Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

So what...doesn't really afrect me so much. I have a good job. No need for me to compete to work in the fields or a golf course. The only really bad thing is illegals generally don't pay income taxes, but do use schools and other government services...that's a bit of a drain on the economy. We have larger issues, such as the increasing use of automation in manufacturing or growth in global trade. These have more on an impact on wages, prices and the health of the US economy.

Anyway...what was this topic about?

So fisz you would just write off those who are less fortunate them you and have their jobs taken by illegal immigrants? The land of the free is a joke! A police officer can't even ask if some one is illegal or not. They fill our prisons , clog our court systems suck off of our welfare the list goes on.Futhermore Mexicans don't become americans, they bring Mexico with them. Importing a fast breeding, permanent underclass into america

will destroy the nation. But who cars as long as well are all politically correct :)..

None of this would be happening anywhere if the western world didn't have ZOG governments.

"THE TIME HITLER CAME TO POWER IN GERMANY, IT WAS TOO LATE; THE NATIONAL SO-
CIALISTS WERE DETERMINED TO ELIMINATE THE BOLSHEVIK STATE & POLAND LAY IN THEIR PATH...OF COURSE, STALIN WHO HATED, BUT WAS ALWAYS READY TO USE 'JEWS'

FOR HIS DIRTY WORK, SAW WHAT WAS COMING; HE BOUGHT TIME FOR RUSSIAN BY CUTTING A DEAL W/HITLER & POLAND WAS PLUNGED INTO HELL...AFTER THE WAR, STALIN PUT HIS LOYAL POLISH 'JEWS' IN POWER IN POLAND & THE TORTURE CONTINUED...IT IS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE CURRENT EVENTS IN POLAND FROM U.S."

I agree STALIN was a two sided man. In one way he kissed the jews but in others secretley had them knocked off. He knew who would never be intertwined into the hebrewism of it all.

A good article sample on the topic


davidduke.com/general/the-attack-on-putin_261.html

Why won't anybody answer my question, is Waltz a slavic name or not?

Waltz is not a slavic name, it is German

Does this mean her husband is German?

tHIS IS AN EXCELLENT POST BY BABYLON. Those who critisize this post are 100 % Zionists who support the aggression of Israel. BABYLON, dont feel let down by these critics as they are themselves zionists. Continue ur work.

Jewish are people of great history until the period of Jesus Christ, but after him they embraced Judaism instead of thier own book (Torah). Unfortunately most of the zionists are running the world now with their neo-con view and they even changed thier names (the older generation)and plot a lot in order to control the countries around the globe. The zionists are the root cause of the major problems in the world. If their dominance is eliminated, the world will be a peaceful place not only for us but also for them.

The Zionists even have a plan to build a greater Israel and to rebuild the temple of solomon in the place of a moslem mosque, which is sacred to moslems around the globe. The zionists are using us (US,EU and ''allies'') to fight the moslems around the globe in the name of '' War on Terror'' (Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Well, saying that for example Kczyński twins are Jews is simply idiotic...


I've got nothing against Israel and people living there. I see rather a problem with Jews living in Europe and America, who often are commies with no respect for their host country and use the victim card so much that in fact they create antisemitism.


Aren't these rather American protestant fundamentalists... ?

You are sick ... now I m sure what do you mean by saying PO has wrong people ...

LOL ! And exept this crap what else you've got to say ?

yes, this is the kind of stuff they believe. Al Qaeda isn't the only group with some weird ideas

bibleprophesy.org/introtrumpets.htm

Ehhmmm, ok I will show my point of view.

Just beffore the II WW jews were about 9,4 % of population. It was the bigges Jews coumunity in Europe, second all over the world (in USA there were more jews)

So thats why I think Poland wasnt so bad for them, just because they choosen to live in Poland not in Germany, France or England. We werent the richest country in Europe, but they have choosen this place to live... WHY? I just think that in those times we were more tolerant than others.

Yes I think thre are antisemits in Poland (like everywhere) but even those twins who are supported by antysmits and natioanlists, aren t rasist

Kaczyski in Israel

Kaczysnki again :

even Dorn one of main faces of PiS (Kaczysnkis party) is jew convertet in to catolic (his wife is catolic and persuaded him to change religion) and he hasnt any problems with that ...

