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Piorun   
21 Sep 2009
Language / POLISH ETHNIC PEJORATIVES [23]

Yes, the term Szwab was used mostly for ethnic Germans, since most of the wars and deputes with what we think of Germany today we had with Prussians the common reference was Teutons. Szkop I think came later as late as WWII or I, I think (I could be wrong on this) but that's the way it's used in modern Polish and it's more a keen to English term Krout. There are definite distinctions in all of these terms, and one more that springs to mind is "Saksy" when we talk about the work abroad. Germans are not viewed as same across the board for obvious historical reason.
Piorun   
21 Sep 2009
Language / POLISH ETHNIC PEJORATIVES [23]

We have a region whose inhabitants are called "Schwaben"

Hence the term in Polish.
Piorun   
21 Sep 2009
History / Another WWII thread. [69]

apparently too stupid

That's how I would describe your tactical skills and reasoning ability.
Harry one of your ancestors must have been an adviser to the Americans. You see the storm or in this case war coming, so let's just keep our fleet at anchor (instead of saving it and strategic repositioning it so it can really be of some use later) so it can be destroyed just like at Pearl Harbour. Great reasoning there buddy. Your stupidity (or rather your hatred of Poland) never ceases to amaze me. As far as I remember Polish Navy served with honer and distinction for the remainder of the War.
Piorun   
16 Sep 2009
News / Western rationalism vs Polish (slavic) comfort [17]

Michal, it must really **** you off that a simple guy like that put an end to your ideology, what a shame. Do I sense jealousy there because you achievements are no where near those of a simple man. I'll let you on a little secret, next time be on the winning side so you can have this worm feeling inside of accomplishment and pride too.
Piorun   
14 Sep 2009
UK, Ireland / Moving to england from Poland? I'm making a documentary [23]

but I don't like england and I like poland and it needs to be showen that poland is nice because people here are narrowminded...I will make it how it is...

You will honestly call this piece a documentary? Sounds like a propaganda piece to me. You already have preconceived notion of what you like to show. Calling it documentary will not change that fact. Since no Brit had the guts to tell you, I guess I'll have to; a phony story is just that, Phony! Narrow Minded you say, at the risk of sounding like Seanus, some are some are NOT.

What you can do though is; gather a group of friends together, take the trip to Poland, film the entire trip, what you have experienced on the way there, during your stay there and your trip back. Edit most embarrassing bits of course like; running naked through the streets, heavy drinking, puking, what have you and whala done, cheap and interesting piece of the road trip (those are always good) provided you pick some normal friends of yours not some goofballs. Much more honest, funny (if they are not stiff) and appealing to the audience. I for one would like to see this than what you have described in what I've quoted.
Piorun   
12 Sep 2009
Life / Poland Vodka Production and alcohol drinking culture [16]

Who drinks is normal who doesn't is a freak

Did you yourself had one too many? Aren't you the guy in number 3 t-shirt on the beer bike or is it a bike bar in Amsterdam.

youtube.com/watch?v=MkulQvz-efw

Cheers mate.
Piorun   
10 Sep 2009
Life / Polish culture differences from the rest of Europe. [19]

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. In Utrecht, a Dutch guy got shot by a police officer, after he threatened them with a knife, and Dutch Hooligans saw it as an opportunity to riot.

Wasn't the police officer accused a woman of Moroccan origin making it still racially motivated riot. The riots clearly had an ethnic nature and although the ethnicity of the police officer was never mentioned again. I guess it's your way of dealing with a problem, be PC correct, don't mention the ethnicity and it's no longer a racial issue. Now what led to those events? The residents have been complaining for months about harassment and intimidation by immigrant youths of Moroccan origin and the shooting that took place was just a trigger mechanism for the anger stored in the residents to manifest itself.

As for the Morrocan-Dutch riots, I would hardly call any of that event a riot.

There you go, ignore the problem it may go away, but what works the best is not to draw the attention to yourself and accuse others of being precisely what you are, it's just what MareGaea dose. Bringing those issues up was to show people like MareGaea how hypocritical they are. If your looking for something to use against the people you don't like you will always find it.

