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ShelleyS   
28 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

I don't think that's the case with your friend though, because obviously, if she went
to confess her sin then she must have realised that it was wrong and then she got
her absolution.

Personally I dont feel a "man" has the right to say who is right and who is wrong, only God can do that, so in my opinion she should have just asked God for forgiveness, as we know God is all knowing and all forgiving, so it was just an opportunity for the church to make her life even more miserable than it was, to humiliate her and put her through unecessary stress.

will have their "reward"

Oh goody ;0) I'm going to have get me one of those there abortions so I get me a reward!...

You see - even if you kill a grown up, innocent man, let's say shoot him in the head
and then you regret it deep in your heart and go to confession - you WILL get your
absolution but IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE HEAD IS OK
and that we should try to justify it.

Not quite the same thing is it, but if that is your justification for hating women then so be it.

I will not answer that question, because the words I would like
to use for this man are hardly suitable for public forum.

Why? You feel justified in your indignation at women and their behavour, what's the word...oh that's it.... Evil......
ShelleyS   
28 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

There are certain conditions that have to be met to receive valid absolution,
you don't get it automatically even if the bishop says so

She got pregnant, she had an abortion, she was 17 years old, no other circumstances, she was given absolution off the Bishop...as far as she is concerned she is forgiven.

Neither of us really
knows what's going on in your friend's soul so there's no point in bringing such
arguments into discussion.

I know exactly what went on in her life because I was the friend she confinded in first and I know exactly how she is years later, she's had a wonderful life, so no devine retribution there....

My point was valid, you said she was evil, yet the bishop said she was "troubled" and forgave her.

By the way Im not some "feminist" I just love the way men throw that one in! I am merely putting another side of the story, maybe trying to make you understand that it's not an easy option for a woman. Maybe you should read the other thread on the board where a guy told his girlfriend to get an abortion...what is he?

That's your opinion. Luckily for you, your mother wasn't of the same opinion
when you were just a "fetus".

What would I have cared, I wouldn't have known about it.

so don't you try
to patronize me.

I can't help it when somone uses words like "evil" to describe a woman who has a termination, but I will try harder not to.
ShelleyS   
28 Apr 2009
Travel / Ukraine / Poland border travel [12]

I've been looking at going for some time and did a bit of research, as suggested it is cheaper (considerably so) than Poland and very pretty.
ShelleyS   
28 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Abortion is murder.

You have your views and I have mine, come to me when you are grown up and had a bit of life experience.

Well, but a newborn child also couldn't function outside of the womb without
constant care and supervision, so? Where do we set the limit? Ability to walk,
to speak or... maybe solving algebraic equations?

Okay I will simplify it for you:

A fetus can not breath.
A fetus does not feel
A fetus can not communicate.
A fetus is not a human being.

It's not a cuddly cute, crying, shitting, smelly baby, it is a collection of cells.

by Philip K. Dick for all those who think that man has right
to decide when "the embryo becomes a baby").

quote]

And listen to some Dick going on about things that will never actually affect him, no thanks!

Oh yes, you're right - let's kill the kid instead. It's better than living,
not knowing who its mother was, right?

Again it is NOT murder, it was not a kid and it didn't have any experience of life.

May the God Almighty have mercy on those who slaughter innocent, defenseless
babies and those who try to justify this crime. They shall get their "reward".

It's okay my friend had an audience with the bishop and he absolved her, her sins...so you see that's the benefit of being religious, you can kill babies and still go to heaven ;0)
ShelleyS   
28 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

it's not only the life of the woman in question
also the life of the child

It's embryo not a child, it could not function outside of the womb at the very early stages of a pregnancy.

There can be also ways implemented to help lone mothers give birth and raise their children (if they want to keep the child and not to give it away)- though this one involves money of course - it is already done in Poland on not so big scale by welfare organizations some religious some not. (they call it children villages 'wioski dziecęce' as far as I know)

You make it all sound so lovely, but how about the mother that carried that child and how about a child growing up not knowing who it's mother was? These feelings have to be taken into consideration.

Woman abort for many reason, but I think the main one is the feeling of not being able to cope mentally, physically or financially, abortion is NOT an easy option for some women it is the ONLY option. When a woman aborts she will generally only tell a close friend, if a women decides to go on with the pregnancy and then simply leave it on a doorstep, think of the questions that will be asked, it's not really an option, besides regardless of how callous or evil you think women who abort are, I think they care more than someone who would simply abandon a child.