So even on the right side of our political scene there is no place for antysemits.

Our antysemits are rather easy to manipulate, and Kaczysnki just uses them as the tool. He is supported by radom maryja and Trwam, just because he has just to persuade Rydzyk to his party and Rydzyk is persuading the rest of his dumb supporters ...

Giertych who could be consdered as rasist doesnt have big chances to stay in parlament any longer.

And conections between PiS and Radio Maryja should be rather seen as the "real policy" than ally or something like that ...

It shows the origin of flustration of antysemits in Poland (we can see it in this forum)
They can only writte stupid things on internet, and in elections they go to the pools nad vote on US ;-)))))))

er,thousands of Jews have lived in England for centuries,while jews were confined to gettos and shtetls in Poland in Britain they were totaly free citizens,we even had a jewish(descended) Prime Minister in the 19th century,Benjimin Disreali, so Poland hardly has some gilded spot as the uber tolerent haven for jews some would belive. Many choose to change their surnames to English sounding ones for much the same reason many Poles of the 45 generation changed theirs,because the "locals" couldnt pronounce them,hardly the basis for some master plan of world domination is it?

The origional thread of this whole section just seemed a bit odd to me,As though J Korczak had any reason to "hide" his jewishness ,isnt he best known for going with his charges to treblinka?

Mind you,this sort of anti semitism has an almost quaint(though repugnent) air to it,its all so mid last century,Oswold mosely and silly 'tashes conjouring up global conspirecies to make up for their own shortcomings as men.

Im sure many people will find much amusement in the theory put forward by some on here that " The jews are cunningly ruling the US(world etc) for their own profit/gain" is this the same US(WORLD ETC) that the same posters imply is going to hell in a hand basket and economically failing? Kinda turns your arguments of "jews being financial experts" upside down. Surely if a secret group of people were running things theyd do it a little more efficiantly? or am I just a zionist puppet/lacky running dog/lover of untermensch?

Oliver Cromwell invited them back in 1657, over 367 years after they had been brutally evicted by Edward I in 1290.
There was a small number of Jews living secretly in England in the intervening years, particularly in later times.


I agree that most grand conspiracy theories don't add up because everything seems to be more of a mess than a well organised elite would possibly settle for.

How were they "confined" ? They simply didn't want to assimilate and live with goys.

Ehhh ot be honest concetration camps and gettos were made by GERMANS !! WE WERE UNDER OCCUPATION, they came to our country and send all jews to certain parts of cities (gettos) with jewis comunity, than started killing them. Durring this war we lost about 6 milion citizens (3 milions of them were jews, just gues the nationality of the rest) Members of my famili were killed in concentration camps too and they were Poles. Just before the war jews were free, they voted in elections, they had their representation in parlament. I think there are some reasons why jews setteld in Poland and I dont think the reason was money ...

War started in 1939, our dear German neighbours noticed that they dont have enought space in their own country, so inviaded Poland and started murdering Jews and Poles to make space for pure Germans. Created Gettos and gas chambers.

Maybe different question ... Planes in 1941 starting from occupied France to bomb London were French or German ?

You know, after the war it was so easy when western Germany become ally, and Poland was given as a gift for Stalin. To change history and start even talking about Polish dead camps, call German soldiers Nazist. And now we have what we have: Jews were killed not by Germans but by Nazists in Poland in Polish concetration camps.

And accusing our society about anty-semitism is just harming. Because we never had bigger problems with that, than other countries. And if some occupators German ('39-'45)

or comunistic regimes imposed by Moscov (45-89) did something bad for jews. You shouldnt accuse Poles because those forces did for Poles many bad things too.

I showed in my previous post that people with jews origin dont have any porblems in our country. They are on both sides in our parlament. And anty-semits/natioalists/rasist ect. are marigin.

I believe that in WWII, there were both Poles who sheltered Jews (therefore risking their own lives) and those who collaborated in the killing.

I don't know about numbers in population, but many Jews lived in ghettos so they could stick with their own community and practise their own traditions. In Russia, where Jews could live was prescribed by laws. In Britain, there were no such laws. I'm not certain as to the position of other countries, but these two cases are the two opposing ends of the spectrum.