In this article, politicians admit that they weren't informed. The Police Department confirmed that no riots took place. It seems some people have been blowing something out of proportions, just like you're doing..

This is just another example how to ignore the problem you have, change the definitions around and it's no longer an issue, besides isn't it precisely what your fallow countrymen do too, blowing something out of proportion because where I live such **** like this just dose not happen, I'm better then you attitude.
Piorun   
9 Sep 2009
Life / Polish culture differences from the rest of Europe. [19]

Poles tend to drink more alcohol than other ppls

Wrong yet again according to Forbs overall Europeans rank as the world's biggest drinkers. In terms of annual per capita consumption of liters of pure alcohol.

Luxembourg, where residents pound down 15.5 liters of alcohol in a year, on average, ranks first. Close behind are France (14.2 liters), Ireland (also 14.2 liters, a lot more of it from beer), Hungary (12 liters) and the Czech Republic (11.8 liters).

complain more about the past, prefer their own kind above others

I would have to disagree with you on this one, There is one other that fits this description to a tee.

are behind the rest of Europe in terms of tolerance, equality and other things we have been fighting for over the past decades/centuries.

Let's see how Dutch fair in that tolerance, equality over the past decades. I believe that the guest workers program started in 1950's in Netherlands. When the Dutch finally realized that the migration that was perceived as temporary turned out to be permanent you started to organize new political parties by the late 90's with an anti immigration theme blaming all the ills of your society on the Muslims. Dutch politicians such as Fortuyn called Islam a backward culture seeing that they simply do not integrate into the fabric of Dutch society. Although you might think that you are evolved and tolerant, that you achieved some kind of balance and try to spread the massage of multiculturalism, the fact is that the rift and discourse between the Muslims and the rest of Dutch population grows with each year passing. Isn't harmony and tolerance a measure on how evolved, tolerant, advanced and sophisticated any given culture is? I'm sorry but I fail to see that in Dutch society, just because you tolerate homosexuality and drug use? which in itself is not necessarily a good thing either. It's not a measure of tolerance and sophistication but a passing trend rather like a hippy movement.

Didn't you just have Utrecht Riots and Moroccan-Dutch youth riots? Show me the last time there were race riots in Poland. Tensions are flying high, incompatibility between the two fractions in you society are great and far from resolved. The way I see it, in the past 50 years or so the Dutch have not evolved or mature as a nation but regressed to even lower level than it was in a pre-war period. I for one do not believe in multiculturalism, and if that makes me intolerant or not advanced enough for you so be it. My opinion stems from my observation of the so called advanced western societies and I see that this model simply dose not work because cultural differences are huge, you have no right to pass judgement on us in light of what's going on in your country. When you finally achieve that utopian dream of yours then and only then you can preach this massage of yours, after all seeing is believing. Looks like you still have a long way to go and a long road ahead of you.
Piorun   
9 Sep 2009
Language / I can't roll my r's damn it! [12]

Will people still be able to understand me...or worse, will they just laugh, or shake their heads in disappointment?!!!

No mate, they'll think you have a slight lisp. Dose it really matter?
Piorun   
8 Sep 2009
News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]

This is what my friend from the marketing HQ told me.

Well then your friend is wrong and a racist himself. Since Polish costumers never had a chance to respond to this ad, it's solely Microsoft opinion that depicting black gentleman in it's ad is offensive to Polish society in general and what potentially Polish client might or might not find offensive in this ad. Even if this view was to be true it was still the opinion of Microsoft executive that ultimately was responsible for this decision. Therefore in order to increase the sales or keep them at the current level it was Microsoft's opinion that a white person should be used in one of it's ad's. As to not finishing the job I guess there must have been some budget cuts so only the face got replaced. So Microsoft's generalization (which also can be viewed as form of racist in itself or at the very least a bias opinion) of Poles and the potential of profit was the motivating factor in making this decision.

