News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]

Sokrates, you have no right to call anyone a racist. Yehudi is the most patient and tolerant person I've ever met and MareGaea is close to that. The only Jewish members here are rational thinking, pretty open-minded people who simply want to put a stop to the never-ending Jew-bashing that takes place on this forum every single day. They don't start hundreds of threads about 'those evil antisemitic Poles'. They don't bring out hundreds of quotes about every single Pole who had ever done or said anything bad about Jews. They don't generalize or claim that 'Poles are this, Poles do that, how typical of a Pole'.

Who does things like that?
You do. Harry does, joe pilsudski too. And neither of you three is really Polish (as in - ethnic Pole born and raised in Poland) or Jewish. So please, cut the crap.

Life / Disgusted me on your thread about your Jewish brothers [11]

If it makes you feel better hancock then I will tell you that there aren't many ethnic Poles from Poland posting here. Most of the members are either foreigners, immigrants or people who were born and raised outside Poland.

News / Time for a review of Germanic Polish relations ? [30]

Nietzsche was just as much against antipolonism as he was against antisemitism. Would you say that German and Jewish nations had a thousand years of kisses and sparkles?

Like I said - I have nothing against Germans. The majority of Germans throughout history were neutral toward Poland, some hated Poles and a tiny minority loved them. But just like anti-German sentiment in Poland, anti-Polish sentiment in Germany was more commonly expressed than sympathy.

News / Time for a review of Germanic Polish relations ? [30]


I read lots of books. Historical ones too. I've read about wars between Poland and HRE. I've read about wars with the Teutons. I've read about the Polish army stationed around Prussian cities during the Prussian Homage, in case Albert were to decide that he'd rather not make any homages and make Prussia an independent state. I've read about the Partitions. I've read about WWII, expulsions, Prussian Trust and the refusal of accepting the borders until the 70's. I've read about German rulers, politicians and philosophers too. I've read about Frederic the Great refering to 'the slovenly Polish trash', Chancellor Bismarck's words about 'beating the Poles till they despair' and of course many books on Nazis, none of whom spoke well of Poles.

I have nothing against Germans as people, but when we speak about German and Polish nations then saying that he have been anything other then enemies for the past thousand years is nothing but wishful thinking.

News / Time for a review of Germanic Polish relations ? [30]

Sokrates, if Prussians truly loved Poland so much they wouldn't partition us in the first place.

News / Time for a review of Germanic Polish relations ? [30]


You really know nothing about Polish-German history do you? We can discuss our 1000 years of hate and 19 years of reluctant partnership, at best.

News / Man Why Do People Like PO Instead Of PIS [120]


How about PSL?

Don't get me wrong - I'm not a big fan ofPO and I would never wish to waste my vote for them. But the only real choice is between PIS and PO so I'd rather pick lesser evil.

News / Man Why Do People Like PO Instead Of PIS [120]


LPR was not the only party in the Polish parliment - PIS chose to make a coalition with them because PIS approved of what LPR represented not because they had no other choice.


For the first time in years the foreign press speaks about our country and the government using words other than 'nationalistic', 'backward' and 'embarrassing'. As I recall, PO promised to improve our international image.

News / Man Why Do People Like PO Instead Of PIS [120]

1jola

PIS was in a coalition with LPR, so they are partially responsible for everything Giertych came up with. And he came up with Młodzież Wszechpolska. Also, PIS was backed by Rydzyk. And it was during the reign of PIS that some genius thought it proper to propose crowning Jesus. I'm not saying PIS is directly responsible for everything, but that they are in some way associated with all those things, so I would rather not be associated with them.

News / Man Why Do People Like PO Instead Of PIS [120]

When I think of PIS the first thing that comes to my mind is Giertych, Rydzyk, Młodzież Wszechpolska and Jesus officially and with all seriousness crowned as King of Poland...

History / Ranking of the most dangerous and successful enemies of Poland. [32]


Thank God you added the 'lol' or I would have thought tht you might be serious and died on a heart attack.

BTW, since there is some disagreement about who should be called an enemy of Poland, how about we just agree for a definition 'people who ******* HATE Poland'? That should give us lots of people.

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

Very well then - I hereby declare that this passage is despicable and I'm happy that Jews rarely, if ever, quote it while burning people at the stakes and gassing them.

