Because sth doesn't bring socially desirable outcomes, it doesn't make it an illness but an inconvenience, Sasha.
So you don't see Tourette's as a decease, right? :)
Homosexuality is a condition of nature. Tell me this, why do most people go to the doctor for heavy flu, acne or fever and NOT for being homosexual?
Some people go to doctor (at least they're trying to find one) for being homosexual. However I'll tell you why...
Firstly, because some interest group of people decided that it wouldn't be an illness. That's all I can tell you on that and I don't think anyone here can add smth to it. The latter is the consequence of the first: Homosexuals are convinced it's normal or if they're not convinced they can't get/don't know where to get a proper treatment.
Health has a broader ambit than you are giving it.
Sean I appreciate your play of words but it's actually me who gave to the "health" broader ambit (thanks for the new vocabulary) than you had given a message ago. I said that "poor health" might not be that at a first glance yet could lead to death and maybe not of individual but of a people.
Gays can often be flamboyant types and therefore want to show. How many people with those diseases you mentioned want to show off their Tourette's? I mean, come on! Gays feel they are showing love through exhibitionism, rightly or wrongly. Other diseases show death. Do you see now?
Sean I see you stubbornly circumlocutionizing. Those who are flamboyant probably the worst type of gays since many of them are in fact not ones, but this is their "lifestyle" which gave them certain benefits. Of course you know that there are young boys who are not gays but they sell their a$$es to old fags to earn money. Take off your pink glasses, Sean they do exist and they are creatures of this flamboyant advertisement of gay's lifestyle.
You see these part of their life just because it strikes one's eye by its rebellious nature. Whereas many homosexuals don't want that and probably suffer from the decease.
Sasha, be my guest if you want to play the hypothetical game. We could have fun with it. The facts are as the facts are. There are few gays in almost any country you choose, relative to the overall population. Some have more than others and act accordingly in terms of education and social provision.
You're right in that nothing can be said now for sure. I can't tell for ex that the growth of homosexuality (which is now allegedly related to the fact that those who had to hide now can reveal themselves) will continue in the future but unlike you I don't see any hypothetical "facts" for all of your optimistic statements either, particularly considering that significant portion of the medical society still think it's a decease.
Sean you're well-known for your might to play devil's advocate. What does prevent you now see from a different point on that problem, I wonder? You seem to turn a blind eye on all of my examples.
Which facts?
If many people were to wake up and realise that we all descended from Africa, how would they feel?
Don't they know it? How do you feel? :)
If homosexuality should be perceived as an illness, why have virtually all countries not legislated on the issue to call it as such?
"Virtually all" countries at different times gave fiat for instance to brown and red decease, the same's happening today under different name. Money rules this world not the majority of people. You know it.
I could go on. Ill people often know that there is sth wrong with them. Gay people don't feel this. Many value their health like any other and that's what makes them normal.
Ivan Petrovic from asylum thinks he's Napoleon and his roommate Boleslav Adamovic thinks he's Jozef Pilsudski...
Sean you could have started with smth real. This doesn't have legs to stand on.
Kravcovu:
Early stage Alzheimers brings stresses to nought?
Yes, sir. :) I didn't say it brought stresses of their relatives to nought. But FYI one of its signs is apathy. Thinking processes are collapsing and patient stop to worry, slowly but surely turning to a "vegetable". Yes that's a nightmare for relatives but it can technically eliminate problems with blood pressure if there had been any before the decease.
Sean:
They don't like gays, fine, that's their perogative. However, saying they are ill and need treatment is just wrong.
Unfortunately you brought these debates to a very-very low level which makes me wonder who're using your account. "We" don't like gays. Who "we"? The Russians? Me? I do not have any negative feelings about homosexual. But homosexuals are not themselves...
