Sarmatia Europe - Could it be political reality?

so do most people, but they are more.......how should I say it: realistic.

Disscussing something which may never come to fruition is a LOST CAUSE IMO.

Well...it's better than most other histories!
It wasn't Germany which led most european wars or conquered many colonies..

And for the Balkan region especially....here a short history...look how often the Germans appear:


To say from that that the Germans were the "Bane" of Serbia is...erm....quite creative, don't you think?

Actually Germans could made a case for Serbians being the "bane" of Europe...with their Princip assassination being the spark that set the powder keg Europe on fire whose aftermath led to the rise of Hitler....

Many of us live for no cause... some of us are wage slaves, food gatherers...surviving the life through...

I believe that Crow's cause may not be well directed...well explained... or well managed.... but he dreams... maybe one day it will get smoothened... oneday it will be a mature dream...maybe among his children (the little crows). And then, a realistic and peaceful and progressive Slavic Union might even be formed :)... which might add a new dimention to this world. This union might bring about more diversity, love, economic success and friendship not only in europe, among europeans....but with asians (as their are slavs there too)....and extending into Africa or America too.... Australia etc. For a good cause.

I know what I just said is silly in many ways to many.... however its what MIGHT happen....if the dream even gets realised....

When wheel was first invented, it was a rough sphere. Then it got a round disk shape.... smoothened.... got rubber .... then tyre.... then a proper road....and then....here we are. :)...

I dont encourage dream breaking :) ...however wild it be.

How about the "Lebensraum"-dream by the Nazis...would you had let them be too?


Well...Crow still denies any wrongdoings by his people...crying the victim all the time..all the massacres and ethnic cleansing just "false western" media manipulation...he is far from reconciliation as long as he doesn't even admit that Serbia has only itself to blame for their misery!

as long as he is not out of touch with reality. For me anything extreme smells like trouble.

Not that wild...

See... what I mean is that the dream will materialise if it gets directed properly...gets matured and smoothened.... managed and placed properly.

The German dream was not well directed...it became toxic and created a monster. It was not a dream...it was a journey towards a nightmare.

What I mean to say is that....the concept of a union can be a dream worth seeing....if the young of tommorow are given some guidance...on what people actually want.

To tell you the truth ... people I see around dont hate Germany. However, they dont appreciate it either. They like to talk avoiding Germany... specially the youth. But then, I emphasize...they dont hate you. Sometimes its over tuned in here... but yes, the element of avoiding is there (maybe that fuels these feelings).

People are looking for progress these days... people are looking for peace.... I see men and women in poland take interest in other cultures.... they take interest in other races....other languages....other folk stories...other economics....the wish to learn, accept, understand is so much greater and increasing. The curiosity just seems to be escalating as an equal pace as that of inventions in the modern world.

However....the feeling towards a brotherhood... a 'people' do make people think a second (out of their precious 24 hours). So...such kind of a nation....such kind of trend....makes me think that this DREAM is only to be successful with a proper persuit for it.

Hope this will clear your misunderstanding.

Yup...that's exactly what Crow's dream is! Why do you think he doesn't answer most questions about the true character of his "slavic alliance"??? Just substitute "slavic" with "aryan" and you will see what it is in truth...

You don't have to tell a German how seductive such a "dream" can be...But we know better than anybody how harsh the awakening will be, and it WILL come...no doubt about it!


To tell you the truth I don't know with which people you associate but all polls and world wide surveys say the contrary!
Germany is a well liked and respected country, especially with the youth. Maybe you should go out more? :)

because he is full of baloney, that is why.

This is no way to treat a fellow Slav.

Maybe you spotted something that indicates that...

But yes, many rough edges... many!

Its all about the direction... i think. a SLAVIC UNION.... if we isolate those two words from all other ideas and concepts.... and say that 'SLAVIC UNION' is his dream. Then we can think of it as a dream....which might have a chance to be properly and ideally come to life....adding a mark of life, peace and solutions. A step towards an even broader horizon....opening a door to an even bigger horizon. Uniting people and hearts....

I am talking about direction here.


Well I do go out alot. I am quite social enough (just, in the positive way :) ).

I mean about Poland....when I gave that phrase. Germany is not most well liked. I dont think its right to conclude there. Economy is good... people people dont consider it that highly. So many factors here... I know what I said.

Alot of factors work together on attitudes and behaviours. Attitude does not neccessarily complement behaviour and vice-versa. Many factors make actions which dont reflect conditions so accuritely.

Just try to get some answers out of Crow...:)
(And I mean REAL ones, not his usual foggy waffling)

why not. i don't see anything wrong with calling somebody on something which doesn't make sense. Blame it on the anglo saxon logic I seem to prefer:) and I am in majority on that.

dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3234639,00.html

Germany Tops Global Popularity Poll


Sorry...I couldn't let that one stay...:)

Not by those who actually have lived in Germany.

justlanded/english/Germany/Tools/Forums/Culture/germany-sucks2

It seems the romantic Slavic mindset is in decline. Soon the Crows of the world will be extinct and we shall live in fear within our own country and ancient territories. We shall lose all touch with our cultures and just be another secular agragate with no identity. Hopefully I will be pushing daisies by then too.

Crow makes some points,however he presents his case not for western audience but for slavic audience,that is why there are so many misconceptions.

you mistaking. After Germany took part in bloody dissolution of Yugoslavia, i can do whatever i want, any Serb can


what history? you have history? German history? history of Greater Germany?


thanks for mentioned this and you are right

for example- German, English or Franch positions aren`t important to me

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism thing of the past. Even then somebody had to bake bread and feed people, so they can dream with full stomachs. No, I am not romantic at all.

How about you?


Somebody would be needed to get out this concept from the sea of utopia. So... I have pretension to the throne! :)


I could not stand those populist clowns in parliament. Unless monarch would be allowed to elect whole parliament himself? :)


Not exactly, this is system projected to control everybody, Orwellian reality.


People still think about this old Germany, they are not aware of current state affairs.

"The happiest life is one of contemplation."

I see here a super democratic ideal.

Some contest should be organized, how we would call this model of democracy! Any adjectives?

Well...the majority liked and likes life in Germany...:)


You really wrestle with arguments, don't you? :)


Erm....well...LOL :):):)

The blame for Hitler sits squarely on the shoulders of Germany.

Well...he didn't came out of a vacuum!
Without WWI Hitler would had probably stayed a failed painter...and WWI...

Anyway, just a good way to show Crowie how idiotic his Feindbild is.

Something for Crow

Slavic Skies (Orthodox Power!)

Sorry Lodz!
I just had to show you..NEW YORK, September 24, 2008 - GfK Roper Public Affairs & Media, a division of GfK Custom Research North America, today announced results from the 2008 Anholt-GfK Roper Nation Brands IndexSM (NBI) report. :)

gfkamerica.com/newsroom/current_pr/index.en.html




...you really should go out more Lodz! :)

I didnt say about brand and economics and consumers and MKT or INB or HRM etc!... I wrote about something else... which perhaps you didnt understand.

I understood you very well...because you might dislike Germany you think the world has to too! You aren't the only Pole I came about here on this forum who really couldn't believe that outside your little world full of Germanophobia people around the world like, admire and respect Germany! And it isn't only about economics or consumers, the poll before was all about "positive influence in the world"...and here Germany tops too!

Sorry for you Lodz! :)

PS: It's mostly the same people who thinks the sun shines out of Polands arse...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_branding

I dont hate Germany. I have explained before my point.

I believe the sun is as much mine as it is yourse.