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Ironside   
5 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

As for not keeping an agreement with a non-existent country, Britain certainly did with regard to the treaty it signed with Poland in August 1939.

Britain keep that part of an agreement which suited them and in he way it suited them.

Please do not lie: in 1938 there was most certainly an independent country called Ceskoslovenska republika, the second Czechoslovak republic.

Not really, that country was in a state of dismantle without fight, Polish government could hardly wait for Germans to announce the end of the Czechoslovakia.

Formalities aside in all practical matters Poland took her land back after Czechoslovakian state ceased to exists. Which was proven by thousands of Czech soldiers flocking to Poland.
Ironside   
5 Mar 2012
UK, Ireland / Is moving to UK now a good idea? - antipolish prejudice of the Brits [231]

Sure, let's go back to the days of Casimir the Great.

Who cares really ?
Especially that in fact it was Casimir Jagielonczyk.

in the period that was called "The Dark Ages".

Nope, called modern times,

Unfortunately Poland is also the country that formally kicked Polish citizens with a Hebrew background out, stole our property and so forth.

When was that ?
Even more interesting would be - why anybody should care especially for those with Hebrew background? There were Poles (without that noble background) whose property was stolen and who were kicked out of the country or murdered and so forth not that long ago!

So let's keep this one real people.

That is a good advice!
Ironside   
5 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

As always at this point, I will now ask you to go into detail as to the ways in which Britain could have aided Poland pursuant to the Anglo-Polish treaty of August 1939 but failed to do

I don't care, agreement is agreement as your are quick to point out some real or imaginary Polish fault - n'est-ce pas?

I would leave the Polish borders were they are

Just saying - we are discussing stuff in here !

Even if it's true that Lviv never was Ukrainian, it is Ukrainian since 1945

It is true ! It is Ukrainian since 1991, before that it was Soviet.

Lviv was founded in 1256 in Red Ruthenia by King Danylo Halytskyi of the Ruthenian principality of Halych-Volhynia, and named in honour of his son, Lev. Together with the rest of Red Ruthenia, Lviv was captured by the Kingdom of Poland in 1349 during the reign of Polish king Casimir III the Great.

That is BS and disinformation.

If you don't acknowledge that fact it would bring the Polish presence in that what some of you call "Recovered territories" in a dangerous position

Why would be that? What moral ground possible Germany could have to enter into such dispute? They have only themselves to blame for their eastern border.
Ironside   
5 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

No, it was agreed by Poland that that territory belonged to Czechoslovakia.

Really? Since when you are keen on agreements ie British help for Poland in 1939.?
However there were no Czechoslovakia but German territory and Protectorate. In fact as Czechoslovakia no longer exist today they should give the rest of the Cieszyn back.

But as soon as a chance came to grab what had not been Poland for 600 years,

What about Lwów then ? Never been in Ukrainian hands at all.
Ironside   
5 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

From a country with "higher moral values" I would have expected not to help to destroy a democratic neighbor state, even in tough times like in 1938.

Help ? In what way hep ? Czechoslovakia was doomed anyway, they even refused to defend themselves, Poland if anything was taking back what was stolen by the very same democratic country. In fact that plot of land has been taken from a grasping German hand!

Helping? Germany didn't need any help. They supposed to take only Sudetenland but they took all.
Ironside   
2 Mar 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

A few years ago i would have agreed with this, now I just cant believe i was ever that niave, patriotism sucks.

what isthatshite2 says is not patriotism it is miserable cuntism.

There are no accurate sources and its in the Governements interests to keep it that way.

There would be in September 2012.
Ironside   
1 Mar 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

yes

The thread topic it is BS contrived in that way to insult.
What makes OP think that Poles give a damn about what other countries think (countries do not think by the way) or that they have ramification about that?

Let put it simple countries make it legal for foreigns to work, it means that those countries want Poles - its no brainier.
Some people may have something against them foreigners, but that is a different kettle of fish. To make things happen to their liking those people should win an election and then implement changes.

ause they can 'earn' more on the dole

An honest question - how much is the dole that they can earn more than working ????
Ironside   
1 Mar 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Ahh you must be the internet warrior on this forum.

Not at all! I'm here long enough and I can sense trolls. Keep writing, I will know soon enough.

Good for you, I'm sure it makes you feel tough.

I'm tough not on the interned though.

Should I instead start asking you if your country needs America to bail it out?

No, just take back your F-15 and give us back those 4 billions American dollars.

Keep it up Europe,

Ah! You are one of those from a different dimension. Happy ramblings!
Ironside   
1 Mar 2012
Life / Miss Polonia 2012 [15]

You should have posted picture of her in here.

Some nice pictures:
Ironside   
1 Mar 2012
History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]

The parade caused political controversy in the UK

Really ? Wasn't that a few politicians trying to gain new scores in the old game?Your establishment and Intelligence were penetrated by Soviets, I wouldn't be surprised if Soviet gained information about Home Army from the British Intelligence.

Not that old lie again

What lie ? Their mucking about in given circumstances resulted in practical exclusion of Poles, their brothers in arms, from the parade and the rest non relevant.

Anyway you are missing the point in my answer to nunczka

A few weeks after the Parade, painted "Poles go home" signs appeared on walls in England. In addition, the British press took an anti-Polish tone.

Ironside   
29 Feb 2012
History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]

WOW! You're tough. But to answer your question.

Element of a "miserable cunt" was ever present in the British society, when the times are getting less easy they are thriving among simple minded and unreflective as a whole British public.

There for you:

On June 8, 1946, the Allies celebrated their World War II success with the London Victory Parade without Polish colors flying and without Polish soldiers present. Among those attending was Abyssinia, Brazil, Persia, Mexico, Nepal and... Luxembourg (?) After heaving rendered the Allies momentous service, Poles were excluded from this celebration. Although they had fought on the right side, they had lost. A few weeks after the Parade, painted "Poles go home" signs appeared on walls in England. In addition, the British press took an anti-Polish tone.

Ironside   
27 Feb 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Pity that history very clearly shows the exact opposite.

And that is only your opinion.

So Poles are morally ubermenschen?

yeah!

I think it would be difficult to justify saying that Poland as a whole is is/was/has been any more or less morally superior to anywhere else with the obvious extreme exceptions

Not that difficult !
Ironside   
27 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

What disgusts me is how not only me but my forefathers have been betrayed by the spineless, mercenary, career politicians whose first duty is to protect its citizens and secondly its currency.

Somehow you are not writing about them here but about your perceived superiority and scorn for immigrant based only on the fact that you are native to your boondocks.

I agree that British politicians are traitorous and false as they come. The point is you wouldn't be any better.
Ironside   
27 Feb 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

If you are talking about individuals I absolutely agree with you but as a nation (an independent nation )we are much, much better than other states/nations.

One can argue that is due to the fact that Poland hasn't been a power for a long time, nevertheless even when we were a power we were much better than others,

Not perfect mind you but better and that is a fact some people are unable to swallow.
Ironside   
27 Feb 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Of course I cannot force you to trust or like the Germans,

I don't trust German state, Germans are not different that other people , some bad some good.

in the form of the Teutonic Order, Frederick the Great, Bismarck and Hitler)

No doubt that they were nasty and some of them were even genocidal.

This is a little bit too black and white.

How is that ?