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Donald Tusk - the worst PM of 3rd RP.


Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
24 Sep 2008 /  #1
It's been almost a year... What this man has done ?? Anything !!??
loco polaco 3 | 353  
24 Sep 2008 /  #2
WHAT? YOU WANT THE DUCK BROS BACK? HAHAHAHA
szarlotka 8 | 2,209  
24 Sep 2008 /  #3
If that isn't radical enough you can have Gordon Brown... or George W. They're both in the jobs market
Marek 4 | 867  
24 Sep 2008 /  #4
Tusk has negotiated with Jewish groups to provide restitution to Holocaust survivors and their families.

If that's anything-:)
miranda  
24 Sep 2008 /  #5
democratically elected governments and leaders are not universally approved by the population.

good point but one year is usually not enough to implement any changes and by not doing anything, he probably spent a lot of time arguing with the President, so that must have set him back a bit:)
dcchris 8 | 432  
24 Sep 2008 /  #6
without a majority its difficult for him to get much done. they are talking about some major restructuring in the near future however. they are talking about early elections and if his party gets a clear majority than he can get more done
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
24 Sep 2008 /  #7
What did u expect him to do Greg? What was in his party manifesto?
southern 75 | 7,096  
24 Sep 2008 /  #8
What this man has done ?? Anything !!??

I think he has managed to make everyone angry in his effort to make everyone happy.The Russians,the Americans,the Germans...
jbman - | 26  
24 Sep 2008 /  #9
It's been almost a year... What this man has done ?? Anything !!??

well in the past he did have good credentials n that is why he got to the top.
guess once u achieve your goal u tend to relax n forget the promises n start enjoying the moment, maybe in the next few years he will start doin what he was appointed for.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Sep 2008 /  #10
indeed he has achieved his personal goal. what abt delivering what he was appointed for ?

Useful politician would consider his PM post to be a just tool which help him to achieve successful state. Such person would put equality mark between successful state and personal goal.
ukpolska  
26 Sep 2008 /  #11
God forbid if the Kaczynski idiot's were still in power... at least our international relations are in a dam site better position than they were under those morons.

They play the electorate to suit their own means and achieve their own goals.
Look at their stupid proposal of a referendum on Poland adopting the Euro.
This decision cannot be made by the public who have no understanding of economics and its only intention is to raise the profile of Lech Kaczynski by holding the referendum at the same time as the Presidential election.
lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Sep 2008 /  #12
They play the electorate to suit their own means and achieve their own goals.

Like 99& of political establishment.

This decision cannot be made by the public who have no understanding of economics and its only intention is to raise the profile of Lech Kaczynski by holding the referendum at the same time as the Presidential election.

First of all, to propose Euro is stupid as I mentioned earlier in other threads. While the public hardly understand anything serious, your logic leads us even more away from democracy from where we stand.
ukpolska  
26 Sep 2008 /  #13
your logic leads us even more away from democracy from where we stand.

At least it is logic, yours is just idealistic fantasy as is many of your anti-European claptrap.
You are a dinosaur lessor...... now why don’t you run along and be a good boy and fossilise.

However, I do agree with you that Poland would be foolish to adopt the Euro soon, but I am afraid they will have no choice but to adopt it.
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
26 Sep 2008 /  #14
UKPL, so tell me which positive and meaningful changes Tusk's government made ? Facts, not personal feeling like "at least he is normal". At least 3.

1. ...
2. ...
3. ...
lesser 4 | 1,311  
26 Sep 2008 /  #15
At least it is logic.

If you would write that you are against democracy, then I would not comment. I respect honesty. What I dislike is when somebody claim to be democrat and later claim that public opinion is too ignorant to vote on some issues. This is hypocrisy because this is obvious that public opinion is incompetent in general.

yours is just idealistic fantasy as is many of your anti-European claptrap.

Either you don't really read my posts or confuse the EU with Europe. Actually the EU is cancer of Europe and fully deserve to be criticized. Somehow I don't remember you questioning my criticism of the EU on any certain issues.

