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Moving to england from Poland? I'm making a documentary


philipld 1 | 5  
14 Sep 2009 /  #1
Yay! I'm back...I was philipd but I cannot seem to log in, it just kept saying welcome guest...
Anyway...Is there anyone coming to england to find a job and travelling in a car from poland to england...Basically my polish friend did this a few years ago but i guess now there's lots of flights to manchester and birmingham that there's no need to drive, but I wanted to make a film/documentary, I'm only a small set-up me and a friend want to make a good film to show up on the screen in birminham city centre...Plus I want to go to poland...If there's no-one then I might just make a story of my polish friend with my actress who I was going to do the documentary with, the story was the first Idea I had but it seems better to make it real...

If anyone can help it would be nice, I remember there was a teacher on here thats in crakow...
BTW...I'm not the type like a film company who would make a place look cold in the films, Poland is pretty and in fact england is the worst place if anywhere and that's what I'm trying to show.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Sep 2009 /  #2
.Is there anyone coming to england to find a job and travelling in a car from poland to england..

This is not very clear to me.
You are looking for Polish people who are going to drive from Poland to England to find work?
Are you planning on following them or are you inviting them to where you are?
Are you going to pay the people for this?
Do they have to speak English the whole time?
Will you have subtitles?

Poland is pretty and in fact england is the worst place if anywhere and that's what I'm trying to show.

Why are you trying to show that?
Both England and Poland have ugly and cold places as well as wonderful and beautiful places.
OP philipld 1 | 5  
14 Sep 2009 /  #3
Thanks for your reply :)
I know...but I don't like england and I like poland and it needs to be showen that poland is nice because people here are narrowminded...I will make it how it is...

I mean to travel with them from poland...
Maybe It would be safer just to talk to my polish friend about it...or do a story based on most facts
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Sep 2009 /  #4
Maybe It would be safer just to talk to my polish friend about it...or do a story based on most facts

Ah, Safe documentaries are no good ;)

I am sure that if you contribute to the expense of driving from here to there, someone will drive with you.

The important thing here is the language barrier, you will need a translator.

it needs to be showen that poland is nice because people here are narrowminded

I don't know how English people perceive Poland.
Could you tell me the general opinion about Poland there, please.

I will make it how it is...

Yes of course, it will make it much more interesting.
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
14 Sep 2009 /  #5
people here are narrowminded

next you'll be telling us we are all "racist"..(yawns)
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
14 Sep 2009 /  #6
Poland is pretty and in fact england is the worst place if anywhere and that's what I'm trying to show.

Do you mean England is worse than Poland (if so in which respects) or the worse place in the whole wide world (if so then I'd better move out quickly)
dnz 17 | 710  
14 Sep 2009 /  #7
nothing wrong with england, once we get rid of all the sponging chav scum, the muslim extremists and the labour government it will be great again.
welling - | 1  
14 Sep 2009 /  #8
Look philipld
I don’t understand why you want show people that England is not good place compare to Poland.
But this never going to work as there are good and bad things in any country even Poland ....so Poland is not 100% pretty.....
“Poland is pretty and in fact england is the worst place if anywhere and that's what I'm trying to show”
You can’t judge that......England is the worst place...
szarlotka 8 | 2,208  
14 Sep 2009 /  #9
the muslim extremists and the labour government

One and the same?
Piorun - | 658  
14 Sep 2009 /  #10
but I don't like england and I like poland and it needs to be showen that poland is nice because people here are narrowminded...I will make it how it is...

You will honestly call this piece a documentary? Sounds like a propaganda piece to me. You already have preconceived notion of what you like to show. Calling it documentary will not change that fact. Since no Brit had the guts to tell you, I guess I'll have to; a phony story is just that, Phony! Narrow Minded you say, at the risk of sounding like Seanus, some are some are NOT.

What you can do though is; gather a group of friends together, take the trip to Poland, film the entire trip, what you have experienced on the way there, during your stay there and your trip back. Edit most embarrassing bits of course like; running naked through the streets, heavy drinking, puking, what have you and whala done, cheap and interesting piece of the road trip (those are always good) provided you pick some normal friends of yours not some goofballs. Much more honest, funny (if they are not stiff) and appealing to the audience. I for one would like to see this than what you have described in what I've quoted.
sausage 19 | 777  
14 Sep 2009 /  #11
in fact england is the worst place if anywhere

based on your experience/opinion of which areas in England? there are some damn fine and scenic places in England...
OP philipld 1 | 5  
14 Sep 2009 /  #12
All I'm trying to do is make polish people nice...English people know what english people are like so it doesn't matter what I film in England...If I want to film Drunks outside a night club then I will do this...because there is a drunk outside every night club...it seems that's all we do...

I know alot of english are nice...I'm trying to make both sides nice
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Sep 2009 /  #13
All I'm trying to do is make polish people nice...

