Travel / Best time to visit Zielona Gora? [11]

I dunno. In spring the greenery is still kinda not there.
I'm not sure about the vines they used to have in Zielona Gora, but that being one of the attractions (the northermost pplace in Europe where they planted vines) late Summer would be a bit more like it. Also, in Summer they have some kind of music festivals. Worth looking into it too.

I lived in Zielona Gora about 15 years.

Travel / Best time to visit Zielona Gora? [11]

End of summer is a good time, that's when they have the wine festival (winobranie), if they still do.

Life / Bloody Priests in Poland... [58]

In Poland there was a joke about the very issue:

A young woman get on a public bus with her 7 year old son. The little brat is not very well behaved. He kicks other passengers, spits at the bus windows and in general is a big time nuisance. Some passengers begin to protest to the mother. In response she says it is her child, she if giving him proper upbringing and will not put the kid in line since she believes in liberal approach to children as to not inflict any stress on them.

At the next stop a teenager, just about to leave the bus, pulls the young mother by her b**bs, by her nose and then slaps her on her a**.

- "My parents also had a liberal approach to my upbringing" - he says, as he leaves the bus.

Life / Polish Divorce laws and stigma attached to it [21]

If they have been separated for two years then (other than division of property) the divorce would likely be a formality.

I'm not sure how laws work now that Poland is in EU though.

If there is property in Poland then I gather they may have to ask Polish courts to help them chop it between the two, as British Courts have no jurisdiction over properties located in Poland. They could sell the property and chop the doe in half, or go for a dozen other alternatives. That's just my rambling here. You need to ask someone who knows, perhaps a legal adviser in the Polish consulate somewhere in UK.

Life / Polish Divorce laws and stigma attached to it [21]


I can't speak about the cost since I got divorced in 1983 so I gather prices changed since then.

As for the process itself. It all depends on the circumstances. Usually, the first court meeting is an attempt of reconciliation, or rather making sure the two parties really know what they are doing. That's just a formality though in most cases, as I assume most people who file for divorce don't do it just for kicks.

After that the judge will hear if both parties still want the divorce. If they do, the case can be settled right there right then. My divorce took two sessions, and the second session settled it. There is a waiting period of 30 days, if I remember well. That time is meant to allow for any possible details and or claims that did not transpire during the last session. If neither party makes further claims, nor presents and additional information which could potentially change the final outcome of the divorce conditions (mainly financial or custodial) then this is it. In my case, we filed on Oct 1st. and by Dec 6th we were friends again.

However, if the financial situation is complex, or if there is a custody battle (kids) and if the parties appear to have a hard time to agree on the conditions then it can drag for months, rarely years.

Life / Polish Divorce laws and stigma attached to it [21]


If the house was purchased while the marriage was in force then the house (or its value) is split evenly. Doesn't matter who paid for it, or whose name is attached to it. The only material goods which are not debatable, but rather belong to one of the spouses are personal items (clothing, cosmetics), items required to perform their employment related activities etc. If there is an overlap in those (for instance when both spouses are car racers but there is only one car) then the value is split evenly between the two, or as the judge deems appropriate.

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


Turczyn is an older version of the word, harldy in use anymore. So a long while ago "turczynku" would be grammatically correct and it would be a diminutive form of "turczyn".

a side note: turek used to be Polish slang for someone not so well put together intellectually, and it was in use still some 20 years ago (not sure about now). The origin of the word in this use resulted from the differences between the cultures and lanuages which made communication and understanding hard.

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


Yup, those were the languages of Europe, not India.


Correct. Normans came from Europe, not from India.
Now, do you all live in little replicas of Taj Mahal?

Let's look for some examples of the "ovewhelming" influence of Indian architecture on London:
greatbuildings.com/places/london.html


Other than the statement being a bit of an exaggeration, all modern democracy (including that of UK) had other examples to take from. Greece and Rome are certainly not on the Indian subcontinent either.


A vile and useless comment.


The subcontinent gave UK nothing. UK took what it wanted and what it could get away with. However "little" Poles gave Britain, they GAVE it to Britain without Britain having to invade Poland first.

History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]


Kinda late in the game, don't you think? Jews tried to get to other countries (UK among others) since Krystal Nacht. It wasn't an obscure event. All major newspapers, including British ones, run the story on their front pages. In 1942/43 Eden, the British Parliament, British religious circles and media were informed about the extermination of Jews from none other than a Catholic Pole - Jan Karski. Few believed him. Those who did looked the other way.

