Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality?

I don't think it's as simple as "us and them" - any given European country will be glad to have a good trading partner or colleague when it comes to persuing an internationaol political goal.


But, despite this perceived weakness, Russia has managed to maintain a politically strong position, much of this militarily. Poland should be somehow bold, yet cautious. Don't ask me how - no-one elected me or ever will!

It's no use...only worse after alcohol.
Bzibzioh is right, I should be in my psych ward right now. If they see that I'm out of bed, I'll get thrown in the hole for a week as punishment.

I hope you exagerrate there. We all have difficulties in life, and we can all be difficult bas+ards sometimes. But whatever you do, don't tell the nurse that I've got out and started posting again! But yes - alcohol is bad. Tylko jescze jedno piwo...

The problem with this statement is that Poland has tended to either be very bold, or very cautious, to the point where they, as I said, found themselves shunned from both parties. This only brought them years of blood and misery.

Russia has maintained this position, thanks to their influence on international economy. A strong military has always of the utmost importance for Russia, especially 1918 onwards. Lenin, and later Stalin, were rather paranoid, and rightly so, of being crushed by those around them. Perhaps this mentality still survives?

Confucius said stuff about ploughing a straight furrow. He was neither Russian nor Polish!

.. or English.

I always wondered about Confuzius...it's so similiar to...you know.."confuse"...

WEll...maybe it's time for me too! :)

Are you sure?
Lemme think if we can change that ;)

Kung Fu.


nor Czech, mate.

Crow would say he is a chinizised Slav...:):):)

....okay...I'm taking my helmet now definitely!

"Have no friends not your equal."

Somebody has stolen my p*ss once again. (Uhh.. ask the British)

You have some serious hangups about this. What is your xenophobic problem, matey?

Nah, God Save The Osiol. Have another drink, champ. It's just British slang is all I was saying.

Relax.

Damn! Just when I thought that beer I just finished was the last!
Na zdrowie!

When's me next holiday in Sarmatia?

stolen my p*ss once again.
It's just British slang is all I was saying.

Nah, New Zealand's the only place I've ever sank any p*ss. But either way, don't worry about Os mate, he's got this thing about getting on people's backs. Revenge for the whole Blackpool front thing probably. :)

I respect your maturity. :)
You seem so European. LOL

One could wonder who was more happy when Yugoslavia was disintegrated, people of Bosnia and Croatia or perhaps political establishment which surrounded Kohl and Clinton. I also think that they perfectly exploited stupidity of masses in the Balkans. Divide and conquer tactic in this field was ridiculously easy at the times of Russian weakness. What is still visible in the behavior of western countries in the Balkans are double standards. The EU ,which have a long time plan to build something like one European nation, is playing ethnic card in the Balkans.

Be a little more gentle.


You try to tell sth actually.

I mean completely different solutions to problems in Bosnia and Kosovo. The EU backed on this issue by the US supported the most populous ethnic group in Bosnia (their puppets), blocking aspirations of the Serbs and Croats. While in Serbia they supported small Albanian minority (again their puppets), practically offering them statehood. This clearly show that the EU is not any 'objective international organization', just side in the conflict which serve their interests in longer run.

Following their interests is a logical and natural thing I would think.
Nothing wrong with that!
...but what interests would that be in your opinion?

Playing ethnic card is a bit of Machiavellism, don't you think?


I wrote earlier, this divide and conquer in upgraded form. With the EU Constitution, they wanted to create the European Union, the new pan-European state. The transfer of competences is only in one direction, from member states to central government in Brussels. Bureaucrats in Brussels never resigned from any competences that they once managed to gain. In longer run they they want to create European nation, what is very delusional because they don't care about realities. Neither they care as far as economy is concentrated.

Nun ja, it were exactly the yugo-ethnics who couldn't stand each other since centuries and once the strong chain got lost (Tito, communist dictarship) they couldn't wait to pack their bags.

Nothing the EU invented, it was all there for centuries already.

And for your tiring rants against "devilish" EU:
Actually you could blame ALL state governments being something of a shady dictatorship as they steal all the power from the regions...just look at Germany..we have the Länder with the gov in Berlin. I wonder why they all aren't always demonstrating for secession!!!

The same in Poland...aren't they all opressing the regions??? :)


I like the idea..(and we already have a nice flag and an anthem)

Sure, some historic events created some differences. However the EU and the US just helped to create such outcome.