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

1jola, you forgot to add that Hitler also knew about this passage, which is why Holocaust happened. Yes, it definitely justifies everything, after all if Jews were perfect in every way then they wouldn't have been persecuted. I wonder how hard should Christians be persecuted now - for all those crusades and burning people at the stakes and all...

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

1jola, you never know when to stop, eh?

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]


"No wickedness comes anywhere near the wickedness of a woman.....Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die" (Ecclesiasticus 25:19,24).

"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I don't permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner"

(I Timothy 2:11-14).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"Keep a headstrong daughter under firm control, or she will abuse any indulgence she receives. Keep a strict watch on her shameless eye, do not be surprised if she disgraces you" (Ecclesiasticus 26:10-11).[/i]

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

I think both of you are prejudiced.
1jola - your comments are far too accusatory. You're making a huge fuss over nothing. You seem to be desperate just to find something to accuse the Jews of.

Maregea - you, on the other hand, seem desperate to prove that Poland has always been the worst place for Jews to live which is simply ridiculus. Like 1jola mentioned, Poland used to be called Paradisus Judeorum FOR A REASON. Life in Poland was much better for Jews than in most other countries, you can't deny it. As for restrictions - please remember that in the past there were things called ''social classes" and Jews were by no means the only ones with restrictions. Jews were certainly below nobles but still above the peasants - considering that nobles made up only about 10% of the Polish population it basically means that Jews were better off than the other 90% - unfair? Also, it wasn't impossible for a wealthy Jew to become a nobleman - and tax collectors, innkeepers and estate managers are rarely poor. I'm sure that Tatars, Ukrainians and Belorussians in Poland would love to have such a 'terrible' life.

History / Responsibility for Murder of Catholic Poles during WWII ? [172]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial#Poland

News / BNP far right in Poland [116]


I agree that no political party would openly attack anybody but here I didn't mean political parties. I was talking about a bunch of dumb teenagers. Look at the kid in the last picture. Do you really think this kid would be able to understand that a simple gesture might be inappropriate? I think he's just doing what everyone else does and belives that it's ok as long as he doesn't take it seriously. I used to jokingly make this gesture as a child and it never occured to me that it might be wrong.

I'm more concerned about the adults who oversee this group and encourage such behaviour. In my opinion they should be arrested and the youth sent on a trip to Auschwitz or perhaps a meeting with members of Jewish community and Polish concentration camp survivors in order to make sure that their first thought upon hearing the word 'Hitler' is a suffering compatriot and their first thought upon hearing the word 'Jew' is a face of a nice old granny who gave them a cookie.

News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

Yes, borderline. It is undoubtly creepy and shameful, but I have yet to hear about them ganging up and burning a cross at somebody's backyard, or lynching them.

News / BNP far right in Poland [116]

I don't know much about BNP other than that they want Poles out of Britain. In that case I guess LPR would come the closest. They used to be in an infamous coalition with PIS but they brought on our country so much shame and controversies that in the last elections it didn't manage to gain even 3% of votes, so I doubt they will ever make a comeback.

History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]

MareGaea

Ah, well, I overreacted, I admit. I think I will better try to stay away from from heated arguments for a while now...

History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]

MareGaea I reply to posts which offend me personally. I don't blame you for doing the same. And it's funny how you claim that I'M the one who isn't objective and the same time spit out offensive crap along the lines of:


First find a quote of me saying that "You Jews went merrily on killing polish patriots for the Soviets" and only THEN we can argue over which one of us is less objective.

Also keep in mind that my comment back then was a very emotional response and something of a challenge to you. Even when writing it I didn't say that 'this is the truth and nothing but!' I specifically said:


And the funny thing is that I don't even think the way I wrote. After all I myself would love to go back in time and defend my homeland, whereas I would never wish to be a Jew during Holocaust. But you said that Poles merrily murdered Jews and any Pole who says that 'Poles suffered more' should go to jail - an insult and a challenge in one, I couldn't just leave it without a rebuttal. Would you? Seeing as you can't stop yourself from getting into arguments with maniacs like joe pilsudski, I doubt you wouldn't.

>^..^<

Vetala (only started paying attention to Jewishness since visiting here and found that her Polishness is apparently something to be ashamed of - at least for Jews)

History / Ross kemp on Polish Gangs/Nazis - Untermenschen Nazis..?? [69]


I once read that Jews make holocaust-themed pornos.