Why?
Why not show Polish people as Polish people, nice, nasty and more to the point normal.

it doesn't matter what I film in England...

Your whole project is based on Polish people going there, so it's very important what you show there.

I know alot of english are nice...I'm trying to make both sides nice

Why???
Why not just show both sides as they are, warts and all, why do you think you have to show people as being "nice"?

Edit*
If that's the case, why don't you just come to Poland and make a documentary about Poland, as it seems England does not really count in your documentary?
OP philipld 1 | 5  
14 Sep 2009 /  #14
I think I am naieve...I just met so many friendly polish people in my office about 35 people...all held doors open for eachother...and other things...so much more emotive...that is why I want to portray it...I want to show people in england that they are nice...and english people know about english youths that are involved in crime so showing this would be nothing new to them...so they know how many problems are in their country...I just want to show polish people...and the nice countryside, coming to english city that isn't so pretty to work hard...

It doesn't matter anymore I'm getting to many people arguing with me now (except you shaun I think) :) ...
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Sep 2009 /  #15
I think I am naieve...I just met so many friendly polish people in my office about 35 people...all held doors open for eachother...and other things...so much more emotive...that is why I want to portray it...I want to show people in england that they are nice...

I think you need to get out more.
In the wise words of SeanUS, some are and some aren't.

english people know about english youths that are involved in crime so showing this would be nothing new to them...

Hahaha, wow, English youth are just criminals hahaha.

I just want to show polish people...and the nice countryside, coming to english city that isn't so pretty to work hard...

I think we all know what you mean, you have met some great Polish people and think they are cool.
That's great and perhap you should start off with interviews.
I will assume you are English and therefore see the problems of society in England and see it as negative.
In fairness a lot of people are overly critical about their own country.

Have you been to Poland?
You should come, there are very many different elements and your "naivety" might make for an interesting watch.

It doesn't matter anymore I'm getting to many people arguing with me now (except you shaun I think) :) ...

Ah, don't worry, it's the internet and this is a discussion forum.
I think this might be a good place for you to iron out the details of what you are looking for.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Sep 2009 /  #16
Thanks, Sean. That's a potential thread killer, tho. There are so many auxiliaries. Some are, some do, some can etc etc.

A documentary should be a well-balanced presentation. Do you have enough exposure to make it well rounded??? For example, I met a couple from Szczecin and they said that people often open the doors for others there. Here in Silesia, they seem to take great delight in letting the door shut in your face.

As long as it's objective and broad I guess.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384  
14 Sep 2009 /  #17
.all held doors open for eachother..

Don't count on that happening much here. On the other hand get yourself up north (uk that is) and you'll find that they hold doors open too.

In Poland holding doors open usually occurs among groups of people who know each other or are familiar.
OP philipld 1 | 5  
15 Sep 2009 /  #18
Wroclaw
I'm in manchester :D...But Maybe it was just my experience of nice polish people...maybe they have their bad bits too...I just thought was a better culture than uk of drinking and clubbing every night...
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
15 Sep 2009 /  #19
But Maybe it was just my experience of nice polish people...maybe they have their bad bits too...

Yes, they are human and have faults just like the rest of us.

I just thought was a better culture than uk of drinking and clubbing every night...

But that is only an aspect of the culture in the UK and there is so much more, personally I love the theatres and museums.

Some of the greatest minds like Darwin, who revolutionised the whole of humanity and the music.
There is also knife crime and binge drinking but that can be avoided, to a large extent.

I think you should come to Poland, tickets are cheap and have a look.
As I mentioned Poland has many different aspects and you can focus on positive or negative.

Perhaps you would be interested in the £ódź film festival.

Also Poland made some fantastic films in the past, you could take a look, just use the search function at the top right of this page.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,441  
15 Sep 2009 /  #20
I think the OP is talking about personal relationships with Poles. English are much more reserved at first while Polish, or Slavs in general are not.
Wroclaw Boy  
15 Sep 2009 /  #21
English are much more reserved at first while Polish, or Slavs in general are not.

what as in English people being stand off ish when they first meet a stranger, on the contrary id say its the exact opposite.

Poles being friendly when you first meet them? i have to think long and hard for a personal example.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
15 Sep 2009 /  #22
That's a bit of a generalisation, aphrodisiac. I don't think it's really true. Some older English folk can appear aloof as they are just content with their lot. I imagine many to be very good to chat with.
Juche 9 | 292  
15 Sep 2009 /  #23
But Maybe it was just my experience of nice polish people...maybe they have their bad bits too...

heres a funny example of Warsaw crassness: I was approaching the counter at to order something (and was literally two steps away from it) and this little college age twat sees me and bum rushes the counter to order before me. I swear this city is full of a*holes.

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