Polish Jews - they changed their Jewish surnames to Polish

Please cite the scientific paper where it says that Poland is economically behind because of poor education, or are you just spouting forth BS? You criticise the guy for ripping Jews off then you attack the Poles and claim they are uneducated. If Pollacks are so ignorant, what are you doing on these forums anyway? Ne?

I'm shocked and saddened to read the anti-Semitic filth posted in here.

Amazing what envy does to small minds.

It may be interesting :


nytimes.com/2007/07/12/world/europe/12krakow.html

hi I hate people who are anti semectic.
my husband,s father was from Poland his father,s original name was labja yanowitz but when he came to the United States he changed his name to louis Janowitz.j in Polish is sounding like Y.

and his father had family killed in the holocoust in Poland.
my husbands mother,s family was Russian. all jewish. his father was a kohaim the highest tribe in the jewish religion.I am not jewish but I parctice it sometimes my husband is not religious.I know that Poland did nothing to help save the jews during this dark time very few poles had ever help they were glad to see jews killed. and help the nazi,s and before Germany there was a lot of anti semitism there. I know through reading history and what my husband told me what his father said.there was the Warsaw uprising but that was fought by Polish Jews trying to defend their homeland.

I heard there are people who do not like jews in poland as of today.
I have one very good respect Pope John Paul 11 tried to save and got jews out of Poland and had jewish friends and did a lot for them.

would you care to share these references with us. What books/comics did you read these 'facts'? Could you give us titles, ISBN numbers? I would love to see the evidence to back these statements

Read sometimes some normal history, not only one sided views of anti-Polonistic American Jews.


You mean Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - a small group of Jewish teenagers decided to fight when they realized that they are going to die anyway. Warsaw Uprising was 100 times bigger and was done by Goys but who cares, better spread hate and chuvanism.

I doubt she can read without pictures, only comics.

No. I don't blame them. I know what's the popular version of Polish history in the USA.

are you people all anti semetic. no daisy I read from learning here not comics and from being married to a half pole. and greg how can you say that about only teens they were fighting for Poland.

I read from books with no pictures and school. there is no comics look it up in the holocoust sections. greg half the jews here in USA were from or their parents from Poland. no hard feeling here but read up on your history I think Poland tell another story

...hmm...Jewish names are easier to pronounce...okay, i'm left ;P

No.


In the ghetto ? Not very much, they fought for their dignity. After finally realized that they are going to die anyway, they decided to die in fight, not "taking shower".

BTW These people from the ghetto were sending letters (smuggled outside and send to America) to Jewish leader in the USA begging them to do something and they did sh*it, didn't even try to send any money. As a result some of the people in the ghetto made a list of American Jews they are going to kill If they survive the war. But what the hell, It's sure easier to hide such things and blame "damn Pollocks", who "did nothing" - like those people could dial 911 and call the police, lol !

ok no hard feelings here.to people who do not know look up int the museums.
books and go to jewish synoguages. I know of some Poles who help like the latest Pope. I know about the home army. they were trying to get rid of all the poles right after the jews did you know that.I am not jewish but I will keep defending them and keeping by their side. greg you are right people had tried to get the english and americans to help the US knew what was going on and never helped you are right that I know.but the US had to go and fight the germans it was a bad war.my husbands mother was a nurse in the army during ww2.I am not anti polanist. I feel bad becuae you guys were victims as well.but at least to Germany regrets what they had done.

true it is historical fact ...

ok Amirah Janowitz so you should watch historical truth showed by Polish Jews like Polanski or Holand ... to see how it was ... and that some people in USA created something like Polish death camps (yes americans created this crazy idea) ... and you read their books and belive in it it is your problem not our ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_death_camp

And When I see new american ideas who is bad on the world it looks just pathetic ...

lukasz I only know what I was tought here I meet holocoust survivors.
and learned here. maybe if I was in Poland I would learn differently.it was a german idea.
I know about Polanski. my favorite movie is called the Pianist polanski made.
Poland did not make the death camps no the germans did not you guys.
they put the camps there becuase they thought of poland as a dumping ground to kill.
it was NEVER Poland,s idea. but you should watch Schindlers list on part showed the jews in the trains and while going on them and and looking out the windows.

it showed Polish children making I will cutt your throught signs at them.
try meeting some holocoust survivors you will see. there were death camps in germany as well. It was not Polands fault about the jews but Hitlers.it just angers me when I hear bad stuff about jews they are people too. I hope I did not offend you.

there was no such thing as Polish death camps. they were german death camps operated by germans in Poland.I will look it up more.

glad to hear you are not antisemtic greg good for you.

