News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Because history proves otherwise which means you either dont know the history of the paritions or know it but ignore it.

130 years - 5 uprisings and constant resistance.


However Poland proved itself to be unique in this particular aspect.


History.

Show me a country that faced such odds for 130 years and then took back its independence without much support, a country that wouldnt grow weary during a century of occupation?

Yeah none, except Poland.

In a pill, during 130 years Poles fought 5 uprisings, 2 of which were regular wars which gave the occupants a run for their money, they established a continous underground thriving education system and kept their culture alive and thriving.

Some of the best Polish writers and poets come from the partition era writing about? Independence.

Then Poland goes peacefull for 40 years only to rise in arms the second an occasion comes which proves no one assimilated, no one gave up, everyone was waiting and the entire nation took a chance the moment it came.

In light of this it didnt matter whether the chance came after 130 or if it would come after 300, if our history under partitions doesnt prove we're absolutely unbendable regardless of time or odds i dont know what does.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Which it was not since Polish culture thrived even in Prussia.


I hate romanticizing but there's no way around it, you would need to read some actuall books to realise just how absolutely uncompromising Polish patriotism was in times of crisis, of course some chose the easy path but ultimately assimilation would not happen, Poles did not let go for even an inch for 130 years, what makes you think they would magically change their position in 5 or 50 or 500 years?

If a nation holds on to an ideal for over a century despite such enormous odds its clear enough its not going to let go, ever.


Read up on the subject, some Poles chose to stay "good" and still work for Poland, by and large there was no acceptance towards occupation and no signs it would ever change.


However what happened was that Poland stayed "good" for 40 something years and the moment the opportunity came to kick the occupying forces out there was a nationwide rise to do it, history showed that Poland did not and would not give up so WW1 or not the first European conflict or crisis would see Poles take back whats theirs anyway.

Saying that we'd assimilate when we stayed strong for 130 years and never gave a sign of wearing down is pretty arrogant.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

Not necceserily, Poland would become an influential minority in all paritioning countries, restitution of Poland was only a matter of time WW1 or not, you cant wipe a large nation off the map permanently without extensive genocide, especially not an old one like Poland where with history comes national integrity.

News / PUTIN'S LETTER HAILED BY TUSK POLISH GOVT [17]


For Russia to stop f*cking with us and start being a responsible partner, Germany managed it.

Apart from our political wh0res the majority of the establishment does business with Russia only because its neccesary, no one takes Russians seriously anymore, eventually Russia will want to improve relations and no one will be interested.

Amusingly enough its much more important for Russia to have good relations with us then the other way around, Russia remains only a tiny part of our export and we still are a large importer and a transit country so fvcking with us will eventually hurt them plenty.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]

Southen you seem intent to rewrite history.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Yes they did, what you want to say is that Stalin never gave an official promise, he did however ordered radio broadcasts that encouraged Warsaw to rise, such broadcasts could be interpreted in only one way.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


But they had every intention of subduing Poland, they'd enter with their armies and duke it out here.


Oh please Southern, a country that repeatedly stated that Poland needs to go would just keep bases? Is that some cheap provocation or dont you know your history, 19 years before they tried to wipe us out and you're expecting people to buy that?

Polish goverment didnt buy it then (quite correctly) and its hardly a mistake.


But we chose to fight instead of just bending over and watching our women raped, economy plundered and elites murdered, that was the Russian intention all along, it would happen anyway, the only thing we could keep at that point was our pride.


Mainly because RUssia caused the great hunger and Germany was another anti-Polish state with power, no one gave a dime about Czechoslovakia back then since it was outside the main game.


Again your lack of historical knowledge, Czechoslovakia was willing to go to great lenghts to achieve a compromise with Poland, with a huge Polish army backing them they were most definitely willing to fight and given their level of motorisation and strategic positioning together we would have a good shot at Germany, maybe not conquering it but definitely breaking its military.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


I know what they proposed, the problem was that in reality it meant becoming a Soviet province, it was obvious (and in light of the later Soviet actions proven correct) that once they entered Poland they would not leave.

The goverment simply chose to fight rather than give away our freedom willingly, it would be an agreement to a horrible occupation only marginally better than the Nazi one.


Ukrainian nationalist forces were militarily weak, politically and economically they were virtually non existent, creating a weak buffer state that might shift towards Germany (Ukrainians back then were quite pro German) would be counter productive.


