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Ksysia   
4 Dec 2009
Language / Dostał buta - genitive / accusative [25]

My question to you or any other lingo-savvy PF-er is whether that phenomenon is characteristic of a certain region of Poland.

I don't recognize it as regional, it's colloquial.
One can't for example use that in formal speech, like in younger towards elder. Can't say 'Tatuchu przyjechał' (Daddy came home).
Ksysia   
4 Dec 2009
Life / 3 Things I LOVED about Poland [58]

time means

things are good, never been better. I'm working with some people who are nice for a change now (!), which is one job out of nine. I need cash for blasting it all on my new project.

Oh I get out a lot - to the moors too. My point is that I can't go to the forest after work, to get to a forest here one has to do all that:

a. plan the weekend
b. set out early
c. drive on the motorway
d. find a parking spot
e. buy a ticket/permit
f. cross the gate
g. buy postcards and coffees at the visitor's centre.

That's called a field trip, not unwinding after work (I admit the PF serves the purpose as well)
Ksysia   
4 Dec 2009
Life / 3 Things I LOVED about Poland [58]

Ksysia, I am just making a very poor joke.
I love the markets here :)

I love the UK markets, to be honest... They have those pretty canvas roofs and bring so much colour to towns. And they sell everything - cleaning liquids, potaoes, cheap watches, towels. And one feels like supporting the traders buying there, too.

My only grief is that the honey farm doesn't produce royal jelly, propolis. It's too cold. But propolis is perfect for cuts and spots. I need it to reverse the effects of air conditioning ;(
Ksysia   
3 Dec 2009
Life / 3 Things I LOVED about Poland [58]

Ksysia:
traditional cow manure farming.

That's bull sh!t.

That's cow dung.

Have you not been to a rynek? I don't mean to go to Carrefour - go to a rynek. There are old smallholders there, some of them come with a horse and bryczka, and get shown in the German newspapers as epitomes of Polish economy.

If you use your nose, you will easily know which veggies are real. They are not pumped up and smell stronger.
Ksysia   
3 Dec 2009
Life / 3 Things I LOVED about Poland [58]

I'm Polish but permit me...

I love that in Poland if I'm angry or sad or tired, I just get out of the city and there's a forest everywhere, so I take a walk and smell the resin. The UK (England), no matter how stunning the countryside is, is a land of... fields, funnily enough...

I also love that I can go to the market and buy any quantity of vegetables, fruit, staples and it's all traditional cow manure farming. I the Island, farm produce is very dear and doesn't have enough sun to develop.

Lastly, some items in Poland just make life better - rock salt of Bochnia and Miód Kasztelański for example.
Ksysia   
3 Dec 2009
Language / Dostał buta - genitive / accusative [25]

Lubię tego batona, palę papierosa, jem pomidora, kalafiora, buraka

All incorrect. it's just a common error.

"chleba" and "chleb" here?

that's to do with number

would you like some cake - chcesz ciasta?
would you like to take this
Ksysia   
1 Dec 2009
Language / Dostał buta - genitive / accusative [25]

It's a deliberate misuse of grammar, just for fun. The same way as we misuse the Vocative - I can say 'Lechu przyszedł', but correctly it would be 'Lech przyszedł'. Lechu is only correct when I'm calling someone over, and the misuse is purely ludic.
Ksysia   
1 Dec 2009
History / The Poms who stood by the Poles in WW2 [156]

I think that there is a mistake here going on and on. Citizen is not the same as national. You can be an ethnic Tatar and a Polish Citizen. Right?

My one Great Grandfather, last name Sprinz, had sat the war out in an Oflag. He was a Polish Citizen and a foreigner, married to a Polish lady. He had not seen a day of fighting I'm told. His daughter was a sanitariuszka, and she carried ammo for the Polish AK (Armia Krajowa), she's mentioned in 'W poszumie lasow koneckich'.

On my BF's side, his Grandpa was conscripted by the Soviets and has a medal for battle wounds (he never shows it). Somebody of their family were in AK (Afrika Korps). Most were smugglers.

Life is never easy, eh?

What about Kleeberg and Haller, Polish Citizens and Military Officers - of German extraction? They are great heroes to me.
Ksysia   
9 Nov 2009
UK, Ireland / Why do Poles come to England? [514]

Poles were defensive until you wrestled with that and got them out of their shells. It takes them a while to trust.

I have the same observation, and about the English as well... In two weeks I'm giving a party at which two locals have confirmed coming. Smashing success, normally they are only coming to Friday beer. While I need 4 weeks to get acquainted in every new job.

And yes, I change jobs often - simply because the first one I found has put me low on the job market, and now the climb back up is painfully slow. No promotions a likely in that case because they are for furniture employees, as this is definitely not America. So I hop a lot.

And they seem to hate it :(

What I don't understand is - how come job is so much a social occasion for them? To me it's a trade - I pay for money with my time and effort. They pay for work with money.