Karski was an undeground fighter who volunteered to be smuggled to Auschwitz to document the plight of the Jews and to later report it in the West. The West did not care. The British Parliament gave the Jews a minute of silence. "That's all we could do", said one of the British MPs (I have the video interview with the champion of pro-Jewish spirit in Britain. The recording is a part of "The World at War", a BBC series).

They could do much more. In fact Polish Jews, co-operating with Zegota (a division of Polish underground Home Army, the only European underground organization created solely with the purpose to help Jews during WW2) proposed bombing Auschwitz and other camps. Such action wouldn't change the fate of those already there - Jews and Poles - but would prevent further systematic extermination.


No, you didn't. Other posters did after you mantioned that "we in Britain went loopy and burned dozens of them alive was in 1300". Therefore you are a liar. Alternatively, you chose to have selective amnesia within one single thread. In either case, you are not a reliable debater.

Btw. your choice to descibe what happened to Jews in Britain in 1300 is quite different than the words you use to descrive their situation in Poland. "Loopy". Damn, the British Jews must have been some touchy fellas. You go loopy just once and they leave for hundreds of years. Interesting. Or perhaps you "forgot" to mention some other signifficant events where Brits went "loopy"


I didn't. I don't even know what "grammer" is.


As I said before; you are blinded by it and don't seem to be able to think straight.


Cryptic? As cryptic as English expression for Jews, such as kike, mock or hebe?
But, in fact, I know what you mean. The gesture is used by many non-religious Jews in NYC. That's where I first saw it. I never saw it in Poland.

Again, you are trying to be more Jewish than Jews. It won't work. You will never come even close to becoming, or being regarded as one of them. Jews are considered smart, intelligent and worthy opponents in a debate. You display none of the qualities and by your continuous and blanket homophobia you do not further anybody's cause, but you merely satisfy your hunger for nastiness towards anybody who points out your arrogance and incompetence on the subject.

That's pretty much all I have to say to you and I won't respond to any more of your posts, unless they offer some substance and are fact based. By facts I mean verifiable statements, not the statements that you think are true.

שָׁלוֹם

Feedback / Gowno, Sh.it etc. -- auto-censoring bad words on forums [20]

That was a quick response!
Keep on thinking. I'll check back on you here in June.
Don't be late.

Love / How can I conquer a Polish woman? [84]


OK, OK.
As for any conquest, you need to start with the proper garment. Let us know when you get it and then we'll tell you the rest.

Try some of these fashions: zbroja

History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]


That is a good point. The Statute of Kalisz, issued in the 13th century and subsequently reaffirmed a number of times, gave some Jews, and under some circumstances, all Jews more rights than a Polish peasant could hope for.

Imagine if that was a case with Poles in Britain...
Oh wait! Poles don't have the same rights as Brits and yet anti-Polish sentiment is not hard to find in the UK.

Love / How can I conquer a Polish woman? [84]


Damn, it works!!!

Oh well, I'm married. Gotta try it at home ;)

Love / How can I conquer a Polish woman? [84]


OK, let's do some field testing:

Wyspianska! I want you!

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

aren't we all, eh? :))

@southern

you're right in some points, wrong in others. Too laze to respond now in a serious way, but I'll catcha later.

Love / How can I conquer a Polish woman? [84]


I like that one. It's a sure sign that she is dealing with a man of character :)


You mean to get her drunk first?

Love / How can I conquer a Polish woman? [84]

Why not?
Isn't an erection a sure sign of true love and devotion?

Love / How can I conquer a Polish woman? [84]


Isn't it too early to just go ahead and press her "special buttons"? ;)

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


That is correct. But that is not an automatic indicator that Stalin did sought, or was even preparing the USSR for a war against Germany. In fact the Soviets tried to convince Germans to go to war against Poland since 1920's. His efforts to increase industrial output and create a meaningful military strength, IMO, is not a good indicator of any specific wars, targets, or perceived aggressors. For a country such as the USSR it was simply prudent to work towards having a strong military.


1941 was not the first year of war.


That was also in 1941 after the German attack, and almost two years after partisan forces well already pretty well organized in other parts of Nazi occupied Europe.

UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]


That's one way of putting it. Another way would be" UK took the most out of..."

Still, let's see those less important European contributions that today's UK could have done without:

- English language
- original population that actually built the country (English and Normans)
- religion
- urban development
- technology (not everything was invented in UK, can you believe that?)
- science
- alphabet
- literature
- political systems

should be enough for now.

Now take all the above out and what do we have left? Curry powder in place of Oxford University?

