Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]
Gumishu how about you cut to the chase and tell us whats your point?
Gumishu how about you cut to the chase and tell us whats your point?
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
Nope, it was Norwegian steel, American parts, Russian oil, all of 'em shipped by sea.
@Gumishu i'm too lazy so you can knock yourself out, and Gumishu if Germans did not care what we say or if our relations werent important to them then Steinbach would get her nomination.
And THATS responsible policies, Steinbach is starkly anti-Polish opposing Polands accesion to NATO and EU, she would be bad for our relations, in this particular case we knew better than some Germans and we excersized our leverage to avoid it.
Insulting Germans over WW2 and playing on Polish anti-German sentiments like Kaczyńscy did is NOT responsible policy, just because our voice matters doesnt matter we should be screaming like kids all the time.
So yes Germans treat us as partners, there's negative sentiment in Germany, there's one in Poland too but we're treated as partners and with Kaczyńscy we did not excercise responsible partnership ourselves.
....it wasn't the Navy marching on to Warsaw...I think....
Nope, it was Norwegian steel, American parts, Russian oil, all of 'em shipped by sea.
@Gumishu i'm too lazy so you can knock yourself out, and Gumishu if Germans did not care what we say or if our relations werent important to them then Steinbach would get her nomination.
And THATS responsible policies, Steinbach is starkly anti-Polish opposing Polands accesion to NATO and EU, she would be bad for our relations, in this particular case we knew better than some Germans and we excersized our leverage to avoid it.
Insulting Germans over WW2 and playing on Polish anti-German sentiments like Kaczyńscy did is NOT responsible policy, just because our voice matters doesnt matter we should be screaming like kids all the time.
So yes Germans treat us as partners, there's negative sentiment in Germany, there's one in Poland too but we're treated as partners and with Kaczyńscy we did not excercise responsible partnership ourselves.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
Like blokade the harbors? Destroy the German navy? Blockade the merchant fleet? Nah you're right they couldnt do any of those:)
Yes, because the British could have done so much to prevent Poland from being occupied by the Nazis and Soviets in 1939, couldn't they?
Like blokade the harbors? Destroy the German navy? Blockade the merchant fleet? Nah you're right they couldnt do any of those:)
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
That would be later, Kościuszko first fought in the War in defence of the Constitution, then went to America where he was instrumental in several crucial victories, then returned to Poland to lead the inssurection, afterwards he was imprisoned.
In that case US owed to Paul I, he freed Kostushko from SPb's jail.
That would be later, Kościuszko first fought in the War in defence of the Constitution, then went to America where he was instrumental in several crucial victories, then returned to Poland to lead the inssurection, afterwards he was imprisoned.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
Unless we're talking about my relatives murdered by Russians then no i dont owe you anything, Poland does not owe you anything either since you annexed our eastern provinces and drained our economy for half a century.
Living a normal honest life 'is' helping my country:)
By the way you realise that US most likely exists because of a polish officer Kościuszko who's fortifications allowed you to win multiple critical engagements, he built West Point too, looks like you owe Poland a good chunk of your independence war effort:)
Actually? You owed for us . Because first our grandfath. saved you from germans and made it possible for you to live and eventually we withdrew our troops from poland letting to live you by your own.
Unless we're talking about my relatives murdered by Russians then no i dont owe you anything, Poland does not owe you anything either since you annexed our eastern provinces and drained our economy for half a century.
LOL! This thread gets better all the time. Now how can anybody be more deserving for helping Poland? Socrates pays his taxes. Now that is one hell of a contribution. Your country must be proud of you.
Living a normal honest life 'is' helping my country:)
Now Russians coming to your rescue. It looks like Poland is a natural loser. Not to worry, when Socrates grows up he will come to Poland's rescue.
By the way you realise that US most likely exists because of a polish officer Kościuszko who's fortifications allowed you to win multiple critical engagements, he built West Point too, looks like you owe Poland a good chunk of your independence war effort:)
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
I pay my taxes and vote regularly for the party i believe will serve my country best.
My grandparents, not America, good we're making progress:)
Ask yourself this question. What did you ever do for Poland?
I pay my taxes and vote regularly for the party i believe will serve my country best.
It was your grandparents, and parents that made it possible for you to exist today. You are free loading on their sacrifices..
My grandparents, not America, good we're making progress:)
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
We dont, USA never did anything for Poland that was not in US interest and then again nothing significant.