[quote=gumishu]btw there is huge hypocrisy in Polish medical circles when even women who's life is endangered are sometimes refused free abortion (for moral reasons they say - a doctor can refuse performing abortion)/quote]

A doctor has the right to refuse, they can do this in the UK, they can refuse to give out the morning after pill all on religious grounds...hypocrisy is worldwide and not confined to Poland and as you say these same people will quite happily perform an abortion for hard cash!...

This topic is getting as old as Adam himself, there are no rights and wrongs, abortion goes on all around the world, thankfully in the UK woman can undergo this procedure in the safety of a hospital and not some dirty back street clinic, prior to abortion being legalised in the UK

Following the introduction of legal abortion the number of maternal deaths following illegal abortions fell sharply. In 1970-72 (the first full triennium during which legal abortion was available) there were 37 reported deaths from illegal abortion, falling to one in 1979-81. No maternal deaths from illegal abortion have been reported since, including this triennium.

archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/doh/wmd/wmd-ap1.htm

At present, 13% of maternal deaths worldwide are due to unsafe abortions - 60% in some countries.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4686650.stm
ShelleyS   
28 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

You either follow religion or not.You can't be a little bit pregnant, or a little bit Catholic :-)

Wrong, religious zealots follow religion blindly; rational intelligent people allow themselves to question things that are wrong.

I have used the morning after pill 48 hours later, I could have been a "little" bit pregnant!

All I see is men constantly banging on about abortion and the rights and wrongs, it's simply too much for a man to understand the complexities of the state of a woman’s mind when she finds out she's pregnant, some women are over joyed some are full of dread, some women have a loving man by their side to help them through any doubts and some have an irresponsible pig who couldn't care less.

Why would a woman who has been abandoned by a man ruin her life and burden herself by bringing a child into this world when a man can not even be bothered to stick around? For men who are so against abortion, remember to be very careful when banging that girl you have no intention of spending the rest of your life with! ACCIDENTS HAPPEN!
ShelleyS   
27 Apr 2009
Love / Age difference in our relationship. I'm 41, my girlfriend is 27. Common in Polska? [57]

It would raise eyebrows here in the uk as there is a noticeble difference in the age.

Since when? Men have always dated younger girls in the UK It's 13 years difference hardly kiddle fiddling! Maybe if you were the one who was 27 and she the 41 it might have caused a bit of a stir a few years ago, but these days it's even acceptable for women to date younger men.

Stop thinking too much about it or it will cause a problem.
ShelleyS   
27 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

and we sank half the British fleet,

When?

As to the rest of the sh!te in the topic I'll stick a lovely British victory (reversed) v to you! I am not going to apologise for colonising or being born in one of the greatest countries to have ever existed.

Regarding colonisation, if you remember correctly this little island had been invated and colonised a few times, you do remember the Romans, the Saxons and the Normas? I suppose we just made the best of it and were destined to be Great, which in itself says that we are in fact superior!
ShelleyS   
24 Apr 2009
Love / I'm pregnant by my Polish boyfriend but he wants me to abort it! [132]

Obviously you are wrong but then let think about recycling!
So what is going on with aborted "fetus"?

It's generally used by medical students or incinerated, as Ive stated i's only the size of a kidney bean at 8 weeks so hardly big enough to make a bar of soap.

Look lesser I will say again I am not advocating abortion - a very close friend of mine premiturely had her little girl at 25 weeks pregnant, Victoria is now a highly inteligent and beautiful 16 years old - our abortion laws are wrong and i do believe the limit should be a lot lower than 24 weeks.

The facts still remain that if men were more supportive and responsible, less women would consider abortion.
ShelleyS   
24 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / Getting married to a Polish Citizen in the UK [371]

I'm a south african national currently on a visit visa in the Uk. I've come to visit my girlfriend after our last meeting in South Africa 8 months ago. We now plan in getting married and to live here in london. She has Uk residency, is it possible for me to get a visa in order for me to work and live here without needing to go back in my country and applying for a visa. Could anyone please kindly advise me as i cannot find proper information , maybe i'm not checking in the appropriate web sites.

You will have your permission to marry refused since you are on a "visit" visa, you need a marriage visa which you will need to apply for in SA, since she is Polish and only a resident and not a citizen in the UK you may be refused a marriage visa too.