Also, I'm not democratic apologist for sure, even opposite. I just wonder how so many "democrats" are unable to notice how Switzerland works. Just amazing.

You are a dinosaur lessor...... now why don’t you run along and be a good boy and fossilise.

This is ad-personam, I shouldn't even comment. However even here you are wrong, nothing what I say was practiced in full scale in the past. This is future, although probably fossilise European politicians will be the last to acknowledge that socialism don't work.
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
30 Sep 2008 /  #16
Still waiting...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
30 Sep 2008 /  #17
And I'm still waiting too Greg, u didn't answer my questions above
ukpolska  
1 Oct 2008 /  #18
Still waiting...

There is not much he can do as Poland's growth is almost on autopilot with little maintenance issues from the government.
I suppose the biggest most important issue that Pis fukced up is rebuilding the status and international relations of Poland.

You are a strange one Grzegorz... as you post a question, run away to your alcoholic haze for a couple of days, then come back post another question don't answer any other questions... and then it all ends up with your profound statement, "yawn"
spieretti 1 | 31  
1 Oct 2008 /  #19
I would have thought "normal" is a major achievement for anyone involved in politics...
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
1 Oct 2008 /  #20
What did u expect him to do Greg? What was in his party manifesto?

Hmm... lower taxes, reform of public finances - less on administration, benefits and other subsidies, more on infrastruture, science etc. less burocracy, simple law, privatization most of still state owned companies and general liberalisation of the economy, educational bonds, strong fight against corruption and many other things.

Tusk's "government" did nothing. So far they haven't even touched any important issue and what's worse they don't even plan to do anything.

There is not much he can do as Poland's growth is almost on autopilot with little maintenance issues from the government.

You must be joking. Poland's growth has been happening only because after communism we were starting from the very low level - state ownership was replaced in most cases by the private one, much more effective of course, technology from WW2 era was replaced by much better western solutions - add to that much lower wages, which attracted many western investors and that all together was giving some growth but that won't last forever especially that global crisis is coming. Have you ever been running business here ? We've got one of the highest taxes in the world and one of the biggest and worst administration, we have hundreds bilions of debt and add to that tens more every year. Without very serious reform we will never reach anything even close to the western level of developement. And in every democratic country politicians are deciding about fiscal policy and law - the most important things for the economy.

run away to your alcoholic haze for a couple of days

Yawn...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
1 Oct 2008 /  #21
Ur friend £ukasz may disagree with u on some of these points Greg. He had a phase of unearthing successes which could be partially attributed to Tusk. I agree with the lower taxes part of things.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
3 Oct 2008 /  #22
19% Flat tax for companies isn't common in other european countries. That is why so many european politicians want to make one european tax. Bureaucracy for sure we have better situation than Germany or France not to mention Italy.

inheritance tax doesn't exist for family memebers...

property taxes are very low
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
3 Oct 2008 /  #23
Corporation income tax is the 3rd rate thing. Generally fiscalization rate in Poland is one of the highest in the world.

Facts, not personal feeling like "at least he is normal". At least 3.

1. ...
2. ...
3. ...

Still waiting...
Del boy 20 | 254  
4 Oct 2008 /  #24
your game maniac personality give no credibility to elaborate on Polish politics. how old are you, any relations with females by chance Greg?
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 Oct 2008 /  #25
And your arguments for clowns called Tusk's government are... ?
Del boy 20 | 254  
4 Oct 2008 /  #26
clown indeed
Romek - | 8  
4 Oct 2008 /  #28
He is his minister
sikorski
He is his minister zdrojewski

His government is better than last one.
OP Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
4 Oct 2008 /  #29
His government is better than last one.

So what they have done... ?
osiol 55 | 3,922  
4 Oct 2008 /  #30
I'm not here to comment on Polish politics (about which I know little), but I might add that it is worth asking "What have they done?" but it is also worth asking "What have they not done?" - questions to ask of any administration.

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