Poland had had the largest Jewish population in Europe for a long time until the middle of the last century.

yes. like in every occupied country.

The starkest contrast being between the Jedwabne pogrom and the liberation of a camp in the Warszawa uprising.

Antisemitism in Europe began - with the restrictions laid down by the church on how Christians (ie. the entire population of Europe minus the Jews) could deal with money. The work had to be done by someone, and this laid down the basis for the Jewish 'bogeyman'.

Modern day conspiracy theorists aren't doing anything new.

It is old, sad and pathetic.

And there were Jews, who collaborated in the killing of both Jews and Goys.

You know it is hard to call getto parts of towns where jews were about 40 % of those towns population, and there were a lot of that towns (especialy in eastern Poland)

But in this meaning, gettos existed in Poland, but it was just the issue of sb choice live with their own society or no . Durring II WW Germans forced jews to live in small gettos surrounded by walls and german soldiers, it was used by them to exterminate jews.

I do not deny that.


The plot thickens. Collaboration can take many forms.
There are good people and bad people of all varieties in this world.

MAX FACTOR - hewas from LODZ

but he dint change his surname

Faktorowicz?

Ok so i will put link to jews site about holocaust

yadvashem.org/

Read chronology, which nation has the bigest amout of heros helping jews durring the war ... (Righteous)

Who created gettos (in meaning it is usualy understood acording to WW II )

Who created gas chambers ...

Where jews were retrating form Germany just before the begining of the war ('39)

Just read that before telling me something about Polish gas chambers

I'm not posting any more in this thread.

The subject of Jewry in Poland is a worthwhile subject of discussion,

but I'm bored of the antisemitic claptrap

that forms the basis of the thread (see post 1)

blah blah, I wasnt even talking about ww2,as only a dummy brings up that subject......

lukasz, you got a burr up your butt mate,I take into acount your english may not yet be fluent but no one here has posted anything about poland being responsible for nazi concentration camps,you were the one that brought all that tripe up mate,maybe thats some commen belief in some parts of the world but generally not among people who dont write in squiggly lines.

Ghetto is the term used for all areas where jews were forced/choosing to live throught europes history,not just ww2. My origional point I was trying to make is there is no such thing as a universal jew or jewish mindset. While those jewish people who came to Britain over the last 350 odd years decided to integrate more with the "local" population those in eastern europe generally choose to or were forced to live seperatly.

To be honest the case of "Polish deadh camps" is quite current. I just wanted to make it clear.

So just read that :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_death_camp

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghettos_in_occupied_Europe_1939_-_1944

ok,fine mate,just didnt like you getting the wrong end of the stick,as you did,and acuse me of being some muppet who doesnt know history.

To be frank,people who think poland was culpable for what happened to the jews in ww2 are beyond redemption/education. It doesnt take a PHD to figure out that an occupied country that ceased to exist( general govt and warthgau not exactly a free Poland) couldnt have had much say in anything carried out on its soil.

and again,I think its your english mate but I will not follow your orders to "Just read that," Ive read just about all I care to on the subject thank you, but am glad for any others who may not have they will be able to follow your links.

Take it easy I havent accuesd you about being muppet ect. What is more, when you click on the first link ;)))) You will notice that not only muppets ;) are wrong in this case, but highly educated jurnalist of Guardian, The New York Times, Der Spigel ect.


Ehmm ok my English isnt perfect, but I understand everything what you writte, and I think my opinions contribute something here.

no, of course they do Lukasz, sorry if im not being clear though:(
really, I will have a look then,thanks, though I do find my blood presure rising when I read that sort of nonsense..........yes,you are right,unfortunatly there are a few "well educated" people who appear to hold those strange views. One example I can think of is a famous film clip showing ethnic germans in ,I think Poznan, saluting the invading Germans. The "historian" claimed this showed that some Poles welcomed the nazi's and so must have been involved in the later holocaust,when in fact all it showed were germans greating german soldiers who happened to be on Polish soil.

oh and as a big ps, your english is far far better than my Polish so I didnt mean any disrespect mate :)