I tried to explain that once to a pal at work (whom I still contact, so I'm not betraying friends in my opinion), and he said he admired my Eastern European attitude?!
Ksysia   
20 Oct 2009
Food / Zaplaska (?) soup [6]

Do you think it could be vegetable soup with zasmażka?

zasmażka makes the soup become thicker. simply melt a spoon of butter on a pan and fry a spoon of flour in it, then add that to the boiling vegetable soup.
Ksysia   
20 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 4 - Language [66]

When food supplies were haphazard and/or rationed, you didn't go experimenting around

not sure what myth lies behind that, probably something like: 'Poland is of course poorer so they definitely have less food and worse than we so since we can't afford meat then they can't afford proper food'.

To clarify - in Poland we have no cultural experience of a famine, this had happened obky in 20th century which is like yesterday, after the major wars.

When I read books or blogs imagining Poland in say 16th century, and there is a housewife with five kids crying at the sight of meat scraps that she finally has - well, it's not like that.

If you refer to Kurlansky's 'Salt. A history', you'll learn that we have not experienced hunger because we eat vegetables and we preserve food with rock salt (something that the Brits refuse to eat even today, they use sea salt). That's why you had to eat pies, to use half-rotten scraps of meat, that's why there are no forests - they were cut out not for ships, but for fuel to evaporate brine.
Ksysia   
20 Oct 2009
Life / BULLYING IN UK AND POLAND? [8]

I remember that in second class in primary school there was a girl we took it out on because she kept saying that she had a glass eye. we mocked her. one time i said that if it were true, she would show us. and she did. that stopped everything, we were too shocked for many days after. rest of my school days were just normal fighting and beating the boys up.
Ksysia   
9 Oct 2009
History / Why are we called Poles instead of Polans? [29]

The OED says:

Polan, n.

Now hist. and rare.

A native or inhabitant of Poland, a Pole.
1502 in H. Ellis Orig. Lett. Eng. Hist. 1st Ser. I. 50 The Hungaries, Boyams, and the Polans. 1581 J. BELL tr. W. Haddon & J. Foxe Against Jerome Osorius III. f. 373, French men also, Germaynes, Dalnes, Switzers, Bohemyans, Polans, Rettes, Scottes & all other nations. 1604 T. WRIGHT Passions of Minde (new ed.) I. x. 44, I might discourse over..Italians, Polans, Germanes. 1665 B. GERBIER Subsidium Peregrinantibus ix. 117 The Polans well accustomed to Pump those forraigne Inquisitors, by setting close mouthed..Masters of Ceremonies on them. 1864 New Englander (New Haven, Connecticut) Apr. 276 Originally they were known as Polans, Masovians, Lenczycans, Kurjavians, [etc.]… A thousand years ago..they appeared in history under the name of the leading tribe, as Polans or Poles. 1873-6 Amer. Cycl. 644/1 The Polans..formed the most conspicuous group, and eventually gave their name to the whole nation.
Ksysia   
9 Oct 2009
Life / WHAT DO YOUNG POLES SEE IN RAP CRAP? [63]

rock out to Beethoven's fifth. ^_^

Beethoven was for the Bishops and Princes. Countryside music has much more beat in it!

So what exactly is wrong about rap? Not rhyming, not simple arranging. Probably coming from black people?

So - how about French rap? Is that also wrong?

Rap is one of the ways that traditional music is revived - a melo-recitation of sorts.

And why do Polans do that kind of music? Well, why not? Some of us also meet on the yearly Indian convention, as in Native American. Or in Viking Picnic on Wolin.

ranores.w.szu.pl
Ksysia   
8 Oct 2009
History / Why are we called Poles instead of Polans? [29]

everybody else is an -an

Slovakian
Russian
German
Norwegian
Argentinian
Catalunian

with the exception of peoples with adjectives instead of names

English
French
Finnish

but I think nobody else is constructed like Poles.

How would that be?

Eng
Frank
Argent

???

I try to use the older form, Polan instead of Polish or Pole, because they have other meanings as well.
Ksysia   
8 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / What is good about being in the UK? [140]

Maybe they still do?

Funny how Czech has roads, Croatia has roads, Slovakia has roads, Madeira has roads, but we - never.

Fine by me, I would plant more trees to create more forests.
Ksysia   
7 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / What is good about being in the UK? [140]

You know fine well what I mean.

Yikes! That's the same thing that the 'history teacher', Coach Murray, told me in an Alabama high school when he wanted to invite me to a party... :'(

I get you now - you thing that shouting 'rape' at any critique is standing up for your country! Good, good to meet a patriot. But... take a lesson from BB.
Ksysia   
7 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / What is good about being in the UK? [140]

Oh, dear I thought than only rich people can be arrogant how wrong I am! Must be the closed-mindedness.
If you don't see the compliments, then as I said, I will try to simplify the figures of writing, and put ...NOT!!! somewhere.

