History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]


You are right I may have come down on Britian to hard. I get upset when I hear negative on Poland's role downplayed. Ok with that said, I'm sorry Brits didn't mean to take it out on you. Next, I can accept the USA screw up by listening to Stalin. Go to the Roosevelt Presidential library and read the actual memo's. USA can't have the sell out placed on them. Now Stalin, look at Churchill and Rossevelts telegrams when they wanted to go help Poland. It was Stalins threats that got them to back down. How can we blame USA when Russians and Germans were killing Poles. USA and Britian did not attack Poland. The sellout was to appease Stalin and yes maybe if communication was clearer between Roosevelt and Churchill things wouldn't have ended the way they did. It was Churchill that said he was not going to continue talks with Stalin and shut the door. They were both wrong. Carol

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]


This beacon you speak of did Poland no good when they said to Germany stop or we'll declair war and then did nothing. So big deal they declaired war and watched as Poland waited for British to back them. Even when Polish knew they had been betrayed, they stayed and helped fight. You say "who know what world we would be living in right now", look what ended up happening to Poland, I guess we can tell you.

Carol

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]

Harry, This is part 5 of 5.

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]


Sadly, USA was helping "Stalin" and on the western side. When they wanted (along with Britian) to help Poland, it was "Stalin" that said no.

Thank God Polish are such strong people. With what they went through by all rights they should have perished. Polish people are, "strong like bulls". This was why men like Stalin had them "unarmed" and still had to tie their hands (Katyn) before shooting them in the head. Or attack them when "unarmed" on farms (kresy) with their families sleeping. Maybe we should be wondering what the outcome for Poland would have been had just the last two things not taken place?

Carol

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]

Harry, Must you go into time out for name calling? Speaking of not telling the truth.

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]


You mean the "Soviet army" that took over our contry when we were betrayed, right?


They were busy trying to find a home after being betrayed and losing their country. No they were not invited as they were no longer needed to die for others. Carol

opps country not contry

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]

I guess it's one thing to say, If you keep attacking Poland we (British) will declair war on you. At this point it would have been nice if the British after declairing war, came and helped. But instead the guns were silenced and the Polish fought alone. Carol

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]

I hear very little on what that piece of work "Stalin" was pulling on the side lines.


That's like trying to open a jar and when you can't you give it to someone else who opens it. You must have loosened it, right. LOL Carol

History / Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish [532]


People run Poland.

It is this mindset that hurts relationships. I am Roman Catholic and am not better or running Jewish, just as Jewish do not run Poland. My family also went through a holocaust but due to not being included with Jewish they are now (due to being free) being able to have their place in the history books. In eastern Poland, Kresy, it was the Jewish that told the Russian where the Polish Army reserve family's lived. The Jewish in 1943 were right there with the SS Ukraine burning houses and killing neighbors. No Jewish do not run any nation and when in Isral they said this was their birth right land. In Poland Jewish set up their own army and segregate themselves as special, the chosen. No, I shall be equal to Jewish and the sooner they understand this mindset the better for all.

Note: Hitlers plan was for all Polish people, not just the Jewish he started with.

Carol, USA

History / My Opinion about the Former President Walesa, Lech [28]

I think he did a great job. I am in the United States and personally I am so tired of watching President Putin push Poland around. Being in the spot light is part of politics and I can remember when critics said he was drunk at "Katyn memorial" , I don't really care as I may have had a shot or two myself in his position. I pray Poland's new President does not kis- Russia's b-tt. If Putin remains running what I consider communist country someone must tell him, "Poland is a free country", stop telling, threatening, insulting a country that stands tall, Poland.

Education of the past will fully surface for this nation to see and at long last what took place in Poland and shall have it's rightful place in history. This is what Walesa was doing. God Bless him.

Carol, USA

History / Ancient Polish History thread [180]

Thank you all for the fantastic information and pictures. I wanted to ask as you watch this if you see any information that you don't aggree with if you can tell me? Early Poland I have not studied as much and this is why I ask? Thank you and enjoy.

