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Any treatment centres for homos in Poland?


Seanus 15 | 19668  
28 Aug 2010 /  #61
Praise where praise is due :) Being open-minded in such a way helps :) It takes a brave person to go against the grain and state their views.

What kind of 'treatment' do you envisage, Pol3? Please break the process down to me as I sometimes teach vocab like rehab, detox and intervention. Weaning sb off of sth and relapse too. Would you care to explain to me how treatment for gays would work!?
Harry  
28 Aug 2010 /  #62
Yet again a few Poles bang on about their bigoted bulllshit 'opinions'. Yawn. No wonder so many people round the world have the (incorrect) opinion that Poland is a nation of fuccktarded idiotic bigots.
FlaglessPole 4 | 649  
28 Aug 2010 /  #63
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus#Human_sexual_orientation_and_the_hypothalamus

So barring the hypothalamus transplant I don't know how those clinics could 'cure' anyone. Homosexuality exist pretty much in any species down to the insect level, fulfilling some very practical and crucial roles depending on a specie.

Humans are rather complex beings and so is the role of their homosexuality - a matter and a question not often looked into due to social and religious taboos.

Assuming that all our actions, thoughts, ideas are motivated by our self-preservation instinct i.e. procreation to be more precise ( at least that's my take on Freudianism, someone please enlighten me if I got it wrong) one could go a step further and conclude that the very same actions, ideas are equally limited by the procreation. And here comes the homosexuality, devoid of the aforementioned limitations, it allows humanity to take certain trends and developments a notch further, out of the box so to speak, greatly contributing to our ongoing evolution.

Without the 'homos' we would truly be a sorry bunch. To name few: Socrates (no I don't mean our esteemed forum college here), Aristotle, Alexander The Great, Michael Angelo, Peter The Great (ha, who would have thought!), Oscar Wilde, Tchaikovsky... well the list goes on.

lambda.org/famous.htm
famousandgay.com/s.html

So they are here to stay and thank Whoever for that, btw. Seanus my deepest condolences for your red hair condition:)
In case you guys wonder I am pretty straight. I tend to bend a little in the wind, especially when there is a flag attached.

Cheers
zetigrek  
28 Aug 2010 /  #64
Yet again a few Poles bang on about their bigoted bulllshit 'opinions'. Yawn. No wonder so many people round the world have the (incorrect) opinion that Poland is a nation of fuccktarded idiotic bigots.

???

you mean me?

Now harry you've just shown your real face...
Seanus 15 | 19668  
28 Aug 2010 /  #65
Zeti, I wouldn't say so, no.

Medication time, Flapless Pole :) Back to reality.

Tell me, Pol3, why are gay bars legal?

Also, please address the gay treatment issue. How do you imagine it to be?
plk123 8 | 4129  
28 Aug 2010 /  #66
Chłopaki, ale mi tutaj słodzicie... chyba mnie przeceniacie ;)

haha.. the truth is the truth.. and no, you're maybe the most open minded of all poles from poland here. you also seem to strive to learn new things..

Having sb go against the pet line is a rarity and it's great to see it when it comes our way.

yup

Maybe I'm already a different generation?

maybe but others of "your" generation, who participate here, haven't showed your kind of open mentality at all. quite the opposite, in fact.

Praise where praise is due :) Being open-minded in such a way helps :) It takes a brave person to go against the grain and state their views.

again, agree. :)

Would you care to explain to me how treatment for gays would work!?

a lot of prayer.. a good dose of holy water.. you know, the standard stuff. ;) :D

you mean me?

why would you even think that? come on..
OP Polonius3 980 | 12277  
28 Aug 2010 /  #67
Read the article. If your Polish isn't good enough have someone translate it. I didn't write the article, only ran across it. I am wondering myself what kind of behaviour modification could be used to de-homosexualise someone who sought such treatment and how it would work in practice.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
28 Aug 2010 /  #68
Pol3, I suggest you read the article. If your Polish isn't good enough then I'll translate it for you.

And where is this 'wondering' leading you?

Aha, we'll have a whipround for Rizlas :)
zetigrek  
28 Aug 2010 /  #69
why would you even think that? come on..

I just mean that Harry will use every opportunity to slander Poles
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
28 Aug 2010 /  #70
For 1: The experts are still fighting over it what it is. I mean experts. ;-)

Not one bit of scientific proof. Plus anyone "expert" who says otherwise has most likely a hidden agenda.

You understand me in wrong way. Its the scientific research which provides that mothers hormonal abberation makes some fetus' brain parts develope in different way.

Not their sexuality.

Geeez did you folk do biology at school or did they not fit that into the school term cos they were too busy trying to rub sticks together?
plk123 8 | 4129  
28 Aug 2010 /  #71
Pol3, I suggest you read the article. If your Polish isn't good enough then I'll translate it for you.

haha.. nice. :)

I just mean that Harry will use every opportunity to slander Poles

you shouldn't feel that touchy.. you know you're right.. so, quit worrying what harry thinks; especially harry.