I suggest everybody to read the last letter of Szmul Zygielbojm before he committed suicide. He was leader of Polish Jewry at that time and member of Polish government in exile. An important testimony.

yad-vashem.org.il/about_holocaust/documents/part2/doc154.html

Schindler list ... no comment just watch movies made by Polish jews, who really know how it was ...

Schindlers list ... ehhh, so why they didnt mentioned fact that hitler oferted USA that they can pay for jews life, transfer money by neutral countries and all Jews USA paid for would be relifed ... USA refused ... That is why Polish Jews made list of USA Jews to kill after thr war ... but it isnt glory fact in history of the strongest countries now ... and I dont think you have read something abiout it in your books ...


agree, the truth

from what i've gathered any paticular jew will not state what they are but "jewish"
its either i was born here or i was born there... never really say that they are...
german jew, polish jew, russian jew... i'm not trying to be anything controversial... but just throwing out what i have noticed... i also took a sociology class a couple in college and learned "jewish" is a race and not only a religion... but its weird how they never say what they are but jewish, i guess since the jews really dont have a motherland they feel they aren't from anywhere? i dont know and dont think i'll ever understand...

okay, reading the previous posts.... WTF! polish death camps? are you guys for real?
haha... yep blame the dumb pollocks, the only people who even think of "polish" camps are just ignorant... how just tell me how the logistics of this idea would've worked? its simple germans came and took whoever and whatever they wanted... how can you say it was only jews though? it was only about the jews? yes it was one of their priorities but read a history book, not only jews perished in that time... plain and simple if you were in their way, you went too... thats all, depending on who you talk to , more jews were lost than there ever existed, not everyone was jewish... oh and one other thing, atleast poland fought and lost, yeah the germans had the advanced technology but they went down fighting... just put yourself in those shoes, it took balls to battle on horseback against a tank coming your way... unlike france, france just pretty much invited the germans to come kill, pilage, and rape their women... and it is america and allied forces who liberated them, but they hate americans... just food for thought, sorry about all the rambling, the long post, and if i kinda got side tracked there...

Why is it dumb to talk about WWII?...while people can become obsessed with the past, thus, in turn, becoming crippled when dealing with the present & the future, it is important to get a balanced perspective on history, so that one can learn from one's mistakes and not repeat them.

Being Jewish and living in Poland,I must say that,fortunately, the prevailing attitude here is far more progressive, tolerant and intellectually honest than the majority of opinions expressed in this thread.

So majority of opinions expressed in this thread are regressive, intolerant and intelectually dieshonest... for exampel which ones ? Or maybe which aren't to make It easier.

I'm glad to hear that - here I recently learned that my family immigrated to the United States as "russian jews" but were really "polish jews" and I can say that while I don't know a lot of Poles - I would say that my family behaves and acts like the Polish Catholic families I know in general and that if this much hate exists for people that have heritage in Poland for generations then it is really sad.

This is no news that the political Jews usually masquarade themselves. It's easier to fool people when you're one of them. This not only goes for Poland but pretty much every other nation. They're like leeches and nobody likes them so they have to hide their true origin otherwise they wouldn't prevail.

No better crap could be heard in America not so long ago about Slavs and other immigrants, who weren't white Protestants.

Oh let him espouse it - He's giving us an example of his quoted words...bottom line is is good to see what kind of thoughts run through people's minds in the world. Personally, I don't find it offensive but rather entertaining and somewhere educational.

Bottom line, for the energy focused on bigotry and judgment there shows up as failure in the lives of those who do not rise to their own highest potential. Perhaps people who so long focus on how victimized they are because of the presence of Jews would be better served to start seeing what their lives would look like if they took that same enthusiam and opened a business down the street or organized a community (and I'm not talking a group of bigots) for a productive purpose.

My mother's family is Jewish, I was not raised Jewish in faith but I will say that living on the outside of the Jewish community I can see that hatred simply unites any single group of people and focuses them to a cause (whether it is the group hating or being hated). I would say in many ways that includes many of the immigrant groups that I've seen in Chicago and New York. Being that the other side of my family is black and now being able to see the inside of their belief system I see it equally disgusting how they judge and categorically dislike all that are not black and view them as their oppressors. (I was raised by a white-anglo-saxon-protestant step father whose family owned plantations - he raised me to be a bigot which sorely failed on his part)