Carol /USA




Yes, it is the same as above by, Piorun if you watch it already. Thanks, Carol

Love / Polish women are the best!!!!!! [77]

nice to meet you and Thank you, I tell my husband the same thing all the time. God is he a lucky guy. LOL Carol

History / WW2: Britain Declares War on Germany to Save Poland [290]

First to Fight
Polish Soldiers September Campaign 1939

USA, Canada / USA, the nation of immigrants [30]

I was first born on USA soil. What a differance born into freedom vs, fighting for your rights. After what my family went throught being Roman Catholics from Kresy 1939-45, I can't even think how the ones that stayed could be silenced. Your babies, families, whole generations got killed, yet don't you dare speak about it. How is that for healing. Since 1989 they tell them ok you can feel again. I respect the Polish strength, I on the other hand being born here, would not have made it to long in communist Poland.

Carol

History / The Impossible Escape - Proposed Feature Film about Polish GULAG survivor [8]


By whom? Carol

The remarkable tale of cavalry officer Rawicz and six fellow prisoners, who escaped from a Siberian gulag and trekked across the taiga to freedom. It's an astonishing tale of strength and determination. These men, already in poor condition in Yakutsk, manage to sustain themselves on foot over 4,000 miles of barren land and mountains.

longitudebooks.com/find/p/11649/mcms.html

When we look at this and remember what happened when amnesty was granted, the people were half dead and now they were out. Many who could not afford a train are still there today. Others who paid for a ticket out were abandoned along the way.

Going from Kresy took 3-4 weeks with very few stops and a train to get to Siberia. Going out our families had many casualties. Some found farms along the way to work for food.

Even if you were lucky enough to make it to Teheran look at the cemetery's there because they were so depleted and disease was epidemic because of the conditions. Look at the children that were orphaned after amnesty, this continued well into the fifty's and possibly 60's. I read story after story of families having to leave deceased members in unmarked graves on the road out of Siberia. Many of them were woman and small children alone as the husbands and older children went to regroup the Home Army on Russian soil.

On the link below are some that lived to tell. An epic story of human endurance is being challenged. Did wartime prisoners really walk from Siberia to India? What choice were they given? Carol


news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6098218.stm

UK, Ireland / Are there many poles in Bolton/Manchester area? [6]

Sorry I would have had you over for coffee. Carol

UK, Ireland / Are there many poles in Bolton/Manchester area? [6]

I love Connecticut but it's very expensive. In the fall the trees are beautiful, reds, orange, yellow. Although I live on a farm in Bolton I was brought up in Manchester. I can drive to the beach in 1/2 hour. People here are always running, work, school, out to clubs. Coffee is a must have, like tea is to England. One thing I will say is great here, a woman is able to make a great living in the work field. They own company's are doctors or really whatever they want to be. Schooling is very good but still not good enough for me. My children are into motocross and in Connecticut if you don't have land it's hard to find a place to ride. Lucky me they all come here. We have malls for shopping, very high tax's on cigarettes, gas is high and I have a full size blazer with a 350 engine so that does not help. Other than that I guess we are the same. Carol

UK, Ireland / Are there many poles in Bolton/Manchester area? [6]


What country. I am in Bolton, Connecticut USA that is next to Manchester.
Carol

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Lets hope Russia does not see this as Poland being weak. Carol

History / Anyone know 88 Helena Wolinska masterminding execution of Gen Fieldorf? [15]

I can see now why she should be held responsable. It just shows how much history I have to learn. How sad this is for her country. Carol


Wroclaw,

Thank you so much for this artical. I just finished it and pray she is held accountable. I understand 10 years is an insult when we read of her crimes. Then I must remember if she serves the full sentence it will be "life", at her age. Maybe then it shall not be quite so funny to her. Thank you, Carol

History / History of Poland which was "absorbed" by Russia [9]

Are you referring to 1939-1945 when Germany attacted from the west and them Russia from the west. This is also a part of history that I am trying to name on another link. Eastern Poland was in what is now Ukraine. This is where "Katyn" took place. Then the Russians went into the homes of Polish osadnik (front line ww1 in reserve) farmers unarmed, in the night, took them and the rest of the family to box cars destined for Siberia concentration camps. Stalin was going to use them as slaves until they died. This group needs a name and if you can think of any please find my post and add it.

