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Any treatment centres for homos in Poland?


sascha 1 | 824  
31 Aug 2010 /  #151
They are just guys with a different sexual orientation, period!

OK, but do you honestly consider homosexual sex as normal? Or is it normal for you because somebody tells u so?

The gay community has pressed the psychiatry associations so that homosexuality is not considered anymore a sexual deviation but a normal variation.

I guess southern makes a point here. If u all look up the link I posted earlier in this thread u would know what he meant.

Exactly....note to all....lead your own fecking lives! Stop being so concerned with others :/

Besides ur energetic statements, do u have some arguments to offer. It's not just about saying sth. Content is a part of every post, at least should be. ;-)

There is now a large body of research evidence that indicates that being gay, lesbian or bisexual is compatible with normal mental health and social adjustment.[59] The World Health Organization's ICD-9 (1977) listed homosexuality as a mental illness; it was removed from the ICD-10, endorsed by the Forty-third World Health Assembly on May 17, 1990.[61][62] Like the DSM-II, the ICD-10 added ego-dystonic sexual orientation to the list, which refers to people who want to change their gender identities or sexual orientation because of a psychological or behavioral disorder

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
Harry  
31 Aug 2010 /  #152
OK, but do you honestly consider homosexual sex as normal?

You mean you don't like anal?!!!
MareGaea 29 | 2751  
31 Aug 2010 /  #153
I always wondered how come that the same guys who like to penetrate a girl in her arse condemn homosexuals for doing the same :)

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Amathyst 19 | 2700  
31 Aug 2010 /  #154
I always wondered how come that the same guys who like to penetrate a girl in her arse condemn homosexuals for doing the same :)

Ive said this before...but aparently its okay if it's a woman they're soddomising! :D *The big smile is because it really does make me laugh*

To go one step further, how about the fact blokes love a finger/butplug up their ar*e? Obviously they'd never tell their mates that ;0)
Matt32 4 | 83  
31 Aug 2010 /  #155
Surly there are more than one way of homosexual act, I don't understand why everyone always concentrate on the annal way. Having satisfying blissful fulfilment in any which way is the key to peaceful and happy life.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
31 Aug 2010 /  #156
Normal for them, yes but, then again, murdering is normal for psycho killers so that doesn't hold up. It's not considered normal, no. On the other hand, neither is red hair i co z tego?
sascha 1 | 824  
31 Aug 2010 /  #157
I always wondered how come that the same guys who like to penetrate a girl in her arse condemn homosexuals for doing the same :)

Because one thing is when it is done between a man and woman and the other if two men are doing it.
Anal sex in hetero relation is just a variation of sex, but again it's performed between 2 people with different gender.

Sex with the same gender is simply biological not "normal", but accepted in society and give a sh1t what they are doing.

All in total I really d not care what gay people, men or women are doin. It's their thing.

For me it's just annoying that the scientific in this discussion is put aside.

Ive said this before...but aparently its okay if it's a woman they're soddomising! :D *The big smile is because it really does make me laugh*

What are u talking about? U would like that experience? Go ahead. in normal hetero conditions it's usually a consens between the 2 partners. If not it's rape. OK?

Who is soddomising women? Are u living in the stone-ages?
Stu 12 | 515  
31 Aug 2010 /  #158
Sex with the same gender is simply biological not "normal"

Sascha, read the list of animals with homosexual tendencies on:

- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior;

- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior;

- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_displaying_homosexual_behavior.

and then try to convince me again that it is "simply biologically not normal".

That argument simply doesn't cut it.

For me it's just annoying that the scientific in this discussion is put aside

So fact of the matter is, that you are the one who puts scientific evidence aside.
sascha 1 | 824  
31 Aug 2010 /  #159
Sascha, read the list of animals with homosexual tendencies on.

Stu, nice try, but I know about that fact. I go one step further. Some animals masturbate(like apes) some don't.
Some homos masturbate, some don't. Masturbation was long considered as disease and cured with ugly methods. Now it's completely normal.

Just one example. This disease drapetomania got a diagnosis in US&A and over time vanished. Same with homosexualizm.
For whatever reason... ;-)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania

So fact of the matter is, that you are the one who puts scientific evidence aside.

En contraire. This is a debate about nature/nuture. Some things are maybe given the rest is formed by circumstances. Just u think about that.
mafketis 37 | 10776  
31 Aug 2010 /  #160
IIRC the reason that homosexuality was removed from the list of mental illnesses was primarily due to diagnostic reasons. There was no simple diagnostic in terms of maladaptive behaviors* that could be diagnosed as 'homosexual'.

