed their souls were exchanged to something unseen and unheard of.. their eyes were filled with rage...all the time it was filled with ignorance and the brow showed a glimpse of pride which had never been seen before...but could be easily recognised
Fanatics who couldn't be bothered to vote for their "Messias"???
As I said, it was bad is it were no need to mystify it!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Who were European natives? What happened to them? Where they are? [79]
The Cro-magnon
As you write regularly whole threads about history you should know that...
Then, who replaced Neanderthals? Humans? Which kind of humans? What was their race?
The Cro-magnon
As you write regularly whole threads about history you should know that...
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Says who?
You are beating a dead cow here...(again!)
now talk that Nazis were not German.
Says who?
You are beating a dead cow here...(again!)
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
What we object to is your dramatic genius evil/soul thingie...
He and some around him were smart politicians who could tap into the needs, fears and wishes of the people (43% of them).
He used it to get to power and later to control all the might of this big, developed country (a madman on the top of some backwater hole could scream till he get's blue in the face without much effect).
So far so bad....no need to mystify it!
What we object to is your dramatic genius evil/soul thingie...
He and some around him were smart politicians who could tap into the needs, fears and wishes of the people (43% of them).
He used it to get to power and later to control all the might of this big, developed country (a madman on the top of some backwater hole could scream till he get's blue in the face without much effect).
So far so bad....no need to mystify it!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
In all communities which got de-nationalised and put into other often hostile countries because of some treaty, fear of communists, a strong wish for stabilizing the economy, getting order back on the streets etc. etc. ec....
I can understand those who voted for him!
In all communities which got de-nationalised and put into other often hostile countries because of some treaty, fear of communists, a strong wish for stabilizing the economy, getting order back on the streets etc. etc. ec....
I can understand those who voted for him!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Well...for many Germans he was the saviour! The situation after WWI was downright ****** for many, Hitler promised to make it right again...cut the drama!
Well...for many Germans he was the saviour! The situation after WWI was downright ****** for many, Hitler promised to make it right again...cut the drama!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Who were European natives? What happened to them? Where they are? [79]
Pagan nature religions....the real thing!
Pagan nature religions....the real thing!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Who were European natives? What happened to them? Where they are? [79]
You mean the Neanderthals? Citizens of Neanderthal (today Germany) ?
You mean the Neanderthals? Citizens of Neanderthal (today Germany) ?
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]
Manno...I thought you would like my contributions! :(
*slinks dejectedly into corner*
Manno...I thought you would like my contributions! :(
*slinks dejectedly into corner*
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]
And who is behind France? Right....those devious Germans! It's all their fault I tell ya!
I should add that primarily France is to blame for Buttiglione case.
And who is behind France? Right....those devious Germans! It's all their fault I tell ya!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Well...it was called National SOCIALISM!
And the Nazi party had some nice socialist sounding things planned...just read their program:
The full text of the 25 point program
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
Well...it was called National SOCIALISM!
And the Nazi party had some nice socialist sounding things planned...just read their program:
The full text of the 25 point program
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]
I'm a nice guy under my helmet! :):):)
Thank you for helping me with adding new post.
I'm a nice guy under my helmet! :):):)
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]
Did you ever try? :)
I can't make carrer in european politics because I am Catholic.
Did you ever try? :)
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]
It's ze Germans again...all the fault of those pesky Germans, I tell ya!
Why it is not possible to have personal christian views ?
It's ze Germans again...all the fault of those pesky Germans, I tell ya!
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Most Germans really don't care if it's called Nazi or German...change it if it means so much to you!
*yawn*...as Greg would say. :)
I don't see reason to change hiostory books on more politicaly correct to make history nicer for Germans. I have done what they have done why we need to soften history.
Most Germans really don't care if it's called Nazi or German...change it if it means so much to you!
*yawn*...as Greg would say. :)
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
With Israel counting on that...
The Germans made that choice and they bear the responsibility.
With Israel counting on that...
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
There is no genius in tapping in on the wishes and fears of people....every politician does that!
Why???
Some inherited guilt???
Do you expect parents to admonish their kids: "Eat up little Fritz, remember what your great grandpa did!"
Or the teachers in school: "And you better do your math housework correctly...remember Auschwitz!"
Or the politicians to the people: "You better support Israel regardless of what it does right now and what you think about it because of the Holocaust!"
Do you mean that?
Yup...that's why all these memorials in the midst of the capital...all these museums etc...sure...just for fun! Nobody knows actually why there are here..
It was the work is an evil genious. He knew where the evil inside was hiding...and he was successful of bringing it out. He knew about the elements of pride...or respect... or ego and ignorance...which still exist in all of us.
There is no genius in tapping in on the wishes and fears of people....every politician does that!
But there are youth who would expect a better behaviour from some German youths.
Why???
Some inherited guilt???
Do you expect parents to admonish their kids: "Eat up little Fritz, remember what your great grandpa did!"
Or the teachers in school: "And you better do your math housework correctly...remember Auschwitz!"
Or the politicians to the people: "You better support Israel regardless of what it does right now and what you think about it because of the Holocaust!"
Do you mean that?
Germans are hardly teaching their children about the History of WW2.
Yup...that's why all these memorials in the midst of the capital...all these museums etc...sure...just for fun! Nobody knows actually why there are here..
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
...because they thought they did the right thing, the good thing...imagine that!
How long do you want apologies?
What gives you an apology by people who had nothing to do with that???
