Love / Love my polish girlfriend alot but under pressure from family [166]

What would you then say to English citizens who don't want Poles in their country because they opnly want to see and talk to Englishmen? Maybe there are American restaurants in Poland, because there are Polish people who enjoy the odd Big Mac or two?

Talk about having your cake and eating it!

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

My god you are stupid.

For the record, I have got more in common with the Pakistanis at my local cricket club than I will ever have with you.

History / Any apologies about Sikorski's 'murder'? [95]


True, the fact that Churchill and Roosevelt didn't present a united front didn't help matters. Roosevelt (quite incorrectly) assumed that he could use his people skills to 'handle' Stalin. Part of this tactic involved the incessant belittling Churchill, which achieved little.


There fear of a negotiated peace was real. Granted it was unlikely, but few people saw the Nazi-Soviet pact coming. Roosevelt desperately wanted Soviet support in the war with Japan which was the main reason that Stalin was appeased. Stalin was furious about the Allied delay in opening a second front. When it was finally agreed, it didn't represent the kind of leverage required. Stalin played the better hand, but he definitely held the cards.


Maybe, but it's I don't see what Churchill and Roosevelt could have practically done. In reality, the Allies could do nothing to impose their will on Stalin, short of declaring war on the USSR. Operation unthinkable was just that...

History / Any apologies about Sikorski's 'murder'? [95]


Once again, I fail to see what leverage Churchill and Roosevelt had against Stalin. The Red Army had all but defeated the Nazis in Europe before The Western Allies even landed at Normandy. Stalin had Eastern Europe in his possession. Even if Eastern Poland hadn't been promised to Stalin at Tehran, it would have taken nothing short of a war with the USSR to wrestle it from him. Stalin held the cards.


True. David Irving is a joke. Nothing he says should be taken seriously as it almost totally agenda driven. Indeed, he should not even be considered a historian.

News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]


How do you define a Jew?

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Yes. If people have a natural inclination to do this (i.e. they find men as opposed to women attractive) then it is perfectly natural. Humans have been doing this since... well forever... so why is it unatural?


I'm actually a black, disabled lesbian.


As opposed to telling stories about how a man sticks his penis in womens vagina? It's simple sex education.


It's just a fundamental lack of understanding. I genuinely think people are scared of what they don't know/understand.


The Romans and the Greeks loved it a bit of it.


People who find their own sex attractive? Whether this is manifested through homesexual behaviour is a another thing. I know gay people who are married with children... they are gay, they just don't want to admit it to society.

Why give a sh1t?

News / Poland embraces new effort to fight anti-Semitism [138]

It's just that a number of people make sweeping generalisations about 'the Jews', and I always wonder who they are incorporating...

My great-gandfather was a Polish Jew (father's, fathers, father). I therefore have a "Jewish name" and "Jewish blood", but I don't consider myself Jewish in the slightest, just English/British.

One of my best friends is half-Polish Jewish (Mother's side, both his grand-parents survived Aushwitz), half Irish, but he is considers himself a Brit. He has indulged in some Jewish tradition (as much as Irish tradition), but he is not religious.

Essentially is it religious/ethnic/cultural/political?

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Nothing like stereotyping eh Pat... I agree it's shameful, I mean you rarely see this sort of depravity in the heterosexual community! Still, I guess a good old fashioned lynching is what they deserve.

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Sorry if I misunderstood, but it appeared as if you were suggesting that this is normal behaviour for the average homosexual! I was just making the point that whilst some homosexuals like to meet up in toilets or hang around Clapham Common late at night, there are also heterosexual couples who enjoy dogging, and heterosexual men who happily expose themselves to young girls in parks.

You obviously believe that sexuality and therefore acts of affection are a private thing... that you should not make outward gestures which are an indication of your sexuality. I trust that this preference is not exclusive to homosexuals?

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Sorry, I forgot that's why we have sex education!! Because without it we wouldn't know how to produce? Right? Sex education covers the emotional as well as the physical. A fair amount of it is aimed at educating people in regards to STD's... why bother with this, if it is JUST about reproduction?


Cheese makers aren't discriminated against in the same way homosexuals are. The whole point of this type of education is to teach people that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon, and not something to be feared or hated. If cheese makers were regularly discriminated against, I'm sure there would be some educational drive to help people understand that cheese makers are ordinary people.

