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Yitzhak Shamir - prime minister of Israel with anti-polish sentiment


Babylon 16 | 192  
24 Feb 2007 /  #1
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icchak_Szamir

"[Poles] suck [anti-Semitism] with their mothers' milk. This is something that is deeply imbued in their tradition, their mentality. Like their loathing of Russia. The two things are not connected, of course. But that, too, is something very deep, like their hatred of Am Yisrael. Today, though, there are elements [in Poland] that are cleansed of this anti-Semitism." Yitzhak Shamir.

„Polacy wsysają antysemityzm wraz z mlekiem matki. Tradycja polska jest głęboko przesiąknięta antysemityzmem, jak i polska mentalność. Tak jak ich wstręt do Rosji. Te dwie rzeczy nie są ze sobą oczywiście połączone, ale to również tkwi w ich naturze, tak jak nienawiść do Judaizmu [Am Yisrael]. Dzisiaj aczkolwiek istnieją pewne oznaki oczyszczania Polski z antysemityzmu.” Yitzhak Shamir.

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eddien  
1 Mar 2007 /  #2
Yes...he speaks the truth!
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1 Mar 2007 /  #3
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There is nothing to comment. This Icchak is pathologically antipolish.
schultz  
2 Mar 2007 /  #4
Screw him and screw what he says. Jews hold anti-semetic propaganda higher then the star of david. He should be reminded he is prime minister of stolen land.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
2 Mar 2007 /  #5
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Crow 150 | 9,549  
6 Mar 2007 /  #6
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:) I would try to say something from Serbian angle. :)

I don’t know what to say on this anti Slavic sentiment from official Israel (we can’t generalize things, of course hire we speak about official state politics).

First, Israel chooses to support Albanian separatism in Serbian province of Kosovo and to openly communicate with Albanian terrorists who are BDW already connected with Al-Qaeda and now Israely officials spit on Poland.

It is absolutely mind blowing to me to notice that official Israel, Germany, Hungary, extreme Arabic Islamists, Turks, NATO, USA, Britain and EU collaborate in order to weak Serbian (Slavic) element on Balkan (with open military actions and using demonic anti-Serbian propaganda machinery!), on behalf of expansion of Muslim and pro-German countries on Serbian ground.

If I tell you that Vladimir Putin also negotiates with Albanian terrorists (receive them as guests) you would notice that something went wrong in Russia. That something is treachery of Slavic interests in one strategic region.

Majority of Serbs believe that official Russia sold Slavic South- particularly Serbs to scum of this world.

In the same time, there is serious indications inside of Russia, that pan-Slavic feelings rising and that even could explode in the face of Putin and Slavic foes. Slava dobrom Bogu if comes to that.

Babylon, where are you man.

You had some very good quotations.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
22 Nov 2007 /  #7
"[Poles] suck [anti-Semitism] with their mothers' milk. This is something that is deeply imbued in their tradition, their mentality. Like their loathing of Russia. The two things are not connected, of course. But that, too, is something very deep, like their hatred of Am Yisrael. Today, though, there are elements [in Poland] that are cleansed of this anti-Semitism." Yitzhak Shamir.

Yes, we suck this 'anti-semitism' when we are at our mother's breast...in fact, I can still
remember, although it is now a distant memory, the voice of my mother softly whispering in my ear, 'You must always hate Jews!'...it is like a song sung softly, but long ago!...and of course, Polish history bears out this hatred of the Yiddin...why for over

3-400 years they lived in the Polish territories, and, of course, were constantly abused,
exploited & pogrommed by the arrogant, anti-semite Polish peasantry, who lorded it over
them with a rod of iron...given this history of Polish enslavement of the Yiddin, it is a
puzzling question why they stayed so long!!!
eric_the_nave - | 30  
23 Nov 2007 /  #8
I am not going to dispute that these sentiments were horrible and that no leader in their right minds would now or then have dared say the same against say France or Germany (let's face it Poland was not then and is not now a particularly powerful country). However these remarks were made in 1989. Yitzhak Shamir is currently incapable of distinguishing his backside from his toe. There is certainly no need to be outraged by these remarks today.
celinski 31 | 1,258  
24 Nov 2007 /  #9
I say, for shame on "Yitzhak". Name calling at his age, prime minister of Israel no less. I think of how I have felt inside when my President screws up (USA) and believe me, I know. I try to keep in mind what my father tells me of living side by side with the Jewish and Ukrainian people in eastern Poland (now Ukrainian) and never having a problem. That is until pitted against each other. It was your life or theirs provoked by higher powers. It was at this point that people changed into animalistic behavior.

