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osiol   
25 Jan 2009
Language / Ponieważ and "bo wcześniej " [11]

dlatego

Does this actually work the because way around, because I thought I'd seen it somewhere as more of a therefore, ie. A is because B, therefore C?

I am asking for I wish to know.
osiol   
25 Jan 2009
News / WHAT POLISH THINGS COULD/SHOULD BE EXPORTED? [27]

MORE TRADITION, LESS COMMERCIALISM (so far but with the latter obviously increasing),
MANY FOODS,

As we approached the popular fast-food outlet by the main road on the way home, I put all my positive thoughts into the nice tasty meal we'd have when we arrived home, in the hope that positive energy might just counteract the squeal of "Oooh! McDonalds!" from the kids in the back. On this occasion it worked. I didn't have to take an extra-long cigarette break. Eventually, the dinner was kotleti and mashed potato yet again!
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / UK In Recession - It's Official [26]

The time has come for each and every one of you to decide whether you're gonna to be the problem or whether you're gonna be the solution... kick out the jams...

I might get a hovercraft as well as a yacht. I've always fancied a hovercraft.
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

What makes you think that Lithuania pretend that Lithuanian Poles do not exist?.

Nothing.
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

Maybe Belgium is just too uninteresting for me to have really noticed this!

I reckon that it is within Lithuania's interests to officially recognise its Polish and Russian minorities. Pretending they're not there or trying to convince these minorities that they don't exist could undermine Lithuania's identity further. Perhaps the example of Finland and its Swedish minority and their status may have been a better idea than bringing up Belgium. What Lithuania fears most is Russia. If Poles in Lithuania wanted territory to be given to Poland, that would actually weaken everyone's position other than that of Russia.
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
Language / Czy lubi pani kawe z cukrem? [6]

Then Cukier is made instrumental because it follows the preposition 'z'?

I would expect so - ze curkiem. (Z becomes ze before an s, c, z or possibly one or two other sounds). But then you probably know that I'm about as much of an expert on this kind of thing as you are, so someone else probably knows better.
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
Language / POLISH OR RUSSIAN -- MORE MODERN? [20]

I suppose modern language really means any language that is used today as a language of day-to-day communication and discourse. I used to see a crossword clue in the paper I occasionally read: "Extinct language (5)". The answer was Latin, but can we really say that a language that is still used in modern word-formation, law and even science, is extinct? I don't think so, although I wouldn't call Latin a modern language. Pollish and Russian are both modern, and I have decided, having read various things on this thread that it is a simple distinction - either a language is modern or it is not.
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / UK In Recession - It's Official [26]

Even when trying to be optimistic, some people only think of what they don't want to happen. This is just not good enough. I am still hoping to buy a new yacht in the next year or so.
osiol   
23 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / UK In Recession - It's Official [26]

The best thing you can do is be optimistic. If there is a recession (which there is mostly because too many people are prone to negativity), people with ideas, innovation, dedication and optimism will pull through. We're doomed!
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / ARE BRITS MEANER AND LESS HOSPITABLE THAN POLES? [79]

I'm suprised no-one has called round to my flat after I mentioned the contents of my drinks cabinet/bag.
Always hospitable... unless you're a ****

Matyjasz, diddums - "Oh I feel so sorry for you!" but sarcastically.
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
Language / POLISH OR RUSSIAN -- MORE MODERN? [20]

The more streamlined and simple -- the more modern.

What is really more simple about word order in English compared to grammatical cases of other languages? Questions like this depend on the language of whoever is describing it. Perhaps, though, irregular word formation (iść and so on in Polish; foot and feet in English) are signs of more archaisms in a language. However, these things did not all form a long time ago. A common plural of "texts" in modern usage, is "textes" - a recently formed, although unofficial irregular plural.

Esperanto, anyone?
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

It looks like Lithuania's attempt at proving that it is a cohesive nation state. Too much diversity may undermine Lithuanian feelings of nationhood. Perhaps they should look at Belgium and how its population is mixed French and Dutch, yet maintains its distinction. Lithuania, though, has had a much rockier history over recent times, and still rightly fears Russia particularly, far more than Poland.
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / ARE BRITS MEANER AND LESS HOSPITABLE THAN POLES? [79]

MrBubbles

Aren't we supposed to be trying to be a little more hospitable on this thread?

Is that why when people ring your doorbell in Poland at 0700 they keep banging away at it until you answer?