Plus anyone "expert" who says otherwise has most likely a hidden agenda.

fear the lord!. ;)
mafketis 37 | 10776  
28 Aug 2010 /  #72
I am wondering myself what kind of behaviour modification could be used to de-homosexualise someone who sought such treatment and how it would work in practice.

See my post on page 2
vetala - | 381  
28 Aug 2010 /  #73
Nothing against gay but the gender studies ideas are loads of bullsh1t.

That's an interesting opinion for a Polish woman. You are, of course, aware that gender pay gap in Poland is largest in Europe approaching 30%?
zetigrek  
28 Aug 2010 /  #74
I think that many homosexuals in Poland hide in monasteries and become priests.

I know many homosexuals and they just live their life
vetala - | 381  
28 Aug 2010 /  #75
I think that many homosexuals in Poland hide in monasteries and become priests.

They're not doing it in order to hide. They're doing this under a naive belief that 'God will cure' them.
szkotja2007 27 | 1498  
28 Aug 2010 /  #76
I am heterosexual, I am comfortable with that.

I do not have a problem with other peoples sexual persuasion.

Some people have a problem with homosexuality - why ?
king polkakamon - | 542  
28 Aug 2010 /  #77
I think that many homosexuals in Poland hide in monasteries and become priests.

So priests are pedos and homos?Who will save us from the Satan?
aphrodisiac 11 | 2427  
28 Aug 2010 /  #78
They're doing this under a naive belief that 'God will cure' them.

correct:)
king polkakamon - | 542  
28 Aug 2010 /  #79
They're doing this under a naive belief that 'God will cure' them.

I have the suspicion that they are doing this in order to engage in their team activities away from the public eye.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2427  
28 Aug 2010 /  #80
also correct. Hey King - doesn't Greece have many almost ancient monasteries where women are not allowed today? I remember reading an article about it. I am not suggesting anything, but Greece has a well established monastery culture.
king polkakamon - | 542  
28 Aug 2010 /  #81
doesn't Greece have many almost ancient monasteries where women are not allowed today?

Yes,in Athos.There is rumour that one woman managed to enter by dressing as a man but I don't believe it.Fact is women are not just allowed into the monasteries they cannot even set their feet on the ground of Athos(part of Chalkidiki) for the last 1500 years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Athos
aphrodisiac 11 | 2427  
28 Aug 2010 /  #82
thanks, this is probably the place I was reading about. Interesting.
McCoy 27 | 1268  
28 Aug 2010 /  #83
Fags is derogatory, what are you being like that for?

when i meet the gays i know i usually say: hello sodomites. they laugh and say some equaly nasty joke in return. like i said, only stupid people with complexes get offended.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
28 Aug 2010 /  #84
Well, it's fine that you can be tongue-in-cheek. I wondered what was moving around in your cheek all that time :) I might have thought otherwise ;)
Nathan 18 | 1349  
28 Aug 2010 /  #85
I am heterosexual, I am comfortable with that.
I do not have a problem with other peoples sexual persuasion.

I don't think sexuality is a persuasion :) Persuasion is something you believe in by the reason you applied to undersatnd it. Sexuality is not a belief or knowledge as such, it is part of your nature.
szkotja2007 27 | 1498  
28 Aug 2010 /  #86
I m just wondering why some people get offended by it - maybe its a case of "protesting too much " - maybe they are questioning their own sexuality ?
FlaglessPole 4 | 649  
28 Aug 2010 /  #87
I guess that depends how often they get 'persuaded'? ;)
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
28 Aug 2010 /  #88
I m just wondering why some people get offended by it - maybe its a case of "protesting too much " - maybe they are questioning their own sexuality ?

I hear the whole questioning their ow sexuality excuse a lot. But I don't buy it. Personaly I think its more to do with too things. 1.Being afraid of something which isnt the norm. 2. That it leaves questions unanswered in their own beliefs.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
28 Aug 2010 /  #89
Don't forget taboo. Sth may not be the norm but not be taboo at the same time.
MareGaea 29 | 2751  
28 Aug 2010 /  #90
I m just wondering why some people get offended by it - maybe its a case of "protesting too much " - maybe they are questioning their own sexuality ?

Maybe some ppl, like myself, have a lot of gay friends and they're the nicest ppl one can know. They haven't bothered anybody, but that's not the point. They are my friends and I won't let some bigot with skewed views on the topic insult them when they have done nothing that could pssbly insult them. And besides, it's a blatant insult to ppl who are "different", when it shouldn't matter at all. It's also about freedom and the rejection of anything that discriminates others.

Edit: oh, and I am most definitively not gay. I just don't care if sb else is. It really doesn't bother me.

>^..^<

M-G (but other ppl may have other reasons why they are offended)

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