I know it will surprise you (and I am known to be a very liberal and tolerant man) but its just a recognised event that most germans of that generation agreed to hitlers ideals, and adopted it as their own. They volunteered even! Old and Young! Happily...singing!... Just read the love letters that I posted (the second post of this thread).
...because they thought they did the right thing, the good thing...imagine that!
and an apology my our German neighbours (decendants of those who did wrong).
How long do you want apologies?
What gives you an apology by people who had nothing to do with that???
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Well...in the last open vote it was barely 43 percentwho voted the Nazi party (he HAD a quite nice program, not "evil" at all and he played on the fears of a communist takeover alot)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_1933
What about the rest?
But I request you to study more (if you are so interested) before coming to a conclusion, on why and how people supported Hitler in Germany. As far as I know, it was not just because of those simple promises.
Well...in the last open vote it was barely 43 percentwho voted the Nazi party (he HAD a quite nice program, not "evil" at all and he played on the fears of a communist takeover alot)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_1933
What about the rest?
Bratwurst Boy
28 Sep 2008
History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]
Well...you can say "Germans" if you like....who cares???
It always boils down to the "Germans", not even "Austrians" wanting to have something to do with that now...and everyone and their mother being a resistance fighter against the bad occupiers, never enthusiastic collaborators! :)
I agree there was not much differentiation...Hitler was very popular, for many different reasons and not only in Germany!
Luki likes to see problems where aren't any It seems...
Well...you can say "Germans" if you like....who cares???
It always boils down to the "Germans", not even "Austrians" wanting to have something to do with that now...and everyone and their mother being a resistance fighter against the bad occupiers, never enthusiastic collaborators! :)
I agree there was not much differentiation...Hitler was very popular, for many different reasons and not only in Germany!
Luki likes to see problems where aren't any It seems...
Bratwurst Boy
27 Sep 2008
History / Only two countries in Europe did not accept XVIIIc partitions of Poland.. [54]
Then you will all be one happy family when they start to come over whereas Germans will be glad to see the backs of them....all win! :)
Then you will all be one happy family when they start to come over whereas Germans will be glad to see the backs of them....all win! :)
Bratwurst Boy
26 Sep 2008
News / Poland has an old ambition to become a regional power [37]
What "event" for f*ucks sake???
We are still talking about a small cemetary for german war dead!
There are thousands of them in Russia and nobody makes a drama out of it!
What "event" for f*ucks sake???
We are still talking about a small cemetary for german war dead!
There are thousands of them in Russia and nobody makes a drama out of it!
Bratwurst Boy
26 Sep 2008
News / Poland has an old ambition to become a regional power [37]
Again..."What provocation"?
There will be a memorial cemetary build outside the camp for killed german soldiers in said camp...AND????
Of course are Germans going to take care of it...we have the "Kriegsgräberfürsorge" who takes care of german war dead cemetaries in foreign countries....so do other countries too as they care and finance the memorials to their own soldiers in other countries!
volksbund.de/kgs
What is your problem???
How does such memorial "push the Baltics into russian hands"???
Please be more clear....
Here are photos of cemetaries for german soldiers in Russia also cared for by the german Kriegsgräberfürsorge!
(You can find alot of info of that....google is your friend)
panoramio.com/photo/10225273
Baltiysk, Kaliningradskaya Oblast' (Russia)
panoramio.com/photos/original/10225273.jpg - Cemetary for fallen german soldiers in Russia
(How horrible....I wonder why Russia didn't invade already)
What a provocation...
volksbund.de/kgs/land.asp?land=99075
Again..."What provocation"?
There will be a memorial cemetary build outside the camp for killed german soldiers in said camp...AND????
Of course are Germans going to take care of it...we have the "Kriegsgräberfürsorge" who takes care of german war dead cemetaries in foreign countries....so do other countries too as they care and finance the memorials to their own soldiers in other countries!
volksbund.de/kgs
What is your problem???
How does such memorial "push the Baltics into russian hands"???
Please be more clear....
In the same moment you sponsor such projects in current situation. You provoke Russians and create their agression.
Here are photos of cemetaries for german soldiers in Russia also cared for by the german Kriegsgräberfürsorge!
(You can find alot of info of that....google is your friend)
panoramio.com/photo/10225273
Baltiysk, Kaliningradskaya Oblast' (Russia)
panoramio.com/photos/original/10225273.jpg - Cemetary for fallen german soldiers in Russia
(How horrible....I wonder why Russia didn't invade already)
What a provocation...
volksbund.de/kgs/land.asp?land=99075
In den zurückliegenden Jahren konnte die Lage und der heutige Zustand von 813 Kriegsgefangenen- und Interniertenfriedhöfen in 37 Gebieten Russlands erfasst werden. (Stand 31.12.2005 ) Bisher konnten in der Russischen Föderation ohne ehem. Ostpreußen über 100 Soldatenfriedhöfe, Kriegsgefangenen - und Interniertenfriedhöfe gebaut bzw. instand gesetzt werden.
Laut Planung wird in der Russischen Föderation noch ein Sammelfriedhof im Gebiet Smolensk bzw. in einem Smolensk angrenzenden Gebiet gebaut. Nach einem geeigneten Grundstück wird gesucht.
Laut Planung wird in der Russischen Föderation noch ein Sammelfriedhof im Gebiet Smolensk bzw. in einem Smolensk angrenzenden Gebiet gebaut. Nach einem geeigneten Grundstück wird gesucht.