Then let them in at seven o'clcok in the morning, and tell them it's rude not to accept a few glasses of vodka. Well, why not?
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / ARE BRITS MEANER AND LESS HOSPITABLE THAN POLES? [79]

Sometimes this Polish hospitality masks a sinister motive

Like wanting me to persuade the boss to give ***ek or ***ek a full-time contract at work. Not exactly sinister, but I always sensed something of that idea running somewhere through their hospitality. I do believe there is more to it than that. If I didn't, I'd have to actually assume I'm not as likeable as I think I am.

In Poland, when you visit someone it is considered extremely rude not to let your guest into the house and let him rot in the cold at your door. "Tylko nie przez próg!". However I fond out that in England it is considered rude to pop up without any prior notice.

Friends of mine nearly always phone before calling round. I remember when I was young, my mother nattering with other women who lived on the street, nearly always on the doorstep. That may be something to do with assumptions about hospitality, or it may be so they didn't miss anything that happened outside that may be a good source of gossip.

Still, I don't see how whiskey could replace vodka in the future as vodka is an a lot more universal drink.

They're both good and bad. They each have their place. I have a drinks cabinet next to me at the computer containing whisky, vodka and wine. Why my girlfriend insisted on Żołądkowa vodka to go with spaghetti bolognese is something of a mystery to me. I'd have chosen red wine.
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
Language / Polish Conditionals (okresy warunkowe or zdania warunkowe) [23]

jeśli and jeżeli

just the same meaning

Are they interchangeable like albo / lub? If so, would people have a preference (dialectical) for one or the other?
McCoy, I am grateful, but I would be more grateful for more information.

There is a single conditional in normal Polish usage.

Gdydym miał pieniądze pojechałbym do Hiszpanii.
=
If I had the money, I'd go to Spain.

So is this the only one worth learning? But I don't want to go to Spain!

it's even deader than the pluperfect

I won't even ask.
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

It's interesting that Lithuania has such a large Polish presence, yet I haven't spotted any Lithuanian Poles either here on PF or in my experience of working with both Poles and Lithuanians in the United Klingon, or at least none who have said they are from Lithuania. I have worked with a small number of Russians from Lithuania who generally seemed to have a sense of superiority over both Lithuanian Lithuanians and Poles.

Lithuanian jazz was said to be the best jazz the USSR had to offer back in those days, but I still reckon Polish jazz p155ed all over the Lithuanian stuff! Am I allowed to say that?
osiol   
22 Jan 2009
UK, Ireland / ARE BRITS MEANER AND LESS HOSPITABLE THAN POLES? [79]

I've stayed with some very hospitable Poles. There is nearly always a bottle of vodka opened, and if not, a beer is quite likely. I just assumed that I come from a family of inhospitable people. If I go round to my Dad's house, it is unlikely that even a chair will be offered. A cup of tea might take about half to three quarters of an hour. At least having somewhere to sit down is one of the absolute basics of hospitality. I don't think I take after my father in this respect. I always offer food and/or drink, and never fail to find somewhere for guests to rest their arses. Many have to endure a tour of the garden though.

Drinking in rounds does cut down queuing time in pubs, and it is easy enough to say no (or so I've been told).

coin-operated gas ring

Go into a shop and see if you can get a Mars bar without paying.

The idea that Scottish people are thrifty (mean) is perpetuated both by Scots and others. Some quite like this stereotype because it means people are less likely to ask to borrow things, and will be pleasantly suprised when generosity is on display. A bit like the way I like the stereotypes about the English - that we talk like "fwa fwa fwa", run naked around foreign cities whilst vomiting, and generally thinking we can and do run the entire world when in fact, we find it difficult running our own bathwater.

Stereotypes are stereotypes, P3. They often have some basis in reality, but that reality may be one of the past, and they certainly never apply to everyone to whom they are applied.

Isn't that the place you wipe your feet on the way out of?

It's for when the fish and chip shop runs out of vinegar.
osiol   
21 Jan 2009
Language / Polish Conditionals (okresy warunkowe or zdania warunkowe) [23]

What is the difference between jeśli and jeżeli? This subject doesn't appear in the book I've been learning from, and I find this whole subject is something I need to know more about. I need to use conditionals a lot of the time, but even after reading this thread, I feel incapable of actually doing anything more than throwing a "jeśli" at the beginning of a sentence.

If someone asnwers this question, I will be grateful.
osiol   
21 Jan 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

From what I have seen in the UK, Lithuanians dislike Poles more than Poles dislike Lithuanians. It is obvious that they see themselves as being much more different to eachother than Poles and their Czech or Slovak neighbours. One young member of the family I stayed with in Lomza told me that Lithuanians are very bad drivers and they're generally a bit crazy (oh alright, he said pojeb*ny). My former flatmate, who is from and now lives only a few miles from the border, says that they have nice women. Typical!
osiol   
21 Jan 2009
Language / POLISH OR RUSSIAN -- MORE MODERN? [20]

I think duży metalowy ptak is just as amusing a thing to call an aeroplane as the English equivalent. I imagine there are very few languages that would actually use such a term. If there are any at all, those languages are not modern. Samolot, anyone?