Similarly homosexuality in and of itself didn't necessarily impact other areas of the person's life. That is, if you control for homosexuality**, there was no difference between homosexually and heterosexually oriented individuals in other spheres of life.

Homosexuality, in other words, didn't make it harder for individuals to find and keep jobs, engage emotionally with others or in other kinds of daily functioning. And adult homosexuality in and of itself had no adverse effect on others in the person's environment. None of this applies to those affected by Alzheimers nor Tourettes.

In other words, it was considered a mental illness only because it was defined as such (on faith?) and not due to any observable real world adverse effects (of the kinds that psychologist or psychiatrists normally deal in).

*except for failure to reproduce, which is not in and of itself synchronically maladaptive

**and negative outcomes that can be attributed directly to negative attitudes toward homosexuality
Stu 12 | 515  
31 Aug 2010 /  #161
Masturbation

It's not about masturbation and you know that. You're suddenly trying to change the subject because it better suits your argument. It's about sex between the same gender. Your attempt doesn't work with me.

I think I understood fully well what you said. You are just trying to convince me/us that homosexual tendencies are biologically abnormal. Well, it's simply not true. But you still want to ignore that. Fine by me ... live in your own little world. But don't start telling me it's against nature when it is blatently obvious that it isn't.

I bet you didn't even make an effort to browse through the articles, cause it would be way out of your comfort zone. You cannot simply deny or explain away the fact that about 130 species of birds have homosexual tendencies. And it really isn't about masturbation ... . And bonobo's aren't just bisexual simply because they want to masturbate.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
31 Aug 2010 /  #162
Two words really spring to mind: Slavic repression :)

Any treatment for those that blindly label others?
MareGaea 29 | 2751  
31 Aug 2010 /  #163
How about shock-treatment? :) I know a few Slavs that would be eligible for that :)
Seanus 15 | 19668  
31 Aug 2010 /  #164
Like ECT? Nah, we might kill them, rather ironically, through the aftershock of returning to reality that being homosexual is not a disease.
Harry  
31 Aug 2010 /  #165
Any treatment for those that blindly label others?

When it comes to the kind of people who started this thread, the best treatment is a double injection of 9.1grams of copper to the centre of the chest.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
31 Aug 2010 /  #166
With a dirty needle just to be sure? ;) ;)
convex 20 | 3928  
31 Aug 2010 /  #167
Just because it feels good doesn't make it normal or acceptable behaviour. I would hope we would have progressed a little bit since the times of Nero, or the middle ages.

Why not? As long as it doesn't hurt others, what's your problem with it?
Amathyst 19 | 2700  
31 Aug 2010 /  #168
What are u talking about? U would like that experience? Go ahead. in normal hetero conditions it's usually a consens between the 2 partners. If not it's rape. OK?

Who is soddomising women? Are u living in the stone-ages?

The act of annal penetration is generally known as soddomy...And there are plenty of men that do this and there are plenty of women that enjoy it (for some strange reason)...There are also plenty of men that quite enjoy a butplug up their bottom - these men are not gay..they just happen to like it because that's where their G spot is...Judging by your frustrated posts, we should have a wip round and buy you one you might find it rather liberating!

Nothing to do with the stone ages...I can now just imagine you and your missus doing it missioinary with the lights off with her poleyester nightdress hitched up!

When it comes to the kind of people who started this thread, the best treatment is a double injection of 9.1grams of copper to the centre of the chest.

Thats too good for him, we should tie him up naked on Canal Street in Manchester..not that any self-respecting gay man would touch him, but there are plenty of gangs of frustrated asian men who have been raping straight men in my city..maybe he'll get lucky if they happen to pass by!
Harry  
31 Aug 2010 /  #169
Who is soddomising women?

If she's up for it, I'll get stuck in there (or at least I would have done back in the days when I was single).
Sasha 2 | 1083  
31 Aug 2010 /  #170
When it comes to the kind of people who started this thread, the best treatment is a double injection of 9.1grams of copper to the centre of the chest.

Harry, yesterday I listened to your buddy Vitia Suvorov on radio "Echo Moskvi". Please when you meet him next time tell him he's "peace-door-ball". Very easy to remember for an English speaker and makes sense in Russian. This is the word that we use here to describe those who use words lightly. Same goes for you as far as I can see...

Any treatment for those that blindly label others?

That's accurately what you did.
How're we going to treat you?