You could argue they hastened our NATO inclusion but that would happen anyway.
We dont, USA never did anything for Poland that was not in US interest and then again nothing significant.
You could argue they hastened our NATO inclusion but that would happen anyway.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
Apart from the fact that you're a mindless moron continously spewing nonsense on these boards, Poland is the greatest prospective ally of US in the coming decades, France is not interested in pro-US policies, Germany is facing an impeding crisis as its social system collapses with the weight of aging society while Poland retains its dynamic.
In other words Poland is the local European power of the next generations, antagonizing it by overexploitaiton might result in USA losing any political leverage in Europe in the 21st century.
As it shoud be.
Apart from the fact that you're a mindless moron continously spewing nonsense on these boards, Poland is the greatest prospective ally of US in the coming decades, France is not interested in pro-US policies, Germany is facing an impeding crisis as its social system collapses with the weight of aging society while Poland retains its dynamic.
In other words Poland is the local European power of the next generations, antagonizing it by overexploitaiton might result in USA losing any political leverage in Europe in the 21st century.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]
But lost nothing as well, if Kaczyński continued his policy of antagonizing Germany would become a serious opponent of Poland, we dont want overly negative sentiments in Germany for no reason since they're a crucial economical and political partner, like it or not few things happen in Europe without Germany and its going to be like it for a few more years.
That disagreement comes from Germany seeing significant economic issues while being blind to long term catastrophic results of this pipeline, but as Germany sees it we're simply refusing for the sake of it, Germans do not have a grasp of Eastern politics and Russian policies.
Germany is our partner as in it works with us in many fields, it doesnt mean it will immidietaly concede to any of our demands, thats what diplomacy is for.
No, i mean not asserting our power and leverage over petty issues like Kaczyńscy and PiS did.
What interests did Kaczyńscy defend? They caused the russian meat embargo, they've alienated Poland from its Western partners and they destroyed any perspective of gains from the missile shield by being ready to actualy pay for its installation.
I'm sorry but they never defended our interests, they damaged them.
As for "currency options" the goverment is in the wrong, i absolutely agree, as for the dockyards though we did not have much choice though i think we should defy EU at any cost over this issue.
I do agree that Tusks goverment is incompetent but branding it "the worst" is simply wrong, Kaczyńscy were a much much worse option while SLD was simply criminal in its excerise of power.
normalised relations with Germany (hmm - gained nothing in the process)
But lost nothing as well, if Kaczyński continued his policy of antagonizing Germany would become a serious opponent of Poland, we dont want overly negative sentiments in Germany for no reason since they're a crucial economical and political partner, like it or not few things happen in Europe without Germany and its going to be like it for a few more years.
Germany does not treat Poland as a partner
if it would there would not be the whole issue with the Nord Stream
if it would there would not be the whole issue with the Nord Stream
That disagreement comes from Germany seeing significant economic issues while being blind to long term catastrophic results of this pipeline, but as Germany sees it we're simply refusing for the sake of it, Germans do not have a grasp of Eastern politics and Russian policies.
Germany is our partner as in it works with us in many fields, it doesnt mean it will immidietaly concede to any of our demands, thats what diplomacy is for.
responsible democracy - wow (you mean standing in the line, not causing trouble to the big fish)
No, i mean not asserting our power and leverage over petty issues like Kaczyńscy and PiS did.
to me being laughing stock as long as my interests are defended is somewhat irrelevant (you can laugh at me all along as long as you pay me my say salary, dowry whatever)
What interests did Kaczyńscy defend? They caused the russian meat embargo, they've alienated Poland from its Western partners and they destroyed any perspective of gains from the missile shield by being ready to actualy pay for its installation.
I'm sorry but they never defended our interests, they damaged them.
As for "currency options" the goverment is in the wrong, i absolutely agree, as for the dockyards though we did not have much choice though i think we should defy EU at any cost over this issue.
I do agree that Tusks goverment is incompetent but branding it "the worst" is simply wrong, Kaczyńscy were a much much worse option while SLD was simply criminal in its excerise of power.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
Love / Advice from Polish Girls please :) [54]
As a polish man, living with a polish girl, dating polish girls all his life i can tell you that anything that'd work on say, Chinese girl will also work on her, there is absolutely no "polish pick up lines".
