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Poland Betrayed in WW2


EbonyandBathory 5 | 249  
11 Mar 2008 /  #181
Poland can't forget. We won't let it. We are a nation that knows what it's like to not exist. This is a terrible burdon on a phsyche. People have moved on, but they are guarded because while Poland is free now, there have been times when her freedom has been taken from here. Poles prominently focus on the positives of Poland and being Polish, but when the country has stood as the battle ground for so many European contests there are aspects that always stay with you.
celinski 31 | 1258  
11 Mar 2008 /  #182
however just going round and round in circles helps nobody and especially yourselves.

Funny thing is Stalin and Hitler thought the same thing. In fact, Communist Poland made sure they were silent. Sorry tornado, we are free as is all of Poland to speak out. I will be the judge of what is good for me. I repeat, if it bothers you so much why do you stay. Are you Russian by chance, they were used to telling Poland's people what to do and getting there own way.
tornado2007 11 | 2270  
14 Mar 2008 /  #183
hahaha am i russian, lol, i don't think so, no chance, i leave those commy pigs to their wollow in their own mud. I'm not trying to direct Poland at all, i just see the happy poles who are young and vibrant coming over to the uk to get and education and maybe a better job and then i see some of the older generation just sitting in their houses drinking vodka and slagging of every russian, geman or whoever for what went on 'back in the day' who would you rather spend your time with, its simple.

Happy people make happy Poland, happy Poland is better for everybody don't you think??
celinski 31 | 1258  
15 Mar 2008 /  #184
happy Poland is better for everybody don't you think??

Yes I love happy people, maybe they drink to forget this dis respect. Maybe they drink because they have some kick as* vodka. LOL
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6146  
15 Mar 2008 /  #185
i leave those commy pigs to their wollow in their own mud.

Anti-Slavism. Get the busturd !!!!!11
isthatu 3 | 1164  
16 Mar 2008 /  #186
Off the top of my head, there is a fascinating book called "The Long Walk" by Slavomir Rawicz which is a memoir of a Polish calvary officer who was sent to Siberia during WW2 and how he and some others escaped. It's an absolute great read.

.....for a work of complete fiction from a seriously disturbed walter mitty esque mind.....
EbonyandBathory 5 | 249  
16 Mar 2008 /  #187
EbonyandBathory wrote:
Off the top of my head, there is a fascinating book called "The Long Walk" by Slavomir Rawicz which is a memoir of a Polish calvary officer who was sent to Siberia during WW2 and how he and some others escaped. It's an absolute great read.

.....for a work of complete fiction from a seriously disturbed walter mitty esque mind.....

It certainly is incredible, but I've never heard that it's made-up. What are you basing this on?
szkotja2007 27 | 1498  
16 Mar 2008 /  #188
There are many inconsistencies in his story.
The attached link is more interesting for the comments from readers, underneath the story.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6098218.stm
EbonyandBathory 5 | 249  
16 Mar 2008 /  #189
Interesting, szkotja2007. I hadn't heard that before. Makes you think. I'd like to believe the book, but alas, what can you believe nowadays? Next, you'll be telling me Wojtech the Soldier Bear is made up.
celinski 31 | 1258  
17 Mar 2008 /  #190
Check out "The Impossible Escape". This is in full production and will be fantastic.

Carol

It certainly is incredible

youtube.com/impossibleescape
isthatu 3 | 1164  
17 Mar 2008 /  #191
Next, you'll be telling me Wojtech the Soldier Bear is made up.

Nope,defo not,my Grandma saw him in the Zoo when she was young :)
OP matthias 3 | 429  
22 Mar 2008 /  #192
fff.org/freedom/0495b.asp

How Churchill traveled to Moscow to try to reach an agreement with Stalin into splitting southeastern Europe between Britain and Russia....
PolskaMan 2 | 147  
4 Jan 2009 /  #193
Well France did not really betray us because there is evidence that they attacked germany in 1939 but the brits forced us to set all german prisoners free becase they were still trying to make peace.
Prince 15 | 590  
5 Jan 2009 /  #194
Well I've been telling diffenert things about English and it seems that once we were like their Scots...

To be honest we did't have much choice (country beetween Hitler and Stalin). We must remeber this lesson.
polaka - | 7  
6 Jan 2009 /  #195
The worst thing about it is that the Brits are being brainwashed by their media and history books - and know nothing about what we Polish did for them during IIWW.

And then you constantly hear that we did nothing for Britain, let's help Ghurkas, cause they did, etc.
I've got nothing against Ghurkas, but it just shows that if you don't remember your own history, no-one will.
Wroclaw Boy  
6 Jan 2009 /  #196
and know nothing about what we Polish did for them during IIWW.

Perhaps you educate us all here polaka.
Harry  
6 Jan 2009 /  #197
Well France did not really betray us because there is evidence that they attacked germany in 1939 but the brits forced us to set all german prisoners free becase they were still trying to make peace.

Don't tell lies: Britain attacked Germany before France did. That is historical fact. How did Britain force Poland to set German prisoners free? Which prisoners? Taken where? Released when?

Unlike our great friends the Poles, who are unceasingly grateful for all that Britain did to help them in WWII.
VaFunkoolo 6 | 654  
6 Jan 2009 /  #198
And then you constantly hear that we did nothing for Britain, let's help Ghurkas, cause they did

Why are you comparing the Ghurkas to the Polish, you uninformed fool?
PolskaMan 2 | 147  
6 Jan 2009 /  #199
Britain attacked Germany before France did

How?
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
6 Jan 2009 /  #200
The worst thing about it is that the Brits are being brainwashed by their media and history books

Yes I agree that history books are biased, depending on who wrote them, that is all history books, including Polish ones.

know nothing about what we Polish did for them during IIWW.