You know, the whole idea of thread like this came to me when reading 'what do you hate about England', and I said there:
'I hate that they have better roads, because it makes me jealous',
and they answered
'so get the f out'.

But, let me explain that to you, if something makes me jealous it's obviously because it's good. Here is your compliment. But it seems that if people see 'hate', or 'sad', they just don't feel the need to read any more, because they already know everything. Shame. At school we have this exercise 'reading with understanding'. Try it sometimes.

About the 'allowing me to'. There were no real borders and passports until Count Bismarck from Prussia invented them. Enjoy them, but they are just here for a period in history.

That reminded me of a certain guy Darren, who told me once with joy 'You have to feel so grateful to us that we have let you come here'. And, just to clarify - why on earth? Does Peter, the English chap who works in Doha now, feels grateful, for the love of God? No, he's there for a time, he is doing some work. Normal business. I can't see any reason why you folk go sky-high on those imaginations how other people are supposed to be grateful to get the worst jobs in England??? If my man gets a better job in Doha - we will go to Doha.

And let me tell you - English people DO complain and moan like little children. Especially the ones in China 'aw, those people don't speak English, aw, those people push in the queue, aw, those people shout'. So now enjoy a little truth from me instead of whinging at other people's countries.
Ksysia   
7 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / What is good about being in the UK? [140]

sweethearts - there were supposed to be ten chapters, but after the last one he forumers just went too hysterical to continue. If you read them with understanding, you will get 9 compliments and 1 frown in each, except the 5th.

The compliment thing - in out culture compliments are not a good thing. One can't praise oneself at all, and giving them to others is tricky. So god things kind of go without saying. If you know your worth, you don't need them. If somebody says a good thing about Poland, you will get answers like 'but we have huge unemployment'.

But - English people love them and even two young mates compliment one another (very unsoldierly). so Lefty - it's not that you had to ask for compliments, it's that you go around asking for them. I understand that you took action to straighten up the opinions on the forum - but in my eyes that was self-centered. Anyways, I hope that now you are at peace. There's good in the UK!
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / What is good about being in the UK? [140]

Hehe, may I?

1. Language as it really works - it's very rich and very beautiful. With every book or article I discover something. 'Flabbergasted', for example.

2. Quiet countryside - with those little country parks, with coffee shops, visitor centres and deckings. I go couple of times each week, I feed ducks and other birds.

3. Old buildings, thatched cottages, walls almost caving in, 'gothic' churches with tiny squares. Not only they are picturesque, they also create an atmosphere.

4. I actually like shepherds pie, and most of all stew and dumplings. I wish there were more of real old traditional dishes around, because that's what would be exotic for me. Not hamburgers.

5. Real ales with real pubs and real ale festivals - that's a huge part of the culture, and the pubs look very otherworldly for me. Love them.

6. I don't really know many English people personally (before you shout - I have tried), but I like how they express friendliness, with that chit-chat, friendly banter, going out for a pint, mocking etc.

7. Theatres and all things about them. Excited people, some wearing rags, some in Sunday best, who all come in and get drunk on wine and are very well communicating - love it.

8. And the infrastructure -roads, internet, change energy provider, pay bills by card online. That bit I think we will soon have, but for now I envy.

9. Hills in Peak District and mountains in Snowdon -but I don't know if Wales counts?
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in UK. Ch. 3 - Food [93]

Read the title of your thread:

Ok, Lefty - I CAN simplify it to THAT level. I even can finish every second sentence with ...NOT!

But all in all it's an important experience for me - I can dumb it down, no probs.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in UK. Ch. 3 - Food [93]

let me see - butter is good, beef is good...

voice from the public

STFU Ksysia, Get out Ksysia!


What did you want me to tell you? Everything is better? You know well for a fact that it isn't.
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 4 - Language [66]

OK forxtrot- you are missing the point. As I said, people who don't speak English fluently don't try for good jobs, I, as it appears, speak English, and honestly, if there is at least one Briton in the group there is not chance of hope that they speak another language, so we just speak English with them.

But, my point was, why should I lean to the demands that I speak with my Polish boyfriend in English on the street so that every low life can control my conversation? I wasn't talking to the low-life, the chap has no right to understand my pleasantries towards my partner.

thinks Poles are way too insecure about issues like this

I don't think so.

Another chapter is coming!
Ksysia   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in UK. Ch. 3 - Food [93]

M-D - I will go to Dublin one day, for sure.

hm, two years ago I would have jumped at the Egberts coffee, but now the helpful Kurd has German coffee, I will just carry on. And Ritter chocolate, too.

I've experimented with all the brands in Sainsbury's and all were bitter :'(

Oh, I can believe that ales are not that good - my man brought a sample pack of Belgian beers once, I liked Grimbergen Ultima the best. I imagine yours are just as good.

All supermarkets are open till at least 8pm

quote correctly - I said all except Tesco's is closed at 5 - supermarkets are open even 24h, sure, but they fall in the category of Tesco's.