I think I understood fully well what you said.

I think you did but you didn't draw right conclusion out of it. This that you used as an argument to prove homosexuality "biologically normal" proves only the fact of its existence in the animal world. No one here argues that. But that doesn't mean it's not an illness? Have you ever kept fowls? At times hens got crazy and fully take rooster's functions upon themselves. They start to crow and feather other hens. Such hens go straight to soup as they lose their natural functions.

how about the fact blokes love a finger/butplug up their ar*e?

Blokes love to kiss too. However not every bloke wants to be kissed by another.

As long as it doesn't hurt others, what's your problem with it?

There's no problem with it as long as it doesn't hurt or involve others.
convex 20 | 3928  
31 Aug 2010 /  #171
Absolutely, let them get married, adopt kids, show affection in public, serve in the military, pay taxes, watch sappy romantic comedies....
aphrodisiac 11 | 2427  
31 Aug 2010 /  #172
Have you ever kept fowls? At times hens got crazy and fully take rooster's functions upon themselves. They start to crow and feather other hens. Such hens go straight to soup as they lose their natural functions.

people are not chickens.

Nobody has mentioned the Kinsey Scale yet.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1998  
31 Aug 2010 /  #173
Sascha, nobody here is going to believe in what ever arguments you put forward, you're just wasting your time.
As of your last question to me. I've been studying/practising Psychology most my life, it's what I do after all. So no need for me to lecture people here, I think the majority of folk on the forums know that being gay isn't a mental condition neither is it a psychical illness. nuff said really.

Things might be different in Russia, but that only worries me to the fact that resources are being spent on willy nilly ideas rather than proper Psychiatric care for those who actually need it.

Judging by the level of mental health care I came across while in St.Petersburg I think you have more to worry about than whether homosexuals need treatment or not.
Stu 12 | 515  
31 Aug 2010 /  #174
But that doesn't mean it's not an illness?

So over 200 species of mammals, I didn't count the birds, 130 species of fish and a zillion species of insects are all sick ... is that what you are saying?

Yeah ... rrrrrrrright. Tell me about it ... :S
convex 20 | 3928  
31 Aug 2010 /  #175
130 species of fish and a zillion species of insects are all sick

and they need our help to fix them
king polkakamon - | 542  
31 Aug 2010 /  #176
and there are plenty of women that enjoy it (for some strange reason)...

Yes,about 30%.Recently one Polka told me how much she likes anal.

of men that quite enjoy a butplug up their bottom -

And women for some strange reason think men like that.

The point is if gayness is a paraphilia or a normal variation.
Seanus 15 | 19668  
31 Aug 2010 /  #177
Who did I label, Sasha? Sorry, I'm not with you on this one :)
sascha 1 | 824  
31 Aug 2010 /  #178
I bet you didn't even make an effort to browse through the articles, cause it would be way out of your comfort zone. You cannot simply deny or explain away the fact that about 130 species of birds have homosexual tendencies. And it really isn't about masturbation ... . And bonobo's aren't just bisexual simply because they want to masturbate.

And there are 100 ets of other species which do not have these tendencies. What kind of argument is that? However u put it. I do not mind what u do in your private life and how u see homsexualizm. For me personally it is not normal but well accepted in society(read about that topic in psychology. it helps a lot). Go on with ur life/sexual life, whatever u do. Just enjoy.

Two words really spring to mind: Slavic repression :)

What drove u to this comment? I am NOT slavic. Clear?!

Any treatment for those that blindly label others?

How about shock-treatment? :) I know a few Slavs that would be eligible for that :)

U walk on thin ice my friend...

.Judging by your frustrated posts, we should have a wip round and buy you one you might find it rather liberating!

Nothing to do with the stone ages...I can now just imagine you and your missus doing it missioinary with the lights off with her poleyester nightdress hitched up!

Me, frustrated? What the f**ck is wrong with u, u english housewife. If u project ur poor sexual life in others, pls leave me out of it.
McCoy 27 | 1268  
2 Sep 2010 /  #179
finally someone said the truth about gays aloud

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=euXQbZDwV0w
trener zolwia 1 | 939  
2 Sep 2010 /  #180
Everyone knows that gay is a form of mental illness but many refuse to admit it or they have fallen for all the pro-gay PC propaganda.

And treatments, or "cures" have shown some degree of success. But gays get offended at the mere mention of such things and attempt to silence this line of discussion. Electing instead to force others into accepting and celebrating their illness.

Once again we see Lefties putting their feelings above science...

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