Here's real advice though, dont ask women on how to pick them up, they'll tell you how they'd love to be picked up by their dream prince on a white horse but you're not one so their way is not the way to go.
Polish girls typically find it cute if a foreigner tries something in Polish to impress them, if you have Polish friends talk with them let them teach you a single cheesy phrase in Polish like "you're absolutely beatifull" or something, that will catch her attention in a much better way than chatting her up in English, then you can switch to English and if you have a chance at all thats your shot right there, sweettalk yourself into a date and you're soon shagging a straight from the shelf Polish girl.
MORE ADVICE FROM POLISH GIRLS PLEASE:)
As a polish man, living with a polish girl, dating polish girls all his life i can tell you that anything that'd work on say, Chinese girl will also work on her, there is absolutely no "polish pick up lines".
Lol is that how you polish guys score? No wonder so many polish girls are over here:) I would try your charming customary tradition but:
Here's real advice though, dont ask women on how to pick them up, they'll tell you how they'd love to be picked up by their dream prince on a white horse but you're not one so their way is not the way to go.
Polish girls typically find it cute if a foreigner tries something in Polish to impress them, if you have Polish friends talk with them let them teach you a single cheesy phrase in Polish like "you're absolutely beatifull" or something, that will catch her attention in a much better way than chatting her up in English, then you can switch to English and if you have a chance at all thats your shot right there, sweettalk yourself into a date and you're soon shagging a straight from the shelf Polish girl.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
You mean willingly? A country thats goverment is ready to pay America to be exploited?
Name me a country which isn't exploited by forces within America? De facto, I agree.
You mean willingly? A country thats goverment is ready to pay America to be exploited?
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
I'm not playing around with definitions, pro forma Poland and US of course are allies, de facto we're however an american client which allows itself to be exploited.
What purpose do we have to achieve against Afgani Talibs? Its not like terrorists are any serious threat, so they brought down two skyscrapers (probably since evidence is controversial) thats not really WW3.
Well, I see what you are saying, Sokrates. Still, according to definitional terms,
I'm not playing around with definitions, pro forma Poland and US of course are allies, de facto we're however an american client which allows itself to be exploited.
Poland agreed to fight in the War on Terror. This fits the description of 'for mutual benefit or to achieve some common purpose'.
What purpose do we have to achieve against Afgani Talibs? Its not like terrorists are any serious threat, so they brought down two skyscrapers (probably since evidence is controversial) thats not really WW3.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
Love / Advice from Polish Girls please :) [54]
No seriously you take a huge slimy tuna straight from a freezer, walk up behind her and *SLAP*, an old polish custom, very romantic.
Seriously? That's why I asked for advice from Polish Girls:)
No seriously you take a huge slimy tuna straight from a freezer, walk up behind her and *SLAP*, an old polish custom, very romantic.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
Yes it does, i'm not blaming America, i'm saying that US was never sincere in our mutual relations and its our politians fault that they failed to see it, USA is a (relatively) malevolent empire, treating them as friends or allies is simply stupid.
America was never an ally, it was a business partner, an alliance was always there to further USA interests and US interests only, if Poland benefited along the way, good for us but it was not an important part of that 'alliance'.
I'd say Poland was and still is a client state rather than an ally.
you surely can't blame america for that.. that's all i am saying.. in business deals size doesn't matter.
Yes it does, i'm not blaming America, i'm saying that US was never sincere in our mutual relations and its our politians fault that they failed to see it, USA is a (relatively) malevolent empire, treating them as friends or allies is simply stupid.
and yes, america was a great ally while PL was under the communist hardship.
America was never an ally, it was a business partner, an alliance was always there to further USA interests and US interests only, if Poland benefited along the way, good for us but it was not an important part of that 'alliance'.
I'd say Poland was and still is a client state rather than an ally.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
First of all we're a country of 38.5 milion people, US has a pop of 300 milion, we are NOT equals, Poland cannot and should not antagonize US, whats happening is not US fault they're playing out their imperial ambitions, its our previous goverments fault for not being able to achieve a beneficial solution.
Also lets face it Poland should stop treating US as a friend, America was never our friend or our ally, we're a tool for them and thats it, the relations need to become more business like on the Polish side.
First of all we're a country of 38.5 milion people, US has a pop of 300 milion, we are NOT equals, Poland cannot and should not antagonize US, whats happening is not US fault they're playing out their imperial ambitions, its our previous goverments fault for not being able to achieve a beneficial solution.