I wouldn't recommend trying to overstay since getting a job will be difficult, none EU nationals have to have ID cards now and employers wont take the chance since they get a £10,000 fine for employing an illegal.

Best to take her back to SA.
ShelleyS   
24 Apr 2009
Love / I'm pregnant by my Polish boyfriend but he wants me to abort it! [132]

Why don't you educate yourself before lecturing others about really serious matters? You know TV is not the most reliable source of knowledge about anything.

lol...why don't you crawl out of the dark ages! It's the size of a kidney bean and is not a baby, it's a fetus.

I am not advocating abortion as a form of contraception...just think lesser, if this lovely Polish man hadn't forced her into this situation she wouldn't be forced to make this decision. If men were more responsible then women wouldn't abort!

You need a therapist.

Or a good fooking slap!
ShelleyS   
24 Apr 2009
News / Non-Polish members - what knowledge does your country have about Poland? [35]

What is the general knowledge about Poland and polish history in your country? Particularly the situation before, during and after WWII. Do you learn about Poland in school? Do you know any famous poles? Is the view of polish people positive or negative when it comes to historical events?

The most I knew about Poland prior to their membership to the EU was about Lech Wałęsa and his fight for workers rights and that Poland was under communism after WWII oh and they had lovely beaches (I worked with a woman when I was about 17 that who was born here (UK) but had Polish parents and she used to go there for her holidays)

To add to Wypsi's comments about the vodka, my eldest brothers best friend's parents are Polish and they plied him with vodka one xmas and he was very ill ;0)
ShelleyS   
24 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]

In Poland the hard shoulder is where you drive when the idiot in the Audi is driving towards you on your side of the road.

The key word here Trev is POLAND, the accident happened in ENGLAND - he was an experienced driver, he drove for a living, I am sure in his 3 years of living here he had driven on many motorways, you know as well as I do there are plenty of motorway works - it's not uncommon, this was NOT an accident, it was a blatently irresponsible act that cost of the lives of 4 other people, not to mention the fact he has left a small child and wife back in Poland!
ShelleyS   
23 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Ever heard of Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Louis Armstrong, Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Nat King Cole, Aretha Franklin, B. B. King, Dionne Warwick, Al Green? The list is endless.

You forgot Ella Fitzgerald and my all time fav, Dororthy Moore.
ShelleyS   
23 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / FIVE DIE AS POLE DRIVES WRONG WAY ON UK MOTORWAY [78]

Update:

Mariusz Marcin Adamski, 24, a lorry driver from Leicester, made a U-turn in his VW Passat as he got to roadworks, Bedford Coroner's Court heard.

He then drove north, away from junction 10, along the southbound carriageway.


His jobs means he was familiar with the roads in the UK, he was a damn lorry driver!

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8011686.stm
ShelleyS   
23 Apr 2009
Love / I'm pregnant by my Polish boyfriend but he wants me to abort it! [132]

of course but why in the world would someone post such private matters on a public forum? You would assume they would talk to someone close to them first. Sometimes people ask questions and keep asking until they hear the answer they are looking for

She probably has spoken to someone close, but it's like thinking out loud and getting some answers, there is also the anonymity, maybe she doesn't know many Poles and wanted to understand why he has done what he has done.
ShelleyS   
23 Apr 2009
Love / Should I Be Nervous About Going to Poland? Black female dating a Pole. [158]

Just enjoy your visit, as people have pointed out, Poland is made up of white people with a tiny minoirty of others - people will stare and some may make comments, it's the polar opposite of England in so much as you will notice that you are different and people will notice that you are different.
ShelleyS   
23 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / What is in Poland that England doesn't have? [142]

Either way I've been to this Salisbury in Willy…somethig …shire. They've got nectar points. It’s ok. ;)

lol

My answer to the question posed in the title of this thread is simply:

Thinner people and better weather.
ShelleyS   
23 Apr 2009
Love / I'm pregnant by my Polish boyfriend but he wants me to abort it! [132]

I need to find an excuse to try that one :)

scientific experimental reasons? or just the fun of watching a grown man cry whilst jumping higher than a cricket?

Aww come on!! It's really not that serious! He only said that once.
If he says it again then I'd have cause to worry but not at this point.
No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Maybe you don't mind, most women would, being told "if you got pregnant I'd push you down some stairs because I don't want to be a dad" is pretty damn disrespectful.