In the US I do not distinguish and segregate my neighbors. I was taught we all cry, hurt, laugh and love the same. Maybe part of the problem is not enough people demanding a higher standard than the animals that we are told have no cerebral cortex.

Carol Celinska Dove
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
26 Nov 2007 /  #10
I try to keep in mind what my father tells me of living side by side with the Jewish and Ukrainian people in eastern Poland (now Ukrainian) and never having a problem. That is until pitted against each other. It was your life or theirs provoked by higher powers. It was at this point that people changed into animalistic behavior.

The problem of Communism/Nazism/Zionism is ultimately one of Satanism.
mh1900 - | 1  
20 Feb 2008 /  #11
This supports the provocative statement of Shamir, who inarticulately expressed the idea that anti-Semitism has been part of the Catholic Polish tradition. I would like to believe that most Poles nowadays do not share joepilsudski's ideas.
robin82 - | 2  
21 Feb 2008 /  #12
He should be reminded he is prime minister of stolen land.

well said..those jews have done worse than what the nazis have done..
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
21 Feb 2008 /  #13
Given how shady the Jews were here, they should count themselves as lucky that the Poles have the decency not to rip into them more. This country allowed Jews to flourish and prosper back in the day. Krakow is proud of its Jewish quarter. He can go and take his rightful place under the nearest rock, twat
janekb - | 57  
29 Feb 2008 /  #14
Prime Ministers are not slipping (unless their name is Bush) and what they say has to be taken seriously and there was the reason why Shamir choose to express himself the way he did. Not knowing circumstances it’s hard to figure it out why he did that. I do not believe that he was just insulting Poles. Now try to analyze what are possible consequences of his statement. Judging by reactions at this forum it for sure did not gain him and his people any friends. Possibly he is trying to make Polish government to some action proving that anti-Semitism in Poland is a distant past. There is on-going discussion about reparations for the pre-war Jewish own property in Poland, it is possible that he is trying to influence outcome in this. The hope is that polish politicians would not be cowed and for once will give a sharp rebuke or ignore it. Playing that victim card is getting old, it should be sufficient to point to the Israel’s treatment of their neighbors. It’s enough to look through the post was polish history to see plenty of reasons for the population to be anti-Semitic (communist governments and specially its secret services). Jews never assimilated in Poland (their claim was that Poland had very little to offer). If the minority exists for five centuries using different language, customs, courts, and living totally separate lives it should not expect to be helped when it needs help. There are neighbors who do not like each other and due to the tragic circumstances we do not have to be neighbors.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
8 Mar 2008 /  #15
joepilsudski wrote:
The problem of Communism/Nazism/Zionism is ultimately one of Satanism.

This supports the provocative statement of Shamir, who inarticulately expressed the idea that anti-Semitism has been part of the Catholic Polish tradition. I would like to believe that most Poles nowadays do not share joepilsudski's ideas.

How does what I wrote reinforce any statement by Shamir?...Is my statement incorrect?...if it is, please elaborate!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
8 Mar 2008 /  #16
Here it is!! He is entitled to his view but it is disingenuous. Many Jews feel/felt that the Poles should've done more to protect them against the Nazis. Yeah right, easier said than done!!! The Nazis were a feared bunch
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
8 Mar 2008 /  #17
Many Jews feel/felt that the Poles should've done more to protect them against the Nazis. Yeah right, easier said than done!!! The Nazis were a feared bunch

Not only the Nazis, but the Communists, too...when you are invaded by a huge force of the Godless, and they are VERY well armed, you can only do so much.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
8 Mar 2008 /  #18
Absolutely joepilsudski, both the Nazis and Communists were there to inflict damage and carry out heinous plans. The weaponry used was very impressive for that era. Where does this guy's Polonophobia come from? More than likely ill-founded.
Yannai - | 1  
14 Apr 2008 /  #19
Jews hold anti-semetic propaganda higher then the star of david. He should be reminded he is prime minister of stolen land.

The problem of Communism/Nazism/Zionism is ultimately one of Satanism.

The hope is that polish politicians would not be cowed and for once will give a sharp rebuke or ignore it. Playing that victim card is getting old, it should be sufficient to point to the Israel’s treatment of their neighbors. It’s enough to look through the post was polish history to see plenty of reasons for the population to be anti-Semitic (communist governments and specially its secret services). Jews never assimilated in Poland (their claim was that Poland had very little to offer). If the minority exists for five centuries using different language, customs, courts, and living totally separate lives it should not expect to be helped when it needs help.

Given how shady the Jews were here, they should count themselves as lucky that the Poles have the decency not to rip into them more. This country allowed Jews to flourish and prosper back in the day.

well said..those jews have done worse than what the nazis have done..