Also lets face it Poland should stop treating US as a friend, America was never our friend or our ally, we're a tool for them and thats it, the relations need to become more business like on the Polish side.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
The main mistake of Poland in general and Kaczyńscy in specific was not demanding a higher price, in fact Kaczyńscy were ready to pay for the base construction which is ridiculous, we could have gotten significant military modernisation projects out of the dealm instead the ruling party when US came up to **** them in the ass paid them to do it longer.
The main mistake of Poland in general and Kaczyńscy in specific was not demanding a higher price, in fact Kaczyńscy were ready to pay for the base construction which is ridiculous, we could have gotten significant military modernisation projects out of the dealm instead the ruling party when US came up to **** them in the ass paid them to do it longer.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP. [79]
He normalized relations with Germany and to some extent Russia, brought back the abroad view of Poland as responsible democracy.
Nothing of note, the point is what they havent done, Kaczyńscy aggravated international relations with virtually everyone around, made Poland a laughing stock of Europe and ****** us up with the missile shield completely destroying the negotionation process so yes Tusks cabinet is MUCH better mainly because of not being so horribly inept.
Read above, make no mistake, Tusks goverment is bad but its a lesser of two evils, they're bad mainly through inactivity whereas PiS actively destroyed our international relations.
It's been almost a year... What this man has done ?? Anything !!??
He normalized relations with Germany and to some extent Russia, brought back the abroad view of Poland as responsible democracy.
So what they have done... ?
Nothing of note, the point is what they havent done, Kaczyńscy aggravated international relations with virtually everyone around, made Poland a laughing stock of Europe and ****** us up with the missile shield completely destroying the negotionation process so yes Tusks cabinet is MUCH better mainly because of not being so horribly inept.
And your arguments for clowns called Tusk's government are... ?
Read above, make no mistake, Tusks goverment is bad but its a lesser of two evils, they're bad mainly through inactivity whereas PiS actively destroyed our international relations.
Sokrates
6 Apr 2009
News / Poland. Sold for nothing. [341]
I disagree with you CK, normal relations with current Russian goverment are, for Poland at least not possible, Russia requires a level of concession on Polish part thats impossible to accept so we didnt aggravate our relations since they're broken from the beginning.
I'm not sure the shield was worth it, personally i'm all for rationalizing Polish-USA relations but saying Russia is capable of normal relations and that the shield somehow influenced them is plain rubbish.
I disagree with you CK, normal relations with current Russian goverment are, for Poland at least not possible, Russia requires a level of concession on Polish part thats impossible to accept so we didnt aggravate our relations since they're broken from the beginning.
I'm not sure the shield was worth it, personally i'm all for rationalizing Polish-USA relations but saying Russia is capable of normal relations and that the shield somehow influenced them is plain rubbish.
Sokrates
29 Mar 2009
History / Historical culture in certain areas of Poland (about man and women) [4]
Meh, yet another cheap provocation.
Meh, yet another cheap provocation.
Sokrates
28 Mar 2009
News / Poland growth rate [34]
I'm talking about women across the board, not some backwater uneducated geese but educated women from big cities.
The interesting bit is that it has nothing to do with churchly encouragement, women here draw genuine satisfaction from family, like i said we're two different worlds.
All Europeans are different, why do you think countries go through history differently? Because the people that live in them are different perhaps?
I dare say not a single European country was in the same situation, we're stuck with first world culture and third world economy due to our quirky history, not to mention we're Slavs, heavily westernized but Slavs and there are differences to ethnicities.
It's a society phenomenon Socrates...Poland is still backward and religious dominated.
I'm talking about women across the board, not some backwater uneducated geese but educated women from big cities.
Give women the same possibilities (which they will undoubtly get the more Poland develops), take away the "churchly" stigmata of family planning and the more women will decide for themselves.
The more options families get the more will take them, believe me.
The more options families get the more will take them, believe me.
The interesting bit is that it has nothing to do with churchly encouragement, women here draw genuine satisfaction from family, like i said we're two different worlds.
Poland and the Poles are no different to other Europeans! :)
All Europeans are different, why do you think countries go through history differently? Because the people that live in them are different perhaps?
Just look into the social histories of other european countries...they were in the same
situation as you are and they changed with time and development.
situation as you are and they changed with time and development.
