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Sokrates   
7 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

This is factually incorrect. There are no figures or statistics that support this statement.

Peter that is of course incorrect, what is correct however is that Jews turned en masse towards the Soviets and that NKVD units involved in singling out and disposing off Polish target groups were uniformly consisting of local recently Polish - Jews.

The vast majority of Polish-Jewish society was passively supporting Russians, a minority decided to volunteer for the dirty work, this alone shows the validity of my issue with Jewish loyality.

If there were more than a handful of Jews in Poland i'd myself work actively towards some sort of a verification action, having Jews who do not feel Polish as citizens of Poland has proven to be dangerous and damaging in the past thats why if there were more of them they'd deserve special attention in the present.

As it is there's so few of them that they're non factor and they can believe whatever they want, they're not a socially relevant minority anymore.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

As much as it pains me, I have to say Harry is right on this one small detail.[feeling pain]. The murderous Soviets were on the other side of the river.

No one is disagreeing, however we are saying that Soviets murdered Home Army soldiers that they found, both those that crossed the river and those already present on the other side.

Harry is the one who invented Vistula tunnels:)
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

Sokrates, I think you're specifically talking about Zionists and, let's be honest, at this point in history, there are none of them left in Poland.

Have you ever read "Forum Żydów Polskich"? These people message each other in private to establish a common strategy in discussions about polish anti-semitism.

There's also comments like "i'm a relgious Jewess i'd never marry a catholic", lovely little place where polish jews get together.

I think you're harking back to the pre-war era when Jewish Zionists had no homeland.

I'm talking about learning from history, its always good to learn on your own mistakes, history shows that treating Jews as Poles was a mistake, the minute they got a chance there was a mass turncoat movement in which they allied themselves with Stalins Russia.

think 'feeling a connection' is far to heavy handed.

Not really, it all boils down to what you believe in, if a Jew feels he is Polish and is ready to declare "Poland is my country and none other above it" Israel included, than in my eyes he's as Polish as you can get.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

The film says nothing about Poles escaping from tunnels and being shot by the Red Army as they came out. You are a pathetic liar Carol.

4:55 To the east Soviets were doing the same ( on shooting Poles ) please pay attention or was the english too difficult?:)
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

In addition to 1568th Polish Flight, No. 148 and No. 178 RAF Squadrons and No. 31 and No. 34 Squadrons of the South African Air Force made supply flights.

233 sorties? Thats nothing both in terms of supplies and flights, 4000 containers? In terms of both RAF capability to supply and the demands thats token support, just about enough to say "we did help" but nowhere near the amount required or even noticeable.

So yeah Allies did not help except for a token symbolic support.

Also nice for you to come forth with a number, i knew it but i wanted you yourself to dispel those magical "hundreds":)
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

and who is going to check their thoughts?

Ask them

Thats why Jews should undergo simple national verification after which they would be listed as Polish-Jews or simply Polish citizens, i dont really care what you were born but what you believe in, we also have to take our history into account, Jewish betreyal of their Polish co-citizens gives food for thought about differences between Jewish citizenship and Jewish nationality.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

says not even a single word about Poles escaping Nazis, coming out of tunnels and being shot by Soviets. You are pathetic.

You mean Home Army?:)

Stop with the lies Carol. That film (and I have watched it all, I especially liked the bit where they ignored the hundreds of non-USAAF supply flights to Warsaw)

Could you please post a link to those hundreds of USAAF flights? I know that some random flights by Polish volunteers from RAF were done as well as a token few flights by RAF but these were if anything purely symbolic in proportion.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

Being a Jew does not make you an Israeli. Jewishness is NOT a "nation".

Jewishness is a matter of religion however their faith see's Israel as their holy land and perceives every Jew as its citizen even if only in spiritual way also nationality and citizenship are different matters, citizenship is a question of international law, nationality is the question of spiritual and cultural self indentification, based on that Jews that feel connection to Israel cannot be considered Poles.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

In order to meet the Soviets after exiting a tunnel which they had used to escape the Nazis, people would have needed to cross the river

Excuse me but what are you talking about right now? I believe we've made it clear that the only tunnels were the sewers under Warsaw, the polish Home Army had no business in crossing the river either since the fight was on their side.

Your stupidity is reaching levels which make your trolling very obvious, please try harder next time.

Temper Harry, you may not like me, i certainly dont like you but we can still pretend to be civil for the benefit of others:)
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

You are overtly anti-semitic and severely uneducated. The idea that sewers run under the Wisła reeks of stupidity.

And where did Celinski write that there were tunnels under Vistula? He just said tunnels aka sewers and Poles were indeed evacuating via the sewers, i'm not responsible for what you invent in your own mind though:)
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

Leading on from Harry's question; would you say it's possible to be a Polish Muslim, Polish Buddhist, Polish Protestant?

Leading on from you not knowing what the hell you're writing about, religion does not define nationality.

Why don't you share with us your views that blacks can not be Polish, that Roma can not be Polish, that gays can not be Polish?

Neither does race, Jews are a peculiar phenomenon in that they're a nation beyond the borders of their own country, therefore one needs to declare himself whether he's a Jew with Polish citizenship or a Pole with Jewish roots.

You cant be both Pole and German for example, yes you can have two citizenship but there's still one nation you'll have to choose.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

You're either a Jew with Polish citizenship or a Pole with Jewish ancestry, you cannot be a Jew and a Pole at the same time, luckily knowing our right wingers these books wont last more than a year or two:)
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

Didn't some of Berling's Polish 1st Corps paddle across the Vistula to help?