No they were not, the situation was difficult, Poland had no friends in the region and no means of creating them in the short term, it could invest in Ukraine of course but Ukraine was and would be too weak to be of any meaningfull support.

The only thing i agree was a huge mistake was not helping Czechoslovakia, Czechoslovaks had a relatively powerfull army, working with them might have accomplished more than the phony alliance with the West.

News / The most spectacular errors in Polish politics. [264]


Soviets didnt want an alliance.


How would recognizing Ukraine benefit Poland?

Also Southern in 1968 we did not have much choice, to refuse invasion of Czechoslovakia would mean getting invaded ourselves and while this invasion was ceirtanly a bad thing to happen interests of Czechoslovakia were not worth another destructive war for Poland.

Love / How to gain the attention of a Polish man? [71]


Tell him "Jestes barso pshystojny ale mash malego" we're suckers for compliments like that.

News / What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance? [297]


Kaliningrad doesnt count anyway, for all intents and purposes we dont have a border that would threaten us.


One of the highest HIV rates in Russia (which is Africa-esque when AIDS is concerned anyway) and scrub poor, Russians are like a reverse working Midas, everything they touch turns into ruined crap.

News / Jews use American congress to pressure Polish government to PAY [63]

Lame or not, no Polish goverment will ever agree to pay, it would mean permanent political death to every single member of the leading party/president and anyone who'd support it, the public would never forgive it.

Our politicians may be wh0ring for votes but thats exactly why those greedy Jews aint getting a penny, an outrageous claim too.

News / Russia opens archives and Poland demands minority rights from Germany [60]


Crap i was thinking Wyborcza and writing Rzeczpospolita... But the point still stands, someone is proxying for people who would not like Polish-German reconciliation.


Steinbach is an anti-Polish populist and opportunist, she's suspected of sympathizing with neo-nazis, she was against Poland joining NATO and EU, do you really expect she's interested in any arguments Poles might forward?

Love / How to gain the attention of a Polish man? [71]

"Hi you're hot"
"Yeah i am wanna fvck?"

I dunno its either sockpuppet accounts or unadjusted loners posting here. How much trouble can asking someone on a date be ffs, worst he can do is say no.

"Want to grab a coffe after work?"
"No you're unzipped and your boner is sticking out"
"K... "

That simple.

News / What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance? [297]


A Polish prince.


Just Prussians.


They were given lands actually.


Really? Prussian crusades were done mainly because the pissants wouldnt stop invading Polish duchies.

While Poland did conquer and dominate large swaths of todays Ukraine, Belarus and Russia it was done through cultural and military means, religion just piggybacked afterwards. Russia never crusaded either so i'm sorry while Slavs did conquer like everyone else unlike everyone else they were fairly tolerant when it comes to religion.


And thats what happens when buggersou post on the internet, i'm not insulting you, i'm just outlining that being uneducated you make a fool of yourself by making up little stories.

Ciril and Methody opposed German clergy in that they persisted in creating a Slavic version of Christian Church with intent of preserving Slavic culture which would otherwise in time be threatened by German missionaries, they also comprised the first uniform alphabet from many old Slavonic languages and you claim that a professor didnt know that and conceeded that:


If i know that than an educated academic will know that too, there's other reasons for them being incredible heroes for the Slavs but fvck you for making shyt up you troglodyte, there's google so dumb dumbs like you could learn, dont make stuff up in the future.

These two guys are responsible for the fact that we dont have German speaking Russia today.


Rubbish, Polish culture up untill XVI century was a mix of west, east and turkish influences, Poland was for most of its existence a central power completely different from both West and East, you could find people wearing German fashion, Polish clothes, Hungarian clothes, Russian ones, Poland was an extremely mixed state.

Serious westernization starts with the partitions when two Western countries get a large swath of Poland and Russian part starts building up the industry.

Also i'd stop convincing Crow, he's some kind of a troll, he just keeps repeating himself over and over like a schizophrenic energizer bunny.

Love / How to gain the attention of a Polish man? [71]


We are absolutely no different than Brits, there are no special requirements, if he's some twisted serial killer keeping pickled babies in his closet thats because he's fvcked up not because he's Polish, treat him like you'd treat a Brit.

News / Russia opens archives and Poland demands minority rights from Germany [60]


The paper is being owned by a Jewish communist who openly supported Gross' heavily anti-Polish book, i wouldnt its a big newspaper but not necceserily reflecting nationwide views.


Becasue Michnik (the guy who owns it) has an agenda, i'm not sure who's proxy he is but for years now the newspaper act like our forum Harry, except in softcore version.