Nope, can't see any reason Shamir (born and raised in Poland, incidentally) could even concieve of such a thing as Polish antisemitism... You are such a bunch of hypocrites, it's pathetic and laughable.

Yes, we suck this 'anti-semitism' when we are at our mother's breast...in fact, I can still
remember, although it is now a distant memory, the voice of my mother softly whispering in my ear, 'You must always hate Jews!'...it is like a song sung softly, but long ago!...and of course, Polish history bears out this hatred of the Yiddin...why for over
3-400 years they lived in the Polish territories, and, of course, were constantly abused,
exploited & pogrommed by the arrogant, anti-semite Polish peasantry, who lorded it over
them with a rod of iron...given this history of Polish enslavement of the Yiddin, it is a
puzzling question why they stayed so long!!!

Quite right. We should have dumped your festering marshland long ago, and taken our economic assistance with us to our real homeland, and leave Poland lurching without Jewish money for you to steal (and don't forget, money is all that counts for us shady Jews). And now that we're gone all your pathetic hateful obssession is turned to is when an Israeli PM correctly points out how deeply racism is entrenched in your culture, so much so that your politicians have to prove they have no Jewish ancestors.

PS Crow. Israel didn't recognize Kosovar independence. I don't know what your beef is, but Serbs are just fine in my book.

Now excuse me, I have to get back to my elders of Zion meeting. Passover is coming up, you know, so we need to secure some plump Polish children to make matzas with their blood... Yum, yum, Christian kids' blood... mmmm...
isthatu2 4 | 2,703  
15 Apr 2008 /  #20
You schmuck,you've quoted a serb and a Yank.......
BTW,hows the ethnic cleansing going yannai,planning on arming any more fascist militias ...***cough** Sabra***cough***
Ozi Dan 26 | 569  
15 Apr 2008 /  #21
We should have dumped your festering marshland long ago,

But you (I take it not you personally) didn't, did you, so your view is a bit cynical really. Nothing like being wise after the fact is there? You're doing nothing but inflaming the situation really.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
15 Apr 2008 /  #22
Now excuse me, I have to get back to my elders of Zion meeting. Passover is coming up, you know, so we need to secure some plump Polish children to make matzas with their blood... Yum, yum, Christian kids' blood... mmmm...

Making a Jew openly confeess making matzas out of poor innocent christian childs blood. Check.

Now dear Yannai, what do you think about Jews killing Christ? ;)
isthatu2 4 | 2,703  
15 Apr 2008 /  #23
We should have dumped your festering marshland long ago,

yes,you could have done but no bugger else wanted you.
Crnogorac 3 | 111  
15 Apr 2008 /  #24
Now excuse me, I have to get back to my elders of Zion meeting. Passover is coming up, you know, so we need to secure some plump Polish children to make matzas with their blood... Yum, yum, Christian kids' blood... mmmm...

Who admits his guilt 50% is forgiven they say.

Jewish Woman Admits To Sacrificing a Baby on Oprah Winfrey!

Historical facts state that many Ashkenazi Jews (Khazars) were arrested and prosecuted in Poland and Russia which had large Jewish communities, due to Polish and Russian children having a tendency of dissapearing during the Passover period. This dangerous satan worshiping sect - filthy Zionist scum use the blood of Christian children in their sick rituals.
isthatu2 4 | 2,703  
15 Apr 2008 /  #25
Dont be an idiot cromagnon!
F15guy 1 | 160  
15 Apr 2008 /  #26
Celinski: In the US I do not distinguish and segregate my neighbors. I was taught we all cry, hurt, laugh and love the same. Maybe part of the problem is not enough people demanding a higher standard than the animals....

Well said.
isthatu2 4 | 2,703  
15 Apr 2008 /  #27
I do find it odd how its a thought crime risking imprisonment to express any dislike of one "nation" yet that same nation feels they can be as abusive about anyone else as they see fit.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
15 Apr 2008 /  #28
Breeding resentment should be condemned more. Exactly isthatu2, some 'nation' feels that they can throw their 'poor me' shite around, take a hike bozos.
isthatu2 4 | 2,703  
15 Apr 2008 /  #29
Id love to post a link to a site Ive been reading but Ive a feeling it will fan flames( Think I'll pm u it S' see what you think)
Jozef Pilsudski - | 25  
16 Apr 2008 /  #30
A Jew will always be a Jew just as a Russian will always be a Russian.

There had been too much of a negative stigma over the years; the Jews will never fully integrate into modern European society again, they now have Israel, and Poles can't let these things get to them.

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