I agree with you, it's not a reason to bash or persecute but many people still do. Thus the need for education. It's a pretty simple concept. This is not about glorifying anything.


Why don't you look the word up:


Which it is, and has been throughout history.


Yeah, because alcoholism is just like homosexuality? Jesus wept.

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


And again, this is not what I'm arguing about.


No I said educated, although I'm interested in your concept of encouragement? Is it that you think the promotion and celebration of homosexuality will encourage people to become homosexual? Do you think people can catch 'gay'? More importantly, are you worried that this might happen to yourself?

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


I only asked the question because your post suggested that homosexuality is something that can be "passed on" to people though promotion, celebration, encouragement etc.. This highlights a fundamental lack of understanding of the nature of homosexuality, as illustrated:


Are are suggesting that (lets say) a 14-year old straight boy, who is taught about the natural phenomenon of homosexuality in sex education, is suddenly going to think:

"I used to fancy that Sarah girl from my history class, but now I have an incurable urge to bugger my mate Dave"

I don't really think indoctrination is an issue.


I am referring strictly to sex education (taught at an appropriate aged). Personally I'd pay as much attention to 'celebrate gays week' as I would the following:

Adopt A Rescued Rabbit Month
AMD/Low Vision Awareness Month
American Heart Month
Bake for Family Fun Month
February is Fabulous Florida Strawberry Month
Festival of Camellias Month
From Africa to Virginia Month
International Boost Self-Esteem Month
Library Lovers Month
Marfan Syndrome Awareness Month
Marijuana Awareness Month
National African American History Month
National Bird Feeding Month
National Black History Month
National Care About Your Indoor Air Month
National Cherry Pie Month
National Condom Month Link
National Children's Dental Health Month
National Get To Know and Independent Real Estate Broker Month
National Laugh-Friendly Month
National Mend A Broken Heart Month
National Parent Leadership Month
National Pet Dental Health Month
National Senior Independence Month
National Time Management Month
National Weddings Month
Plant the Seeds of Greatness Month
Relationship Wellness Month
Return Shopping Carts to the Supermarket Month
Spunky Old Broads Month
Sweet Potato Month
Wise Health Care Consumer Month
Worldwide Renaissance of the Heart Month
Youth Leadership Month

Apparently these are all celebrated in February.

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


There lies the root of your homophobia... the fact that you are completely ignorant.


Spot on Shell. People who are comfortable with their own sexuality usually don't care. It's often the ignorant types, who believe gay can be caught or indoctrinated, that make the most noise when it comes to homosexuality.

I used to enjoy the odd trip down (C)anal (S)treet, and I more often than not had a great night. Bah bar was always a laugh.

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


I'm not sure what the problem is.

There are a number of ridiculous misconceptions about homosexuality - this thread is testament to that.

Why would any right-minded person be opposed to efforts to help rid society of these misconceptions (which often lead to hatred/bigotry/discrimination/mindless violence etc.) through education of the facts regarding homosexuality? (I'm not talking about the A-Z of anal sex, just the basic concept of homosexuality). That is unless, their own bigotry is manifested through these misconceptions. In which case, its clearly not just kids who need educating.

I guess haters will always hate, regardless of anything else. Some people get upset with the fact that some gay rights groups campaign for.... well gay rights. Do these same people feel the same about the efforts of Martin Luther King? I mean, I don't mind blacks, I just don't like it when they ram it down my throat... If my kids are taught about black history, I will withdraw them from school etc etc...

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


They (heterosexuals) believe that the use of condoms actually increases the risk of contracting aids.

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Maybe you should book yourself on to a gay awareness course then? Unless of course you're scared of....

....well you know, catching gay.

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Where has it been used as an insult? You only believe it is an insult because you are a rampant homophobe.

And a complete moron of course ;)


Just out of interest, how do you accuse someone of being black?

Life / Homosexuals in Poland / Hands off (PETITION) [797]


Only very simple people believe that homosexuality is an ideology. But then again, you think that 'being black' is an ideology so there's not much hope for you. Try looking up the word 'indoctrinate' in the dictionary:

1. to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., esp. to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.
2. to teach or inculcate.
3. to imbue with learning.