Polish consumer did not had a chance to respond to Microsoft's new and improved ad since it was scraped as soon as it seen the light of day, making this so called racist issue still just an opinion of Microsoft. Now in order to show that such behaviour will not be tolerated by such a respectable and modern corporation as Microsoft, they should fire the person responsible, take responsibility for their employee who made this decision on behalf of Microsoft. After all not only that it reflects badly on the Microsoft's image as a whole, it is really an opinion and bias of one of their own influential employees in a leadership position that made this unfortunate decision in order to benefit Microsoft by maximizing potential profit and not to not to offend Polish costumer as you claimed. Taking the responsibility for what has occurred would generate to much negative opinion of Microsoft or perhaps even a lawsuit or two so this will never happen, instead they are passing a buck on to the Poles who never even had a chance to vote with their wallets to see if Microsoft's theory of them being offended holds water.
Piorun   
8 Sep 2009
News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]

Not only out of personal preference, but also because the coloured gentleman would lead to remarks, more or less nasty and sales would drop.

Are you telling me that corporation such as Microsoft puts profit ahead of PC movement? Well there's a surprise for you. So whose fault is this ?, even if such decision was made by a Pole. What you are really saying here is that it's not racism that paid a part in decision making but corporate greed.
Piorun   
8 Sep 2009
News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]

I'm not advertising Linux here, to each their own, besides just because the technology exist dose not mean that this ideas time has come. Will costumer be happy with such arrangement? Sure form the business point of view it's good when you run it as a service for which you can charge whatever the market can bear. Not owning the hardware needed or software may save you initially some money but you wind up paying even more over the long run by renting everything you need from your service provider. For average home user the cost is not that great for what he needs now. If anything goes wrong you always know a guy who knows a guy to fix it for you or set things up the way you want it without being told you can't do that, if you can't do it yourself.

To maximize their profit I imagine the model that would be adapted for such business would be based on existing service providers model; be it ISP, Satellite TV, Cable TV etc. even if initially they sell you on a totally different concept. They would offer their services in some sort of package deals which would mean you pay for stuff even though you don't need it or would have a real choice as to what you would like and relinquish the control over yourself to them because you would be totally dependent on them since you are no longer in possession of your own data. The place that it resides on you only rent and you have no physical excess to it period. They might offer a custom set-up for larger businesses for which they would pay extra anyway, but everyone else would have to choose from package deals on the menu currently being offered limiting your choice as to software you would like to use.

This sort of thing happens all the time now. Every time you buy a brand new computer with pre-installed software and I myself have been paying licensing fees to Microsoft and others for years now even though I'm not using it. This idea has been concocted so Microsoft can have greater control over their product and stop the so called piracy of their product. They cry about piracy yet they are pirates themselves. They've been extorting money from costumers like myself for years now legally and for me having no legal recourse or choice but to pay the extra fees because their OS or software is pre-installed. I'm not happy about it, but it's a small price to pay, besides it's a one time fee every time I buy a new laptop or PC but I'll be damn if I pay that fee to them on a monthly basis.

If anything goes wrong with the service the priorities are always set up by the number of terminals you rent from them, the large corporation will be serviced earlier then an insignificant individual. For a home user losing such a service from your provider for couple of days will be annoying but amounting to be the same as experiencing a computer crash and having to take it to be serviced. You're not benefiting here either. For small business it will be devastating, you not only lose one PC but all of them with no way for you to excess your own data and conduct your business.