News / Should Poland let in refugees from USA ? [80]

For the same reason why Poles are called 'Polacy' instead of 'Pole-acy'. The word 'Slav' doesn't come from 'slave' it's the word 'slave' that comes from 'Slav'.

And why do you think Japanese call Poland 'Porando' and not 'Porushuka'? because that's a transliteration of the English word for Poland.

1) So what is the problem then? Are you denying that Slavs used to be enslaved en masse in the past? In that case just go to Gniezno and look at the scenes from the life o Saint Adalbert of Prague - one of them was his protest against the passivity of Polish rules towards the continuing enslavement of now Christian Poles. And if you prefer something closer to our times, you can check what did the Trinitarian Order do for Poles and other Slavs in the 17th century.

2) Yes, I am Polish.
3) As I recall, katakana is used for loanwords.

Please, try and keep to the topic, which is: Should Poland let in refugees from USA ?

News / Should Poland let in refugees from USA ? [80]


Not only Romans, I'm afraid. Ask any Arab why do they call Slavs 'Saqualiba';)

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]




No, I don't, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject I was talking about. Instead of providing counterarguments to the points I made you argue over words like 'a' or 'the' apparently hoping that if you continue doing this for long enough I will forget about the original subject. That's the most sad, pathetic thing I've ever seen.

1) You didn't call General Government a state. You did however say that it's laws were unacceptable, since it did things that are morally questionable. Polish People's Republic also did things that are morally questionable, not to mention the communist government was imposed against the will of most Poles, therefore making it's laws and decisions unacceptable, including parades, border changes and reparations.

2) Polish government in exile continued to exist up until the end of communism in Poland. After that it symbolically gave it's 'power' to the Polish government of 1989 symbolically making it a successor government to the Polish G-i-E. The communist government imposed on Poland by dishonest, illegal means was the one which agreed for a parade in Moscow, not the Polish governemnt-in-exile. Therefore, your argument that 'Poland' wanted it and agreed on it is false.

3) The elections of the communist government had to be faked, so apparently more Poles were against them.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Yet another lie!
You exact words were "I look forward to you quoting the post in which I say that "the General Government was an illegal state whose law was unacceptable"'

I pointed out to you that YOU DID INDEED say that the law of the general Government was unacceptable and implied that it's actions as well as actions in accordance to it's law were illegal.

oh Harry, isn't it ironic how you call people liars and in the next line clearly, unashamedly lie yourself? But then again, what should I expect from the Moral Guardian?


You're the one who said that Delegatura was a succesor to the structure of AK. Your words, not mine.

Moreover, your original question WAS NOT ABOUT AK AT ALL. It was:


And the link provided by me proved that 'we' as in 'Poles' WERE bothered to fight the Soviets. No matter how hard you try to pick at the wording and little details won't change that one fact.

News / What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance? [297]

I was once laughed at in a humiliating manner when I asked a waiter in pizzeria in Italy to speak English and my grandmother, wishing to be helpful, pointed at us and said 'Polacco'. But I'm a polite, rather shy person so I didn't react. I should have left but my grandmother didn't know what was going on so I didn't want her to feel embarrassed. It did make me feel uneasy in the presence of Italians though...

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


And pray tell me where did I say that it was your exact quote?





I look forward to you convincing me that you didn't mean by this that law of the General Government was unacceptable and things it did were illegal. You do lie so very well after all!


If it was a succesor and a structure of AK, then it makes no difference. AK soldiers were tracked down, arrested and sent off to Siberia years after the war so apparently they WERE considered enemies and danger to the Soviets.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


As a matter of fact I can. I was refering to our conversation in another thread concerning legality of homeless people buying houses whose owners are assumed dead. You said that transactions done in accordance with the law of General Government are illegal, because General Government did things that are morally questionable.

I suppose in your usual fashion you will now try to convince me that you meant something completely different even though we had a long conversation about the subject during which you did not suggest a different meaning of your words. However I notice that you do that a lot whenever someone quotes you or points out a flaw in your statements or double morality, after which you call them a liar without explaining which part of the statement is a deliberate untruth and then try to wriggle out of the subject by demanding a counterargument to every single thing you ever posted in the thread, even though you yourself don't do the same for arguments of other people.


How about YOU explain it to ME? How did an organisation which didn't exist manage to attack an NKVD camp? Maybe because they never really cease to exist?