Thanks, Carol

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

If and when the past is dealt with I feel Poland-Russia can have a happy ending.
Carol

News / Man from Zakopane who cut off his own genitals [53]


Buddy know of Mrs. Bobbit that cut it off in the USA and then wouldn't tell the cops where her cheaten hubby's part was tossed. LOL Dog ran off with it. No really they found it and put it back. I think it would be more fun to super glue his hand to it and laugh like heck as he goes to the hospital to get it unstuck. Whats that they say"cheaters never prosper". Carol

News / Man from Zakopane who cut off his own genitals [53]

sledz,

Could be worse, we could be going in for surgury in the am. In Connecticut, USA we have to sign and then the dr. signs the place of surgury. Maybe Poland should do that?

LOL/ Carol

News / Man from Zakopane who cut off his own genitals [53]

How did this happen by accident? Must have been in for tonsils? "Ouch" Carol

History / Anyone know 88 Helena Wolinska masterminding execution of Gen Fieldorf? [15]

No she is in Poland to stand trial now. Carol USA

History / Katyn- forgiven and forgotten? [111]


isthatu, Yes it is I. No we do not "Ball yourself up in hate" and yes "Putin" should stand up like a man for his country and take responsibility (once and for all) and verbally let the history book show that Russians are sorry that their forefathers committed these atrocious actions. After this they could ask how they can seek a resolve that may defer this behavior from ever taking place again. Without Putin taking these actions can they be trusted or for that matter start a positive relationship. They not only killed "unarmed" men in "Katlyn", what about the killing and deportation to Siberia of the Polish. We also await the same. Guess that sucks for Putin.

News / Yitzhak Shamir - prime minister of Israel with anti-polish sentiment [41]

I say, for shame on "Yitzhak". Name calling at his age, prime minister of Israel no less. I think of how I have felt inside when my President screws up (USA) and believe me, I know. I try to keep in mind what my father tells me of living side by side with the Jewish and Ukrainian people in eastern Poland (now Ukrainian) and never having a problem. That is until pitted against each other. It was your life or theirs provoked by higher powers. It was at this point that people changed into animalistic behavior.

In the US I do not distinguish and segregate my neighbors. I was taught we all cry, hurt, laugh and love the same. Maybe part of the problem is not enough people demanding a higher standard than the animals that we are told have no cerebral cortex.

Carol Celinska Dove

History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]


Lukasz, OMG thank you for the link I had to wonder if it's something in the water in Russia. Is Putin acually thinking no one can see right through him. Then again why not he hasn't had to answer for what he did to Poland 1939-45, so why not.

"The rest we know all too well. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Treaty that paved the way for Hitler to start the World War, and the Soviet invasion of Poland on September 17, 1939, executed under the pretense of "protecting the oppressed minorities." Stalin went the same way that had been inaugurated five centuries earlier by Ivan III: again, deportations that wasted 1.5 million Polish lives (of these, 0.5 million perished in the Siberian and Kazakh labor camps); then the Katyn murders totaling 23,000 people, the elite of the Polish patriotic intelligentsia, killed on a single order; then, after a short period of cooperation with the Polish government-in-exile, cooperation which was forced on Stalin by the unexpected German invasion, preparations to install a new Russian (this time Soviet) party in Poland. A new Targowica group could be recruited only among the communists. But Stalin knew that he had to break the neck of the Polish society first to make it acquiesce to the new Russian-Soviet domination. His communist clients, whom he used to enslave Poland, knew it even better."

Please don't let it start again. After reading your link all could think of was how important it is for Russia to be held accountable for what happened to Poland in 1939-45. Accountablity and taking responsabilty are the ingrediants needed to show Putin it will not be repeated. To not do this leaves him to believe it can be repeated. Maybe the time is at hand for a world of viewers to tell Putin step back and concern himself within his own boarders. Many voices make light work. Carol Celinska Dove