The way I see it, for me personally, there's way too many cons for such a service and the benefits none existent, I'm not saying that such a system will never be implemented. If a big business gets sold on the idea eventually it will trickle down to a home user, but for now it would be just one more bill at the end of the month.
Piorun   
8 Sep 2009
News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]

Just a thought of having my personal stuff stored on remote server somewhere where I'm not in control makes me cringe. I rather spend my money on hardware then pay a license fee to Microsoft anyhow. I've been running Linux for about 10 years or so now on all my home computers anyway and I find it way more reliable than Microsoft. This idea of theirs will not be well received by people. Can you imagine small business not in control of their own data? It wreaks of one world order and big brother watching you every step. As for security, microsoft was never known for that and data is being stolen all the time from credit cards companies. Who will trust some big corporation to keep their livelihood on their servers, be dependant on them for security and pay huge licensing fees and support and not being a master of your own destiny. I myself don't see it happening just yet unless Microsoft squeezes the competition out
Piorun   
7 Sep 2009
News / Microsoft Poland whitens a black face in its advert [130]

M-G (Windows7, on the other hand, is great)

That's what they said about the Vista before it came out. More secure, more reliable, more potential to fuel your business etc. What did Bill Gates said during news broadcast for the functionality of Windows 98 when blue screen of death appeared during the presentation “that's why we're not shipping 98 yet”. Any of you remember The great Polish Sea in XP ? If they actually spend as much money on actually developing their product as they do on advertisement they might get it right. Well no one ever accused them of having a rational and talented people on staff in either department as this advertisement debacle in Poland illustrates. They had to scrap entire 30 seconds of hard work and months of planning, discussions, proposals and meetings before this has been approved. A word of advice for microsoft or anyone that works for them; DETAILS, DETAILS.
Piorun   
5 Sep 2009
Life / Wedding in Poland - my experience [39]

just had my civil wedding last friday. guys, never ever trust the florist. the old lady told us that she can do blue roses and sounded so confident.

Serves you right, you got what you asked for. Blue roses do not exist in nature. Blue roses were traditionally created by dyeing white roses, your ignorance is not your florists fault, she simply gave you what you asked for.
Piorun   
4 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Pole being anti-semitic.

Exactly my point, way to go, you illustrate my point so eloquently. How could so many Poles save the Jews and fight Nazism so fervently when in order for your agenda to work so you can gain money you have to show us as collaborators and as anti-semits to the rest of the world. You will stop at nothing, and use any other side to play against us be it Germans British whatever. Besides what statement made my comment anti-semitic? If pointing that out makes me anti-semitic so be it.
Piorun   
4 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Harry you make it sound as the only Poles that flew in Battle of Britain were in 303 Sqn. Looking at specific units you will find that:

501 Sqn Polish aces, Skalski and Głowacki who in a single day on 24 th of August downed 3 109's and 2 Ju 88's. Later on he flew in 611 Sqn.

302 Sqn had two Polish aces of the Franch campaign Główczyński and Nowakiewicz.
39 Sqn another 3 Polish pilots Pfeiffer, Pniak and Własnowolski who later was moved to 607 Sqn. Własnowolski was killed on the day he received posting to a Polish fighter squadron.

74 Sqn another two highly successful Poles Szczęsny and Brzezina known as “Sneezy” an “Breezy” because Brits could not pronounce their names.
609 Sqn mentioned by yourself in the post above had Polish pilots Ostoja-Ostoszewski and Nowierski.

One can go on and on giving an example after example. As for the statistics Britain needed their own heros too and what kills were attributed to one pilot historians now have doubts and dispute the findings like in the case of German ace Helmut Wick whoes downing was attributed to Dundas of 609 who in turn was killed minutes later by Wicks wingman. Historians now speculate that the kill was actually made by Zygmunt Klein a Polish pilot of 152 Sqn.

Dose it really matter who did what? In my opinion no, the only thing I can't stand is how people like you Harry will use anything at your disposal to belittle and downplay Polish contribution to the downfall of Nazi Germany. It's no surprise to me really to see a Jew like yourself manipulate the facts of History. How else would you achieve your goal of milking the money off of Poland. As for the Brits perhaps they should learn more about their own history.
Piorun   
2 Sep 2009
UK, Ireland / Poland Flying the Flag at Gay Pride in Manchester [75]