Samolot for Mr. P3!
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]

many more of them

Doesn't suprise me. I mean, I don't know all that many Poles, and there may well be *adopts hushed tones* people who unknowingly or unadmittedly have Jewish ancestors. A bit like how common German(ic) surnames seemed to be amongst the Czechs I worked with last summer.
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
History / Polish Anti-semitism - origins? [186]

I can't remember what the thing is called, but there is a list of those who were noted for helping Jews in WWII by country of origin. Poland tops the list of those who put their lives at risk, even sacrificing their own lives for a greater cause that included helping Jews who suffered with the Poles amongst others in that terrible time in recent history.

To those who claim that the holocaust is a fraud (these people come from many different countries) and that it is a Jewish/Zionist conspiriacy, I ask: why would they on the one hand claim that the Poles were evil Jew-killers, yet on the other hand hold them up as an example of people who gave so much for the Jews?

We're on page 2 now. There has been no mention of 1968, something I know little about. Poland, under the USSR-dominated communist government was still home to quite a few Jews, some who worked with and within the government, others who didn't. Then at the end of the 1960s, most (am I right?) of Poland's Jews left the country. Can anyone explain what happened there? I'm sure some remained (I am aware of two or three people with Jewish roots from today's Poland, so I realise one claim that all of Poland's Jews left then).

Or will this thread continue to scrape through the sediment of the "anti-Semitic" pond?
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
History / Lusatians our neighbours. [10]

are there really such people in Europe....????

I believe that Lusatians do really exist, also known as Sorbs or Wends. Sarmatians were around a long time ago and most historians are not really sure who they were.
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
Language / Plural nouns in the accusative? [30]

What some people forget is that English grammar uses word order a lot, and although there are times in Polish where word order does take a grammatical role, expecting Poles to understand English word order in spoken Polish is a bit like using Polish word-endings in spoken English.
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

lol, look all these limeys chiming in.

and the Yanks and the pretend Aussies too. Welcome to Poland.

While in 1994, 800, 000 Tutsi Rwandans were massacred in the span of just three months.

Then look at Europe in WWII, the Soviet Union under Stalin, Pol Pot's Cambodia, the Armenian massacre, the fate of North American Indians...
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
USA, Canada / How to marry an American women? [24]

It looks like there has been an error here. It may have been a spelling mistake or a grammatical error, or possibly both.

How to Marry un-American women

Don't go to America to meet women. Go somewhere else. The less Americans the better, just in case you accidentally fall in love with an American woman. I'm not sure who the most un-American women are. Mongolians possibly. Avoid Ulaan-Baatar as there might be more than the national average number of Americans there.

How to Marry American women

It is advisable to train for the priesthood. This is not an easy undertaking as it involves devoting your whole life to God, and may involve vows of celibacy. However, once fully trained, if you're not already there, move to America, get a parish (or similar), and marriage ceremonies will be amongst your duties. There are a lot of American women living in America who wish to get married. Many require the services of a priest in order for them to get married to their partners in a good and godly manner.

How to Marry an American woman

See above. When you have already become a priest, you are pretty much "in the role" for life. Leaving the priesthood is an exception rather than the norm, and it is often frowned upon. It is worth mentioning that there are also civil marriages that do not require religious institutions, but I'm afraid I can't help you with information about how to find such a job.
osiol   
20 Jan 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Every country should have its fair share of Aleuts. That might equal one per country around the world, or perhaps larger countries could have three or fours Aleuts whilst very small countries like Andorra or Liechtenstein could have an individual Aleut between them on a time-share basis. Once the Aleut problem has been sorted out, it will be possible to allocate each nation state its fair number of Yukaghir, Chukchi and Asiatic Eskimo...
osiol   
19 Jan 2009
Life / Facebook - is it popular in Poland? [22]

Nasza klasa is originally a site where people were supposed to look for class-mates from the past. They logged on, looked for their school, their class and contacted their childhood friends. And sometimes it changed with a big community portal that has nothing to do with looking for one's class mates. But still, it's something completely different from Facebook.

I thought facebook started with a similar idea in some American university. These things tend to only be successful when they out-grow the original idea.

Facebook's Polish translation still has some grammatical kinks

There is the option of assisting with translation. Then it all depends on the quality of language understanding by those who use this option.