PLease dont tell me I "know nothing" based on my nationality.;)

the Brits

I wonder if I should refer to Polish as "the Polaks" constantly. Where I come from "Brit " is a pejorative term. Do you mean English, Scottish or Welsh ? Each of these countries has a different education system.

I am not a "Brit" I am English. Thanks.
Frank 23 | 1183  
6 Jan 2009 /  #201
The worst thing about it is that the Brits are being brainwashed by their media and history books - and know nothing about what we Polish did for them during IIWW.
And then you constantly hear that we did nothing for Britain

Without GB.......the bravest of the brave Polsih soldiers...wouldn't have had anywhere to escape to, and indeed carry on the fight and resistance to German occupation and nihilism.

Only 2 enemies here............Germany.................and Russia................end of.
niejestemcapita 2 | 561  
6 Jan 2009 /  #202
And then you constantly hear that we did nothing for Britain, let's help Ghurkas, cause they did, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_of_Gurkhas

Please have a look here re Gurkhas,....it could help
isthatu2 4 | 2693  
7 Jan 2009 /  #203
Don't tell lies: Britain attacked Germany before France did.

Wrong,the french mounted the first and only attack into German territory in late 39 early 40,British forces had to wait another four years to get boots on the ground in the lair of the fascist beast.

The worst thing about it is that the Brits are being brainwashed by their media and history books - and know nothing about what we Polish did for them during IIWW.

Blah blah what a load of old horse s**t blah....What do yopu know,do you live in Britain? Try watch a documentry on say the BBC regarding WW2 these days(and for years now for that matter) and you get hit over the head with "Poor Poland this and poor Poland that",from recent documentries you would think only 3 countries existed east of the rhine,Germany,Poland and the USSR....maybe has something to do with half of our documentries these days being filmed on the cheap in Poland....
IronsE11 2 | 441  
7 Jan 2009 /  #204
"Poor Poland this and poor Poland that",from recent documentries you would think only 3 countries existed east of the rhine,Germany,Poland and the USSR

It was Czechoslovakia who were bent over to the greatest degree. For some reason, this isn't really discussed on this forum. Not sure why. Maybe someone could enlighten me?
isthatu2 4 | 2693  
8 Jan 2009 /  #205
Maybe someone could enlighten me?

Check the forum name.....:)
By the way,with my above Im not saying its wrong that Polands story is being told,its just it is now being told at the expense of other stories,and frankly,for someone to say British people who know their history are ignorent regarding Poland just shows that persons blinkered ignorence or more probably its the one thing that really gets on my t*ts about the Polish national charector,the tendency to self pity to the point of nausea.....
celinski 31 | 1258  
8 Jan 2009 /  #206
tendency to self pity to the point of nausea.....

I saw no self pity, I saw silence. By the way welcome back stranger, u were missed.
TrevorOfCrete 1 | 3  
8 Jan 2009 /  #207
The worst thing about it is that the Brits are being brainwashed by their media and history books - and know nothing about what we Polish did for them during IIWW.
And then you constantly hear that we did nothing for Britain, let's help Ghurkas, cause they did, etc.
I've got nothing against Ghurkas, but it just shows that if you don't remember your own history, no-one will.

Im sorry but thats just not true. Its not that were being brainwashed in history classes, its the fact that majority of the people dont take history classes to any sort of serious level. Brits are mostly oblivious to the fact that the English Crown was effectivly conquered by Scotland, The Monarch was overthrown by puritans in the most bloody civil war the world has seen, and that Churchill was a lying bastard and shouldnt be much of a national hero when you actually review his finer details, aswell as the scale of Polish involvment in the second world war. British people are not brainwashed, there just ignorant. And whats more there no more ignorant than Polish, Austrailians, Ecuadorians or (insert any nation here).

Happily more than enough remember our own history to get by, and besides who is right or wrong anyway? Thats what history on the most part is - interpretation. Its not hard for somone to say on the big picture, Poland's involvment was not that crucial in winning the war, aswell as its easy for somone to say, no, Polands involvment was pretty dam crucial.

Without GB.......the bravest of the brave Polsih soldiers...wouldn't have had anywhere to escape to

There were thousands who fought on the Eastern front. The most important and brutal front of the war in manys eyes.
ArcticPaul 38 | 233  
9 Jan 2009 /  #208
Thread attached on merging:
WW2 How did the West betray Poland?

I was educated to believe that Britain entered WW2 to try to protect Poland from Germany.
I was never taught anything about promises being broken. Unholy alliances with Stalin leaving half of Europe in the grip of a man who was, arguably, as bad as Hitler.

I WAS JUST TAUGHT THAT BRITAIN FOUGHT THE MIGHT OF NAZI GERMANY BECAUSE IT WAS THE NOBLE THING TO DO. HELPING POLAND WAS THE DECENT THING.

Educate me.
szkotja2007 27 | 1498  
9 Jan 2009 /  #209
Educate me.

In the top right of the screen there is a search facility.

I think this may have been covered before :-)
McCoy 27 | 1268  
9 Jan 2009 /  #210
polish soldiers looked absolutely fabulous on the military parade in London celebrating the end of the II WW and it was really kind of british citizens that they more willingly invated for christmass poles fighting with brits against nazists than german prisoners. Thank you Britain. you are really Great. we owe you :)

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