One theory i have is that he's associating with post-communist Jewry in Russia, if he's a Russian proxy or just a post-commie Jews proxy he wouldnt like to see Polish-German reconciliation which is obviously bad for Russia who doesnt like EU as such as Poland-Germany is one of the oldest strains here, if it gets fixed entire Eastern Europe falls into German-Polish influence.


We did solve it, it is honored, Rzeczpospolita is trolling like always.

Love / How to gain the attention of a Polish man? [71]

Slap him with a naked boob.

History / Drang nach Osten. [79]

Didnt notice its thread necromancy - edited.

News / What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance? [297]


Jesus Christ, you want to collapse our economy with a HIV infested 3rd world enclave? Have you ever seen Kaliningrad? They can keep it.


Sasha is partly right, this is not a start of some grand political offensive but rather demagogical attempt at shoving guilt under the carpet, we should issue measured responces and not allowed domestic idiots (politicians) to use it as their vote gathering bytch, its no big deal.


A typical Russian sees Poland a small and insignificant country (despite us being 1/3 of their economy) of course most are buying the goverment crap to some degree but they dont blame us anymore.


Which in this case is stupid because the majority of Europe stops taking Russian historical claims serious and once future generations of Russians will try and come to grips with their history for good no one will even listen to them.


There is no game so how can there be a ball?:)

That said Russia is stuck at a medieval stage with failing economy and stagnant society, there cant be a dialogue when only one side is capable of talking, Russia is not evil (though it does evil) its simply a product of a century long path that ultimately leads to failiure as a state antagonizing everyone and their brother along the way.

Russia can't change even if it wants to.

News / Words of thanks towards the 'Federation of Expellees' by Angela Merkel [40]


Key word, the nazi fvks are old and will die out soon enough so there's no point in fussing really.

History / Battle of Grunwald 2009 [24]

Poles dressed up as Poles.

News / What needs to happen in the world so that Poland and Russia form alliance? [297]


And with Martians.

History / 64th anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising [71]


Wyborcza for example, most senior reporters are Jews.

Love / Abuse in relationships (my first Polish girlfriend) [216]

Aight Zimmy you're getting bizarre now, peace.

Love / Abuse in relationships (my first Polish girlfriend) [216]


Which is why you're using internet dating portals, on the other hand women are physically weaker, you want equality start a fight that requires testicular fortitude, beating up someone because you can using a slap as an excuse makes you a sad creature.


There's one thing thats larger than my ego and thats my dick and even to me you seem to be compensating for your small penis syndrome, between your fantasies about women shaking ass at you and you beating them sensless for it when you're not curled in the corner hurt by an evil female you sound pathetic.


How about you stop bringing mental cases to the table, self defence is an obvious exclusion, what you're saying is that its beat up a woman for a slap.

Love / Abuse in relationships (my first Polish girlfriend) [216]


No, if she ran towards me with a knife or tried to mug me in a dark alley i'd probably get medieval but we're talking relationships here and yes you should never use violence in relationships, some situations take character not fists.


Calm down, Zimmy argued that we should discipline our women by an occasional gentle kick to the face if they get physical not that we shouldnt defend our lives if a local crackpot comes at us with a chainsaw, its obvious.


Zimmy dont fvck the cat by the tail, you've been arguing that we should discipline women if they get uppity and suddenly it changes into Jenny the Jigsaw assaulting a man with a rusty nailbat.


Seriously man ... Between your milf fantasies and this i'm starting to feel sorry.


You know the way you're writing i'm wondering how did i even survive my dating years, its been over a dozen girls and somehow i managed not to end up a bloodied corpse.


According to Zimmy thats practically murder!

Love / Abuse in relationships (my first Polish girlfriend) [216]

Only if you promise not be beat me up :)

Love / What are the perceptions of polish towards homosexuality? [106]


I've been outside of Poland i've seen it in UK, Belgium and Holland, always felt uneasy and disgusted, men acting overly feminine or doing it with other men just disgust me, i'm not for equal rights, if gays want to live together let them and fry anyone who abuses them for it but dont treat them like you would heterosexual couples, no kids, no marriages, ever.

Love / What are the perceptions of polish towards homosexuality? [106]

As long as they dont feck each other in public, dont kiss each other on the buss or try to adopt kids i dont care.

Also if i ever see two men holding hands i'll make a point of throwing up on their shoes my enormous tolerance notwithstanding.