I dare say not a single European country was in the same situation, we're stuck with first world culture and third world economy due to our quirky history, not to mention we're Slavs, heavily westernized but Slavs and there are differences to ethnicities.
Sokrates
28 Mar 2009
News / Poland growth rate [34]
The difference between third world and Poland is that Poland is a developing country with first world aka old Europe culture and expectations which means apart from deep province people will not fuck like rabbits.
You're using a western template towards a central Europe country, we've got much in common but in truth we're a different world, western development patterns dont really hold much truth here.
In Poland there is a strong "polish-mother" sentiment, women actually enjoy having and caring for family, economy is the thing that impairs certain millenia old drives, in Germany its indeed evolution but in Poland the same thing is more of holding back.
You cant expect a country that follows completely different social rules to develop the same way as the rest of Old Europe.
"Economic shortages" aren't a reason for fewer kids Socrates or the third world would had died out already...
The difference between third world and Poland is that Poland is a developing country with first world aka old Europe culture and expectations which means apart from deep province people will not fuck like rabbits.
the more sophisticated and developed a country becomes the more family planning takes over and the more people decides for one, two or no kids at all instead of blind breeding.
You're using a western template towards a central Europe country, we've got much in common but in truth we're a different world, western development patterns dont really hold much truth here.
The more Poland catches up to the standards of the west the more you will see the same developments too..
And I see nothing bad with it when the societies adapt to it.
And I see nothing bad with it when the societies adapt to it.
In Poland there is a strong "polish-mother" sentiment, women actually enjoy having and caring for family, economy is the thing that impairs certain millenia old drives, in Germany its indeed evolution but in Poland the same thing is more of holding back.
You cant expect a country that follows completely different social rules to develop the same way as the rest of Old Europe.
Sokrates
28 Mar 2009
News / Poland growth rate [34]
Statistics show between 12 and 18 milion decrease for Germany by 2060.
Yes and no, reasons for Polish decrease are due to economic shortages whereas reasons for German decrease are due to overall wealth, couples in Germany no longer wish to burden themselves with kids, you guys have no family structure anymore.
Cut that crap Sokrates!
Statistics show between 12 and 18 milion decrease for Germany by 2060.
PS: Before a 80+ Mill people dies out we will see the end of a 38 Mill people, believe me!
Yes and no, reasons for Polish decrease are due to economic shortages whereas reasons for German decrease are due to overall wealth, couples in Germany no longer wish to burden themselves with kids, you guys have no family structure anymore.
Sokrates
28 Mar 2009
News / Poland growth rate [34]
BB Germany is not shrinking its dying out.
I still say breeding isn't the answer to the problems....The populations HAVE to shrink,
as the Earth can't nourish all the people which are already there!
as the Earth can't nourish all the people which are already there!
BB Germany is not shrinking its dying out.
Sokrates
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
France and Germany have banks, banks that are either owned or to a great degree dependent on Rotschilds, if Rotschilds together with Rockefellers decide to block any single bank including national banks of both countries they have funds to do that.
You think about it incorrectly, countries operate on money which is largely international, it is enough that people holding the routes the finance flows put pressure on the leading figures of each state and they will have their way.
Which shows how good the guy was rather than that he did not do his stuff.
...without France and Germany reconciliating and agreeing to share the iron and steel
France and Germany have banks, banks that are either owned or to a great degree dependent on Rotschilds, if Rotschilds together with Rockefellers decide to block any single bank including national banks of both countries they have funds to do that.
(with one being free to use it to rebuild Europe and the other one allowed to keep a close look on it so that the other one doesn't wreaks havoc with it again) there would never have developed a european community.
THAT was the most important event, a u-turn to the century old hat/revenge/war-thinking in Europe, not some manipulations by some lone shadowy figure and his secret phone calls...
THAT was the most important event, a u-turn to the century old hat/revenge/war-thinking in Europe, not some manipulations by some lone shadowy figure and his secret phone calls...
You think about it incorrectly, countries operate on money which is largely international, it is enough that people holding the routes the finance flows put pressure on the leading figures of each state and they will have their way.
Nobody I know has ever heard of this Retinger....
Which shows how good the guy was rather than that he did not do his stuff.