@ SzwedwPolsce

Come on now, I was just ridiculing this sort of studies easily manipulated by the activists. Speaking for myself whenever I take a survey I always lie precisely because it's anonymous. There are batter ways of obtaining data if you were serious about it. Polls and surveys are just done to obtain the numbers you need for whatever political reason or agenda you might have, so you can be seen as legitimate. There are many ways you can manipulate the results, from the way you form your question to plain cheating. I will never buy into the argument that this is a condition you are born with predetermined by some gene. To me it has more to do with psychology, you know nature vs. nurture. The environment is to blame for their deviation from norm but that's not always the case. Sometimes it's the excess or even a sheer boredom like in many ancient civilizations where the elites engaged in orgies which in turn led this sort of behavior to be accepted as a norm, but it's still psychological rather then physical you're not born with it, you acquire it.
Piorun   
2 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Do you see them so agressively fighting this image???

you must understand one thing, they are just being themselves.
Piorun   
2 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

we are talking about the 2nd best war machine of all time here up against a British army that was re-arming and rebuilding at the time.

Very interesting take on the situation considering what you and some Yanks say when you talk about Polish defensive war of September 39. Dose this make your achievement that much greater? You know what I'm talking about. Besides who's fault is that, prior to Italy joining Germany and Japan in the Anti-Comintern Pact you did absolutely nothing about the German takeover of Rhineland. You let Germany do whatever they wanted despite the Treaty of Versailles which you as a signatory on the winner side failed to enforce till it was too late. This pattern of failed diplomacy continued with the Chamberlain idea of peace. Not only that this lead to rapid German rearmament, but even worst, Britain was viewed as insignificant, unimportant and a pushover by the Nazi Germany. The way they saw you was that you will eventually compromise to salvage whatever was left over from your empire but in a meantime you're not significant enough of a threat for Germany to pursue her goals.

Face it the very same issues you are trying to defend here by providing those pathetic excuses was the cause for the greatest misery Britain had ever known and you as a nation paid dearly for it. I feel for you and sympathize with you but propagating this lie by giving all those excuses is not really helping your cause. The sooner you realize the blunders you have made through your diplomacy that eventually lead to this the better.

This however is not as bad as what you have done later on, (mind you not just you, Yanks are equally to blame here) during and at the end of the war without having guts to keep our government in exile in the loop sort of speak. Given the fact that it was based in Britain, we were allies mutually involved in fighting common enemy and not even a threat to each other. Despite all of this you make a back room deal effectively enslaving our nation for the next 44 years. Put yourself in my shoes and be honest, would you buy any of the crap you try to sell here?
Piorun   
2 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

Tribute to the fallen ones by Konstanty Ildefons Gałczyński

Pieśń o żołnierzach z Westerplatte

Kiedy się wypełniły dni
i przyszło zginąć latem,
prosto do nieba czwórkami szli
żołnierze z Westerplatte.
(A lato było piękne tego roku)

I tak śpiewali: Ach, to nic,
że tak bolały rany,
bo jakże słodko teraz iść
na te niebieskie polany.
(A na ziemi tego roku było tyle
wrzosu na bukiety)

W Gdańsku staliśmy tak jak mur,
gwiżdżąc na szwabską armatę,
teraz wznosimy się wśród chmur,
żołnierze z Westerplatte.

I śpiew słyszano taki: - By
słoneczny czas wyzyskać,
będziemy grzać się w cieple dni
na rajskich wrzosowiskach.

Lecz gdy wiatr zimny będzie dął
i smutek krążył światem,
w środek Warszawy spłyniemy w dół,
żołnierze z Westerplatte.

Song of the soldiers of Westerplatte.

When their time had come at last,
to die that summer.
They marched towards heaven four abreast,
soldiers of Westerplatte.
(Summer was lovely that year)

They sang: It’s no big thing,
this awful pain of our wounds.
How sweet it is to enter in
the heaven’s verdant plain.
(Heather had bloomed in abundance that that year
for bouquets)

In Gdańsk we stood as firm as wall,
the German guns - small matter.
Through clouds towards heaven we ascend,
soldiers of Westerplatte.