Yes against the orders of the high command.

Didn't some of Berling's Polish 1st Corps paddle across the Vistula to help? But they were mown down by German fire not Soviet bullets.

No they were not, they made it through and joined the AK units, the second wave was stopped and failed to establish the bridgehead because Russians would not provide fire support and forbade polish artillery to do so.

Carol, if you had ever been to Warsaw you would know how laughably stupid your statement is. Really. Just look at a map of Warsaw, note where the Soviets were (right bank) and count the number of tunnels under the Wisla (none).

He meant sewers, and crossing Vistula would be pathetically easy for the Red Army, they had such number of artillery they could shield their engineers without any effort.

There were also a couple Russian liason officers that were parachuted into the Polish lines—so they weren't being gunned down by Soviets?

As i read your posts i realise that you're either covertly anti-polish or simply severely uneducated, the so called "liason officers" were dropped either to direct the movements of communist partisants or to make contact with AK units so they could later be easily identified for pacification, Russia provided no organised support for AK and no support in any form at Warsaw, they were just another invading enemy army.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

Russia was extermininating Polish. Look at the death toll on the Polish side and who was doing the killing from start, during and after the war.

Killing not exterminating, Russians were murdering people who'd they view as obstacle, Germans would just kill everyone so there is a difference but that still doesnt mean we owe Russia anything but a middle finger as far as WW 2 is concerned.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

They've liberated it from Germans and lets face it German plans for Poles were rather gruesome, we'd be exterminated so Russia did save us from genocide and degradation but their alternative was no rose and candy either so russian veterans can kiss my ass as far as respect and gratitude.

Yes it was Stalins doing but they served him and mark you they personally couldnt care a broken penny for Polish independence and simple human freedoms.
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

The ordinary Red Army soldiers were heroes

Yes they were.

We owe the Red Army a huge debt of gratitude and respect for that sacrifice;

They've liberated Poland yes but the way they did it and what USSR did afterwards denies them any claim to gratitude or respect, at least from the countries that became the later "Warsaw Pact".
Sokrates   
6 Mar 2009
History / Russia to outlaw criticism of WWII tactics [57]

lol Do you think the people will react to this and if you do how?

Boooyah! Our soldiers were heroes!! Do not underastimate the power of the soviet troopers running through a minefield to heroically clear it!

Most of them actually swallow that crap so they'll just pat the guy who came up with it on the back.
Sokrates   
1 Mar 2009
Love / Whose Life is it? Polish girlfriend under family "house arrest" [224]

You simply don't have the linguistic or cultural or practical knowlege to do so safely.

Oh come on its not like we're going to mug him...oh wait.

As a bonus, you have no idea how to recognize dangerous situations in Poland, and the warning signs are not necessarily the same as in other countries.

Bollocks, our agressive bums are the same as agressive bums everywhere, the fact is though that the if he goes to Poland the girl will get honest with him and i imagine her getting honest would involve "its really best if you forgot me" or something like that.
Sokrates   
1 Mar 2009
Love / Whose Life is it? Polish girlfriend under family "house arrest" [224]

That we cant do anything until they stop watching her movements and they think that we have given up !

You know it really hurts me to praise Justyna for anything after her absolutely moronic comments about polish men but she gave you some good advice.

i read this and i just can't understand how all of this girl's family AND her supposedly estranged ex are keeping her hostage. if she wanted to get away she'd pack a bag, go to the police and complain.

Take that to your heart, the best option is that the girl is using her family and her partner as a means to dump you, the worse option is that she's a spoiled little cunt who has her relationship back home but enjoys your concern or attention, one way or the other the situation is her doing and her family and ex have very little to do with it, i wouldnt be suprised if atm they're all laughing at you.
Sokrates   
28 Feb 2009
Love / Is sex with Polish guys different to sex with English guys? [173]

I think it is ; )
What do you lot think??

We're able to please sixty women at the same time waggling one eyebrow meaningfully.

Do they have two dicks or something?

Only the really effeminate ones, the manly ones have clusters of huge penises, like 20 or 30, and they're sentient and sing the polish national anthem while at it.
Sokrates   
28 Feb 2009
Love / did i push him away [36]

out there can tell me did he like me or use me as I hate looking in my sons eyes (he's the spit of him) and feeling such regret

I was only excersizing very bad humor thank you, but i am going to lend you a piece of my briliant mind regardless.

If I've lost him forever isn't an issue really as I felt I never had him but it is his fault that his son has lost him forever as he just couldn't be bothered and with that being the case he would be worth having cause family value is very important to me as they are the only true people you can count on to be there for you when the shit hits the fan.

The fellow didnt use you per se, basing my responce on your description of the entire situation he is simply an immature twat who's nowhere near a moment in life where he can settle down also he probably didnt treat you as a potential partner rather than a casual shag, whereas you being lonely saw in him a man you'd like to be with his fucked up character ( to which you were and still are blisffully oblivious ) notwithstanding.

You didnt lose him, you never had him however the guy is a largely negative person and many years will pass before ( if ever ) be becomes capable of true deep connection, as hard as it is being a single mother fuck him, he'd be a destructive burden on you so be grateful you parted when you did raise your kid and wait for someone better.