I'm aware of this, however if the ball moved to the higher level I must react. The EU bureaucracy is much stronger enemy than Warsaw.


I hope that your understanding of politics will develop above colors and sounds :)

I cannot recall who said that every internationalist socialist regime (like the UE) will turn national socialist in the end. So, even if I don't think that they succeed, if they would then 'Jewish bankers' and 'Gypsy beggars' (two groups that nearly for sure and as usual would try to keep their heritage) should be afraid of European nationals (or European nationalists)!

And most seem to like it (beside the usual serbian whiner here)
I haven't heard any wish from the new countries to reunite with "greater Serbia" again lately, did you?


Well..the US manages on an even higher level than the EU currently...and they do quite well...so what...


At least I keep my conspiracy paranoia in check! :)

This is different issue. While I'm sure that Serbian part of Bosnia would love to rejoin Serbia. However because they are not the puppets of the EU then they wont be offered even Kosovo scenario. These are absolutely obvious double standards that you cannot deny. Or maybe you can?


The US was created in completely different way. Slow process lead them to current status quo. (Also I don't support what Lincoln did) The EU with this speed of developments will be fascist soon, like it or not :) Unlike your suggestion I'm very calm observer, when sh*t begin for good I will simply say goodbye to the EU. Although I think that this is rather our children or even grandchildren will have to deal with consequences of current politics.


I have notice that those blinded by the EU have heavy problems when they discuss with EU-sceptics whom clearly reject nationalism. Apparently spin doctors in Brussels think that small group of people like myself will be eliminated by lack of opportunity to debate publicly.

No it's not! It just proves that most people are quite happy about how things are.
(They could have done without the serbian agresssion though..)
So,what US and EU "did" can't have been that bad...

Serbia did many despicable things and got punished (as was Germany 60 years back).
They should accept, apologize and move on to make it better.
About Kosovo, maybe you can offer a solution which DOESN'T is about ethnic cleansing and expellation of 98 percent of the population?


Of course, but in the end they made it...I don't see why we shouldn't!

Instead of saying "good bye" to EU you should help to make it better...just sitting grumpy in your corner and talking about coming armageddon, doom and gloom and what not - join the living!

I'm quite the nationalist and a german patriot, but that doesn't stop me from seeing the good and the advantages the EU brings my people! And that's what a nationalist should care for in the first place!


Well..you are here debating freely!
And I don't think the internet will ever leave us again...:)

I guess the Turks say the same about Bosnian people being happy with their statehood. Could you imagine bigger hypocrisy? :)


I guess this percent of the Serbs that were ethnically cleansed from Kosovo. But we don't see misbehavior of so called "our bastards"?


They made what? They clearly going in wrong direction, towards socialism. While starting position of the EU is already socialist. With such attitude I don't see any bright future for the people here.


There is no possibility for me to work in the public field in this system. While later I have no intention to sacrifice my life in wars provoked by socialists, neither those nationally and internationally minded. I will let others this undoubted privilege to fight for "socialism, democracy and equality". :)


How many people read this debate? TV is source of mass indoctrination. There is no chance for people with my views to be regularly invited to debate serious issues. If they would allow such people, their politician would have hell of problems to defend their positions.


Please remind me the name of this German government official who admitted in Bundestag that they already invigilate internet even if this is in opposition to German law?

....well...I'm not much interested in wars either...so...where are we going? :)

I would recommend starting with a West Slavic Union first. Then Sarmatia Europe could be a political reality as long as:

1. Russia is not in it

2. It is Democratic

I would strongly reccommed that it stay in Nato. It could be a major Nato power.

Sarmatia Europae must be neutral on current military alliances or simple can`t be established. Way to independance goes via neutrality, not via NATO. NATO is way to confrontation, alliance with anti-Slavs against other Slavs. NATO is invitation for foreigners to enslave Slavs to the maximum, its suicide.

Formation of `Sarmatia Europae` means: freedom for Slavs (and their friends) involved in unity, it means unity arround emotional idea, it is restoration of strenght and light, independance. Neutrality means taking balanced position on current military alliances and political centers. Neutrality is reality.

Pan ADMIN- i would kindly ask you to correct title of this thread

its not Sarmatia Europe but Sarmatia Europae

Thanks