Sokrates
27 Mar 2009
Love / I'm in love with a nice Polish; she's from another country and religion.. [39]
Dude, be happy, as in very happy, if a girl insists on you meeting her family that means she's dead serious about the business, also being Asian might seem odd to them but unless you bump into some racist disphits they'll accept you no problem.
i met a nice polish girl ,she was here in my country .. and we r so in love .. im going to visit her next month in poland .. she keeps telling me that its will be nice to meet her family,but i dont know im worried about this .. just because im from another country and another religion .. i just want to know if some one knows how her family will deal with that ? or it depends on how is this family and its different from family to another ?
Dude, be happy, as in very happy, if a girl insists on you meeting her family that means she's dead serious about the business, also being Asian might seem odd to them but unless you bump into some racist disphits they'll accept you no problem.
Sokrates
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
Because neither Romania nor Albania were as crucial as Poland was and before you say it was not, take a look at what happened to communism, Poland sneezed and the entire Warsaw Pact cought the flu, and died.
Poland was a country which had the most liberal policy since Soviets did not dare to try the hardliner policies here but it was also under the most carefull scrutiny, Poland would be put down harder than anyone because it was the key to Warsaw Pacts failure or success so defiance was not taken lightly in Moscow.
I'd really need to research this since i've read about it quite some time ago, the point is the guy brought together people like the head of Unilever, Belgian prime minister, the head of CIA, Rotshilds, Rockefellers. He brought together enough international capital, information and influence to rival any country or a power block.
Now, back to the non-personal discussion: please explain why neither Romania nor Albania suffered the dire consequences which you claim awaited Poland had Poland not taken part in the invasion of Czechoslovakia.
Because neither Romania nor Albania were as crucial as Poland was and before you say it was not, take a look at what happened to communism, Poland sneezed and the entire Warsaw Pact cought the flu, and died.
Poland was a country which had the most liberal policy since Soviets did not dare to try the hardliner policies here but it was also under the most carefull scrutiny, Poland would be put down harder than anyone because it was the key to Warsaw Pacts failure or success so defiance was not taken lightly in Moscow.
Who did he bring together then? I don't pretend to be an expert as sjam suggests. My reading between the end of WWII up to the ECSC isn't so varied.
I'd really need to research this since i've read about it quite some time ago, the point is the guy brought together people like the head of Unilever, Belgian prime minister, the head of CIA, Rotshilds, Rockefellers. He brought together enough international capital, information and influence to rival any country or a power block.
Sokrates
27 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
Harry your posts consist mostly of lies and manipulations, you will deliberately ignore sentences that are inconvenient to you and manipulate others to distort the message, you're a liar and a hater, i do not understand nor care why do you hate Poland and Poles but frankly you're so heavily immersed in hatred i cant treat you or anything you say seriously anymore.
He also brought together some of the most influential people on earth, you have to realise that political convergence in Europe just as with most wars or political actions are based on whims of select few rather than a dynamic process.
Its not necceserily the Bilderberg group, who is it is not as relevant as fact that great capital in times when its internationalized has absolute power.
You make a wildly inaccurate statement. I post back with the facts. You then post back claiming that black is white; I post pointing out that black is black and white is white. You then reply with nonsense.
Harry your posts consist mostly of lies and manipulations, you will deliberately ignore sentences that are inconvenient to you and manipulate others to distort the message, you're a liar and a hater, i do not understand nor care why do you hate Poland and Poles but frankly you're so heavily immersed in hatred i cant treat you or anything you say seriously anymore.
sjam, I'm willing to discuss specifics. He was a champion of an idea that, as of yet, hasn't really come to fruition.
He also brought together some of the most influential people on earth, you have to realise that political convergence in Europe just as with most wars or political actions are based on whims of select few rather than a dynamic process.
Its not necceserily the Bilderberg group, who is it is not as relevant as fact that great capital in times when its internationalized has absolute power.
Sokrates
26 Mar 2009
Love / Polish women are more inhibited in bed? [51]
Its a very fancy word for a gift.
what is a chuj ??
Its a very fancy word for a gift.
Sokrates
26 Mar 2009
News / Some Poles burning American flag [299]
And then we murdered jewish babies, over a campfire :-=) You're on the roll mate, as always.
The Polish nation sent 28,000 of its best soldiers to invade a sovereign state and, with the exception of one brave man, not a single Pole protested.
And then we murdered jewish babies, over a campfire :-=) You're on the roll mate, as always.