Thus this song was heard: Amidst the fields of heather,
in paradise shall ye bask
at noonday’s gentle heat,
to regain this sunny weather.

But when cold winter’s wind shall blow,
the gloom - world over.
On Warsaw’s heart shall ye descend,
soldiers of Westerplatte.
Piorun   
2 Sep 2009
UK, Ireland / Poland Flying the Flag at Gay Pride in Manchester [75]

The reason why people "see" very few gays in Poland is that it's not accepted.

That's exactly my point, even if there was a brave enough soul out there to attend such an event he would never draw attention to himself by flying Polish flag.

As far as I know studies have shown that

Well then, studies are wrong. There's always exception to the rule. Besides how would they know? They claim that those people in Poland hide their lifestyle in fear of being persecuted, then they want you to believe that the same people who are so brutally oppressed in Poland admitted it to them and they have a true and accurate count, BS. The people who conduct such studies would not even know where to find those deviants in Poland let alone for those same deviants to admit to a perfect strangers that they are one. So I ask you what studies would those be?

Poles very seldome introduce themselves as "Dzień dobry...

That's the way it shall remain. It's not what you are but who you are, so please keep the details of your personal life to yourself and don't act like one in front of me, I don't want to know and neither do I have the need to know that. Personally I don't give a f*** what anyone dose in the privacy of their own home and I accept the fact that certain portion of the population will and always was “different” and as long as you keep it out of sight I have no problem, besides it's a very small minority.

To let those pervs flaunt it on the streets like that is not OK and it should never be allowed, period. There are public decency laws that they seem to be exempt from because they celebrate their so called life style. It's all bull if you ask me, people have been so brainwashed with that PC crap that they have no idea what's what any more. With all that PC BS they've been fed with people simply lost their perspective and think that it's OK because they celebrate their lifestyle and simply demand to be treated on a equal basis, yet they would not tolerate someone exposing themselves in front of their kid. So how's this kind of behaviour any different be it the pervert in the bushes somewhere in a public park exposing himself to your teenage daughter or be it some homo exposing himself on that sort of parade? It's still a public place where children could be present.

Public don't have the guts to simply admit to itself that it's wrong and just say what's on their mind. No it's not OK for hem to expose themselves in public. My kids should not be forced to be exposed to that sort of behaviour and government should not have the right to teach morality to my children, that's my responsibility and domain. I'm not OK with it and neither is the majority of population. Of course, as soon as you say that, you are label all kind of names starting with a bigot simply because you have a higher sense of morality then they do.

Of course I'm not a total prune and I understand that some segment of the population will always seek some sort of sexual pleasure whatever it is, be it brothel, strip show or alternative life style bar, it all has it's place. As long it's in some sort of establishment where only adults have access to and they are not imposing themselves on the rest of the society, go ahead, knock yourself out, after all you are an adult and a consenting one at that. The way I see it I have no right to judge them and they have no right to promote their lifestyle to my kids be it through that sort of parade on the streets of my city or government imposed curriculum.
Piorun   
1 Sep 2009
News / Poland Remembers start of WW2 [200]

It would also help if someone used an authentic map of that period. Did someone just draw this map from memory? Let's play a game, spot what's wrong with it. Published by BBC, it's a shame really.
Piorun   
1 Sep 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

US economy has a severly broken leg, not a severed one.

Your doctor is lying to you.

Krauts don't loan us money..

No Chinese do

Only more in our 233 years than Poland has ever done..

That's what you think, just like your claim that you pull Poland into the 21st century. You keep taking credits for something you had never done, no wonder your achievement multiply like bunnies in your mind. Keep deluding yourself, now you are finally achieving something on your own.
Piorun   
1 Sep 2009
History / US snubs Poland over WW II ceremony? [75]

At least it will never be as bad as Poland.

Never say never, night is young and you're not out of the woods yet.

Berlin will tell you how high to jump..

Seems like they are telling you guys too or have you forgotten.

I guess somebody had to pull you into the 21st century. You always need help with everything.

One more time, what exactly did you do?