It makes no difference if someone uses dislike for another race or culture or the entitlement of their own race or culture. Bottom, line we are all born naked, screaming and vulnerable. What we do after our countries, our families and our friends get done with us is strictly on our own volition and motivation. Living under the mask of a religion or using any gospel word as substantiation for human hatred is nothing but a slap in the face of Jesus, Buddha, Allah, or any other human label we have for God. There is not scripture that supports hatred, for the Word of God is not of hate but love. My personal opinion is that before the Second Coming, Apocalypse or whatever catharsis we shall so name it comes forth in the history of man perhaps we should take pause on how man's ability to ignorantly judgment of one human spirit another will the breaking of each man's arrogance to judge others. That includes everyone of the so called pundits he quotes above. Rising to a position of leadership and espousing less than educated words is nothing new - but it creates rallying points for those who are not strong enough of mind and belief to articulate their own words and thoughts.

Crnogorac - may you reflect on the power love as it reflects the light of God and feel that warmth instead of the fuel of hate that you so nicely assembled for all of us to read and have a better understanding of the minds of those less than enlightened beinging perpetuating ignorance in the world. And may a day come where someone who you pass judgment on comes by your way and extends a hand of friendship or support that you will be open enough to receive rather than hold on to empty passion.

Namaste :o)

it is good to know.

Actually the poster posting some of the worst stuff about Jews is joepilsudski. Ironically I assume he was named after Joseph Pilsudski who was a pre WW2 leader of Poland that apparently had a Jewish wife and was strongly opposed to anti-semitism. I doubt that he would approve of what is been written in his name in this thread

cant disagree with anything youve said( makes a change eh?) but, I had been discussing Jewish lives in Britain in the 18th/19th and early 20th century compared to those in Poland/Russian Empire at that time and was avoiding the subject of WW2 as it usually brings out anti semites and loony goy's that think the sun shines out of every jewish butt.


The same for people who arrived in the UK,they were termed "russian jews" for the simple fact they were coming from the then russian empire whether that be eastern Poland/ukraine or the baltic states or even,though doubtfull ,russia itself.

Oh and whoever it was that was using Shindlers list as historic fact? Ha bloomin har har. Where do I start with the taking that apart? A good film,but stinkingly inacurate. No mention of the fact that it was a Polish catholic who ran the pharmacie/hospital in the ghetto, no mention of the fact that Poldek pheferbergs contacts who helped him escape were Polsih catholics, no mention of the fact that kl Plasow was predominantly a camp for Polish catholic hostages who were treated just as badly,and the layout of the camp altered in the film to give Amon Goethe free vision across the camp with his hunting rifle. Stand where he was and you can see he would have been looking across the "Polish" sector of the camp......etc etc etc


Ive been wanting to say the same for an age....and he's a septic not a Pole,where is it again Joe,kentuky or Alabama?

I take the pen name Joe Pilsudski because 1) He was the bravest & best leader of Poland in the 20th Century; I do not compare myself to him, I merely use the pen-name out of admiration 2) As a child growing up in a large Polish-American community in Philadelphia, my parents were member of the Pilsudski Club, something like the American Legion, where we enjoyed many social events and I was allowed to drink pivo

occasionally.
As far as Jews go, I have and have had many Jewish friends, associates, girlfriends...the issue of ethnic origin never mattered in these relationships...I have become interested in the 'Jewish Question' because of my studies of 19th & 20th Century history...also, there is the cult/racket of Jewish victimization, which is propagated by elements of the Jewish leadership, particularly regarding events of WWII, in the US...what the Jewish intellectuals/propagandists belabor as the 'Holocaust' was actually just a small part of the mass slaughter that took place all over Europe in the 20th Century...as testimony of

many writers/historians, including Solshenytsin bear out, the Jews were both perpetrators & victims in these events...also, the US has been penetrated heavily in the

executive, legislative branches & the military by elements of the Mossad/Mossad operators...this is why we had 9-11, the war in Iraq & the never-ending 'War on Terror'...

some call this 'penetrating' element the 'neo-cons'.


No, Isthatu, I was born & raised and live in Philadelphia PA USA...and, now you betray your prejudice with your remarks about Kentucky & Alabama...have you ever visited either of these states?...Kentucky is particularly beautiful, and Alabama is nice too, although much hotter/humid...the people in both states are for the most part very kind &

intelligent, with common sense...

I have no hatred of Jews or anyone else...what I express on this thread is merely my view of current events/history...however, I do not kiss Jewish ass or Polish ass for that matter, unless it is the ass of a woman I care for.

I have nothing against the Jews, but neither did Jesus Christ, yet still they crucified Him.

I thought it was God's will that his only son die for our sins. Surely that absolves any person or group of guilt.