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


It certainly did, but are you sure it happened before the German attack?

Also, Soviets helped Germans restore and develop their military might on the Soviet territory since 1920's. I can't see how that fact would support your idea of Stalin's hunch about the German's attack on Russia. If the hunch was true indeed, why would he help Germans to arm themselves?


Again, agreed that all these things happened. But the question is that of timing. Stalin was a great (albeit shrewd) politician but he made his share of mistakes.

History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]


Because on both sides we have too few people like you. People who see, understand and focus on parallels rather than differences.

History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]


With constant outbursts of laughter (as you so often begin or end your posts), and your declared uncontrollable urinating at the sight of PF posts you should find it comforting that we all understand. You might want to see a doctor one of these days though.


Poland lost 6.5 million citizens during WW2.
3 million of them were Polish Jews, 3.5 million were non-Jewish Poles.

Do really Poles blame themselves for being decimated during WW2? Do they blame Jews for being decimated by Germans?


Of course you wouldn't say that Jews were flocking to Poland. According to you they were always leaving Poland. Not a single Jew ever came to Poland though.

Do you even have a concept of your absurd approach to all this?

As a matter of fact Jews started leaving due to the more and more obvious future they faced in the light of Nazi Germany right next door. Besides, they really didn't have too many places to go to, did they. All the "champions" of democracy and freedom let symbolic numbers of Jews in. UK certainly was not at the forefront of saving Jews during, and shortly before WW2. It was known for its anti-semitism.

Most Jews in Poland were there because either themselves, or their ancestors were persecuted in countries such as Spain, France, Germany and UK. And these are facts. You never address them or respond to them.


Stranger things have happened. My friend's husband is Irish, she is a Jew and she laughs at him for being more zionist than any Jew she ever met, and surely, she has met a few.

The moment you use words such as "in built bigotry" (grammatically correct should be built in, though) then you expose your own. Your hatred towards Poles does appear uncontrollable, so while it is possible to have a semblance of a civilized conversation with Kaliszer, you are certainly not a partner for discussion.

I cited historical facts. You did not address a single one of them. You continue describing you outbursts of laughter and bladder problems, but you never address the topic with honesty and integrity, so don't bring Kaliszer into this. You don't come even close to his ability to present an argument. Hatred blinds you, so you project your own faults on others - you blame the victims.

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


Not by him perhaps, but still...
I really like that language:

Life / Polish Songs related to Hope [29]

History / Jewish love towards Poles [389]


You go ahead and pee in your pants for whatever reason you choose. Your own words clearly point to your thinly veiled anti-semitism.

The largest European Jewish population before WW2 lived in Poland. According to you, they flocked there from the West which (again, according to you) was more favorable to Jews than Poland, where (according to you) blatant and cruel discrimination awaited them. What's more, Jews were stupid enough to have been doing it consistently for hundreds of years, generation after generation.

You obviously don't hold Jews in high esteem, but suggest that they were utter fools, for who else but a fool would trade a place in (Western) heaven for Polish "hell".

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]

I think in Old Dutch it meant barren cow :) I don't remember that particular spelling though.

OE was quite a beast when I had to learn it. A first year student of English Philology in Poland I was a little bit in for a surprise when the first text they asked us to read and be ready to discuss was Beowulf. I have to admit that at the time I had to read it with the modern English version right next to the OE one.

Strangely, the historical linguistics was taught a year later. Two semesters of what initially seemed like mute exercise in some strange languages, but as time went on it all made sense and I found the history of language (English and in general) probably the most exciting part of my English studies. It's been years though so I'm not so sure if I could pronounce OE with any degree of fluency anymore.

Language / Polish Case System [32]


That sounds like weird Polish. Both are grammatically correct. Neither has any significant use in everyday Polish. "Ku" in general is falling out of grace. It is used mostly by the older generations of Poles, and those younger Polish speakers who live abroad and know Polish from their grandparents.

The natural collocations here would be:

- podejść do stołu
- przyjść do stołu

Marek's suggestions are also correct and frequent.

Language / What language do you like better, Polish or English? [71]


That's because Normans who conquered Britain were in fact descendants of "Northmen" (Vikings) who by 1066 were christianized and adopted the French language under the influence of the local population.


You are correct in general but I'm not sure if this particular word proves your point. The final "e" in the word queene was actually at one time pronounced. The word comes from OE cwene which was pronounced 'kwene where the final "e" was not mute.

Language / "sorry" instead of "przepraszam" [76]


I was able to find this collocation only on one website. The link pointed to your own posts on PF:)