You've already admitted to knowing very little (well actually nothing) about homosexuality, so I'll give you a quick lesson:

Gay can't be caught, it isn't an ideology or a conscious choice. It is a natural state of being, a sexual preference which is determined before a child becomes sexually aware. It is therefore impossible to indoctrinate someone with "gay". Unless of course you were referring to one of the other definitions (2 or 3) which define indoctrination quite simply as education.

Now even you aren't stupid enough to think that by teaching children about black history, they could in fact become black. So why do you think that homosexuality can be pushed on someone? To learn isn't to become. It's actually the most basic of concepts, try hard and you might be able to grasp it.


Thanks for the schooling, although it would appear I have a better knowledge of the subject than you. I actually find it strange that someone who admitted only a few posts ago that they know nothing about homosexuality, feels qualified to "school" people about it.

Life / 800 thousand Polish women are victims of domestic abuse yearly [180]


Just ask Stephen Hawking...

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Dictionary - liberal - 8 entries.

1. a. - Free by birth; hence, befitting a freeman or gentleman; refined; noble; independent; free; not servile or mean; as, a liberal ancestry; a liberal spirit; liberal arts or studies.

2. a. - Bestowing in a large and noble way, as a freeman; generous; bounteous; open-handed; as, a liberal giver.

3. a. - Bestowed in a large way; hence, more than sufficient; abundant; bountiful; ample; profuse; as, a liberal gift; a liberal discharge of matter or of water.

4. a. - Not strict or rigorous; not confined or restricted to the literal sense; free; as, a liberal translation of a classic, or a liberal construction of law or of language.

5. a. - Not narrow or contracted in mind; not selfish; enlarged in spirit; catholic.

6. a. - Free to excess; regardless of law or moral restraint; licentious.

7. a. - Not bound by orthodox tenets or established forms in political or religious philosophy; independent in opinion; not conservative; friendly to great freedom in the constitution or administration of government; having tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished from monarchical or aristocratic, forms; as, liberal thinkers; liberal Christians; the Liberal party.

8. Noun - One who favors greater freedom in political or religious matters; an opponent of the established systems; a reformer; in English politics, a member of the Liberal party, so called. Cf. Whig.

Take your pick.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


Bless you gtd, sorry I mean Randal, I knew I'd get a rise. The term Liberal has a completely different meaning in the UK and US. A study of the history of the Liberal party might help you.

Anyway, I like this one:


I also like William Harcourt's definition of liberalism:


I think you're a bit of a liberal at heart really Randal ;)

UK, Ireland / no anti english comments please [48]


True, I am always puzzled by people who blame others for doing exactly what they would do in the same situation.

As for immigration, this is the United States of Europe, we are too far gone for that to change. I for one am happy, in a few years time I will be travelling to Eastern europe for a better standard of living (as per Sokrates Nostradamus like vision).

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Don't bite...

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


Because your bait is too obvious. Fishing is an art you haven't quite mastered yet. miranda is far too experienced to bite.

UK, Ireland / Why Scotland doesnt Need any Immigrants By a Scotsman [56]


So England has a larger population than the UK? Interesting.

UK, Ireland / Why Scotland doesnt Need any Immigrants By a Scotsman [56]


Well I guess that explains it then. I completely forgot that Asians in England don't count towards the population of the UK.

UK, Ireland / Why Scotland doesnt Need any Immigrants By a Scotsman [56]


Probably just over 50 million. But nowhere near 65.

UK, Ireland / Why Scotland doesnt Need any Immigrants By a Scotsman [56]


It hasn't been that low since the turn of the century (1900 that is), long before the EU.

Life / How much do you HATE POLISH PEOPLE and POLAND [1260]


Very sad indeed.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


I agree, its a fucking disgrace. This country just lets anyone in, and it's all because of the liberal leftist do-gooders who want impose multiculturalism on us. Did you know there are areas of my home town which are almost entirely Polish? This country isn't Slavic, but it might as well be renamed Great Slavain the way things are going. And this is allowed to happen by our government. I blame the British public too. Most of the ones I know hate the Poles, but they are too scared to voice this opinion outside of their own social circles. That's why everyone is voting for the BNP......

....Oh wait, they aren't.